The factors which determine THR worth are...
- Thread starter Oleg Volk
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atek3
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Sounds good to me.
real_name
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I suppose there may have been fireworks in the week or so that I was absent to warrant this thread.
I had to take a break, my backlight was out on my notebook but although I have a backup I took it as an opportunity to walk away from THR for a few days, the squabbling here over matters that are either irrelevant or simply not worthy of disagreement was distracting me.
I joined THR to learn about firearms and the craft thereof, not to be converted to a political or religious persuasion.
Or to hear about the idiocy of the British/French/any other Europeans or rest-of-worlders every time a hat drops, which at my last count was several times daily.
My final straw was having to read about alcohol and guns being a 'good mix'.
As such I welcome any efforts to clean up the site, even if in doing so I find myself swept out.
Oh, and for the love of dog PLEASE REMOVE THE SMILIES, especially the banal head hitting wall effort, they make me grimace with curmudgeoness every time they present themselves.
I had to take a break, my backlight was out on my notebook but although I have a backup I took it as an opportunity to walk away from THR for a few days, the squabbling here over matters that are either irrelevant or simply not worthy of disagreement was distracting me.
I joined THR to learn about firearms and the craft thereof, not to be converted to a political or religious persuasion.
Or to hear about the idiocy of the British/French/any other Europeans or rest-of-worlders every time a hat drops, which at my last count was several times daily.
My final straw was having to read about alcohol and guns being a 'good mix'.
As such I welcome any efforts to clean up the site, even if in doing so I find myself swept out.
Oh, and for the love of dog PLEASE REMOVE THE SMILIES, especially the banal head hitting wall effort, they make me grimace with curmudgeoness every time they present themselves.
Oleg and Staff:
I suggest you sticky this for a while. Membership needs to see this and contemplate or respond, as necessary.
I suggest you sticky this for a while. Membership needs to see this and contemplate or respond, as necessary.
I'm evidence that you can have dissenting opinions without being booted..I think the difference is in the behavior of those disagreeing. Over on APS, we have all kinds of discussions, on really controversial topics sometimes, and often some great disagreements..but everyone respects each other and the arguements are based on ideas, not people. I've always felt I learn more from people who don't think like me than I do from people who do, and from being forced to look at my own beliefs and ideas. I hope someday, THR can get (back?) to that point.
armedandsafe
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I think you are ltraveling in the proper direction, Oleg. Although I still like the "Oxygen Thief" designator. Perhaps with the handle displayed in, say, green? 
When I log on, I bring up four (4) gun-related forums. THR and TFL are strictly gun related while TFF and MC are friendly-chat among gunners. The best of both worlds, I feel.
Pops
When I log on, I bring up four (4) gun-related forums. THR and TFL are strictly gun related while TFF and MC are friendly-chat among gunners. The best of both worlds, I feel.
Pops
I think it's an excellent course of action and will support it 100% even if it means I get ditched in the process.
I enjoy contributing, but I enjoy reading even more. I think that improving the signal to noise is always a good thing and even if I were not allowed to post here, I would still use THR as an information resource.
I have seen other forums choke to death by trying to be too tolerant. 'Tis better to be cull and be healthy than to invite everyone in and drown in the crowd.
I enjoy contributing, but I enjoy reading even more. I think that improving the signal to noise is always a good thing and even if I were not allowed to post here, I would still use THR as an information resource.
I have seen other forums choke to death by trying to be too tolerant. 'Tis better to be cull and be healthy than to invite everyone in and drown in the crowd.
I am so glad that THR is going to try to get back to where it was. I was kind of tired of seeing some of the "Oxygen Thieves" make extreme personal attacks on anyone who had a difference of opinion or to post something that had nothing to do with guns, the 2nd amendment or anything else that would be beneficial here.I am SO picky about the sites that I visit on the Internet. Therefore, THR is one of the first that I go to when I log on.
I really appreciate the mods here and of course Oleg who lets us vist this site. I am looking forward to seeing the improved THR.
I really appreciate the mods here and of course Oleg who lets us vist this site. I am looking forward to seeing the improved THR.
epijunkie67
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Although I haven't had many problems with threads I've started I have seen a few unwelcomed comments in others. I fully support "thinning the herd" of people who have proven they are unable to post in a helpful nonaggressive way.
Works for me.
Works for me.
sm
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Congratulations!
Extended to changes in Staff and New Moderators.
More signal - less noise - Rich Lucibella
Extended to changes in Staff and New Moderators.
