Ric
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I'm going to the range today and shoot my 9mm and my 45.
And I'll have fun with all of them
Glock, Springer, Para, Colt, one big happy family.
And I'll have fun with all of them
Glock, Springer, Para, Colt, one big happy family.
but I still don't get it. The 9mm. is not a bad round by any stretch, it has done well for a long time. It actually predates the .45acp, if I remember right. What I don't get is the insatiable desire of 9mm. shooters to "convert" the rest of us. You chose a decent round. I chose a decent round. You prefer yours, I like mine. Choose a good platform if you haven't already and leave me alone. I'm gonna go clean my Gubmint Model now.
Generally I have seen .45 to be up to twice more expensive than 9mm.
think the big three (9mm, 40, 45) are all excellent rounds given the extreme limitations that ALL handgun rounds have in the work of stopping a potential attacker
"11. Gestalt? I tend towards a more Zen approach."
1) Gestalt is psychology theory.........
2) Zen is a spiritual theory.................
I love to hunt rabbit and squirrel with my .22LR upper on my 1911. Close range sure, but it's a great challenge, and hunting season is FAST approaching! Yeah!
Simply put, the .45 is twice as heavy as the 9mm while being almost as fast.
3. More choices of loads than any other caliber.
Hmmm... That's hardly been my experience. I've seen just the opposite to be much, much more common. In fact, I've even seen people accused of wanting to harm their families because they chose something other than the .45ACP (i.e. something the accuser felt was less effective) for home defense. To pick just one example.What I don't get is the insatiable desire of 9mm. shooters to "convert" the rest of us.
By that logic, 32ACP is powerful but the .45ACP is not. Because there is no .32ACP +P but there is .45ACP +P.If it's 'powerful' why does it need a +P or +P+
To be a bit more accurate. If you compare the 115gr 9mm to the 230gr .45ACP, the .45ACP has almost 75% of the velocity of the 9mm while having exactly 200% of its mass. Looking at that from a slightly different point of view says that the 9mm has about 92% of the muzzle energy of the .45ACP with less than 2/3rds of the recoil of the .45.45 ACP has nearly 80% of the velocity of the 9mm while having nearly 200% of its mass.
Simply put, the .45 is twice as heavy as the 9mm while being almost as fast.
a 90 gr jhp, at 1600 fps, makes the 230 gr .45 jhp, at 850 fps, look pathetic by comparison. Paper talk is just that, talk.
Velocity99,
You have twice used the word "power" as if it is a physics term. What is the definition of "power" as you are using it?
So, what is the "power" of the 115gr 9mm and the 230gr .45ACP using this definition and the velocity numbers from your previous post?