More signal - less noise - Rich Lucibella
Princecookie
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Trolls and Flamers
Oleg, in a previous post you mentioned "Trolls and Flamers". I'm somewhat new here, could you explain what Trolls and Flamers are. Thanks
Oleg, in a previous post you mentioned "Trolls and Flamers". I'm somewhat new here, could you explain what Trolls and Flamers are. Thanks
AStone
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Trolls & Flamers
This Wikipedia article is a thorough discussion about trolls, their culture and history. Here's a short quote from that article
Oleg has stepped away from his desk for a moment, so please allow me to address your query.Princecookie said:
This Wikipedia article is a thorough discussion about trolls, their culture and history. Here's a short quote from that article
Also from Wikipedia, here's a definition of flaming (which is what "flamers" do) from this essay:
Nem
Princecookie
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Thanks for the quick reply.
Preacherman
Member
The new moderators are Brian Williams, Geekwitha.45, Larry Ashcraft, Xavierbreath, and Zak Smith. Oleg will also be re-shuffling moderator assignments to give us a bit of fresh air.
Biker, I wanted to nominate Gunkid as a moderator to look after your needs, but we figured that would be cruel and unusual punishment . . . I'm not saying who for!
Biker, I wanted to nominate Gunkid as a moderator to look after your needs, but we figured that would be cruel and unusual punishment . . . I'm not saying who for!
Selfdfenz
Member
I'll admit I almost dropped out last summer but the pull of gravity is strong on THR. I'll also admit I almost never look at stickies but I'm glad I noticed this one. I happened on the quote-of-the-day thanks to this thread:
On one topic in particular that gets discussed to a considerable extent here on THR I've almost done an intellectual 180 based on many exchanges where I was often one of the contrarians and a minority contrarian at that. Living proof the quote is true, at least in my case.
The topic is unimportant. The process is.
Who is to say that some of the anti 2A trolls and bomb throwers that come to THR to cause hob are not changed by the process? We’ll never know who or how many, but some for sure. What a worthy achievement!
Best
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On one topic in particular that gets discussed to a considerable extent here on THR I've almost done an intellectual 180 based on many exchanges where I was often one of the contrarians and a minority contrarian at that. Living proof the quote is true, at least in my case.
The topic is unimportant. The process is.
Who is to say that some of the anti 2A trolls and bomb throwers that come to THR to cause hob are not changed by the process? We’ll never know who or how many, but some for sure. What a worthy achievement!
Best
S-
AStone
Member
I try not to play the +1 game, but i gotta on this one.
+1, Selfdfenz; good point, nicely said.
Process is everything.
Indeed, from the perspective of the biological sciences,
life itself is a process called metabolism.
No metabolism, no life.
No process, no forum.
Long live process.
Nem
+1, Selfdfenz; good point, nicely said.
Process is everything.
Indeed, from the perspective of the biological sciences,
life itself is a process called metabolism.
No metabolism, no life.
No process, no forum.
Long live process.
Nem
Selfdfenz
Member
Matt & Nematocyst
You're too kind but those comments just made my day!
Hope you both have an excellent weekend!
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You're too kind but those comments just made my day!
Hope you both have an excellent weekend!
S-
johnmcl
Member
On Board
Hi all,
I'm on board with the re-energizing and advancement of the THR rules of engagement.
I have to admit my interest in THR was beginning to wane through the spring. Not uniformly, but increasingly, persons were attacked rather than their ideas debated. Abstracted one level further were the blanket statements on liberals, anti-gunners, and politicians. Our 2A community gets mad when blanket and generalized charges are levelled against us, yet THR 'allowed' it to be done to others.
I don't have enough THR history to say its a return to our roots, but hooray for the change.
Now Oleg, if you're looking for further advice:
1) Continue to clamp down on the zealots. Even tongue-in-cheek I'd assert that neither THR nor I need a single more example of Glock-bashing, as an example.
2) Design a 'Research First' policy. The same questions come up again and again and again ad naseum, particularly from my limited view, in the Rifle Forum. Filtering these will enhance the vibrancy of the all forums. In particular, this repeating echo wears me out.
And of course, thanks for all your hard work and that of the Mods,
John
Hi all,
I'm on board with the re-energizing and advancement of the THR rules of engagement.
I have to admit my interest in THR was beginning to wane through the spring. Not uniformly, but increasingly, persons were attacked rather than their ideas debated. Abstracted one level further were the blanket statements on liberals, anti-gunners, and politicians. Our 2A community gets mad when blanket and generalized charges are levelled against us, yet THR 'allowed' it to be done to others.
I don't have enough THR history to say its a return to our roots, but hooray for the change.
Now Oleg, if you're looking for further advice:
1) Continue to clamp down on the zealots. Even tongue-in-cheek I'd assert that neither THR nor I need a single more example of Glock-bashing, as an example.
2) Design a 'Research First' policy. The same questions come up again and again and again ad naseum, particularly from my limited view, in the Rifle Forum. Filtering these will enhance the vibrancy of the all forums. In particular, this repeating echo wears me out.
And of course, thanks for all your hard work and that of the Mods,
John
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