Certaindeaf
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But they cry. There's a recall currently underway in Colorado and that worm actually cried while being interviewed about it.
The fallout from CO's gun control
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You don't quite understand it does impact non-residents. Some of us bring our guns to other states for shooting related sports, hunting, getting together with family and showing off the collection, so now you have to worry about breaking the law because of the feeding device you use or any other little details to keep track of. So it does affect us.
lemaymiami
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Under our system folks in each state get to decide how they want to be governed and then they get to live with the results. You can bet that the folks in the recreation businesses that feel the pinch of any boycott won't be part of the majority that elected the folks that run things. Rather than a boycott, I'd spend my time and money supporting the folks in Colorado who will be trying to set the situation right.... But that's just my opinion and I don't live there (but my only daughter does, along with her husband and their new baby). I'd say supporting the side that wants to change what's happened is a much more productive way to go about things.
627PCFan
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"Punish all of Colorado and if it happens to harm our allies so be it? "
Well....technically yes. Our allies failed at stopping the unconstitutional law from being past and were ineffective. Maybe they should have campaigned harder for people pro2 last election go-around.
Well....technically yes. Our allies failed at stopping the unconstitutional law from being past and were ineffective. Maybe they should have campaigned harder for people pro2 last election go-around.
Yea, just like yesterday the SCOTUS did and say 2 of the same sex is normal regardless of over 35 state have in there laws that marriage is between a man and a woman if this is your train of thought and would depend on them to give a sound judgement ruling hell will freeze over before that happens.
The boycott extends beyond hunting and fishing industries.
I told my son "I'm not stopping you from going there [to Denver university], if you want to go there, you make your own decisions. But you will need to pay for it yourself. I will not."
I told my son "I'm not stopping you from going there [to Denver university], if you want to go there, you make your own decisions. But you will need to pay for it yourself. I will not."
Certaindeaf
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Heh, that's excellent, Trent.
Right because the gun owners of Colorado just rolled over and gave up. Well we sure can't stop Bloomberg and his money so why even try... What a crock of horse excrement. Tell ya what, y'all keep you hard earned money, stay out of my state, and we will continue to fight while you sit on the sidelines smug in you knowledge that you money going elsewhere will cripple the politicians here.
The recall on John Morse received more signatures than the total votes cast in his last election. But hey we are happy to let Denver/ Boulder railroad us. So once we win this fight and retake our state do me a favor and continue to stay out. If you are not will to help now then you are not welcome back later.
The recall on John Morse received more signatures than the total votes cast in his last election. But hey we are happy to let Denver/ Boulder railroad us. So once we win this fight and retake our state do me a favor and continue to stay out. If you are not will to help now then you are not welcome back later.
Gotta agree with Robert. You all have no real idea of how hard the new laws were fought against, and how much folks are continuing to fight them any way we can, including using recalls, court challenges, and whatever else we think of. Don't isolate the 2A folks in Colorado just because we lost this round of the fight, there's a lot more to come and we'll need all the help we can get. And don't for one minute think that Colorado is just an isolated case of people wimping out and losing their rights - this whole anti-2A push in CO is just a test bed for the rest of the western US, and if we lose this one then the rest of you are next on the list. Count on it.
If you want more info on the recalls, check out the thread in the Activism forum. If nothing else, find out what you have to do WHEN (not IF) this happens in your state.
If you want more info on the recalls, check out the thread in the Activism forum. If nothing else, find out what you have to do WHEN (not IF) this happens in your state.
Certaindeaf
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It's how we can vote, not being able to vote there. You've heard the term.
Like it or not the Constitution sets the Supreme Court as the final decision maker. I don't like every decision they make but I do respect the role they play in our form of government. Gun owners have been doing pretty good lately at the Supreme Court.
@ Jim243: I live in Alabama. I've never visited NYC but would like to some day. Just bought a new pistol this week.
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Certaindeaf
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Do you think by Trent dropping what, $100-300,000 in tuition into that brainwashing institution is going to help "the cause"? No, that's the problem.
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Agreed on all points.
No intent to be a smart***. How can out-of-staters help? I get the idea of boycotting those who supported that crap and not boycotting those who fought and are fighting against it. I've sent some $$ to a couple of those groups, both before and after the laws were passed. What else can an out-of-stater do?
NOT giving your money to an anti-gun organization is just basic math. As Certaindeaf said we can't vote so there's not much else we can do. Why let a local government that's become tyrannical to fill their pockets with more money?
And as far as I'm concerned I know darn well that CO residents fought tooth and nail against it and I don't blame the ones who tried one bit.
If you have another suggestion (aside from giving tax revenue to a corrupt organization) please share, because we still want to support the People if there is a way to do so.
larryh1108
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Boycotts like this and against other states like CT and NY are showing the other states that these laws will come at a price. It will cost their states money, which is all they care about. Right now, PTR Industries has agreed to move to SC and Stag Arms is considering it as we speak. They are moving or considering moving to protest the laws forced upon us. They don't have to close down but move and pay taxes to states who want their business. Why give the local govt tax money that they turn around and use against us? That is just silly. Here's some money to buy a hammer so you can hit us on the head with it. Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, tell us you don't want us back. Fine. We can't vote with our votes but we can with our money. It's all about getting back the rights stolen from you, not about punishing the gun owners of CO or CT but if the end result is a Suprem Court decision against these types of gun control, then we all win.
Our non-resident voices are being heard by other lawmakers in other states and the Supreme Court. We're fighting to get your rights back and you tell us to stay away. That's how you thank us? We support your cause and you spit on us. Very well, then, enjoy your state and fight it alone. You've done great so far, eh?
Me? I've been inviting everyone who listens to cease buying any CT related firearm or accessory. Shut the government down and force a new regime who will listen to the people and restore the rights stolen from us. Yes, money is the ONLY THING big government cares about. Hit them where it hurts and it is us who spend the money. There are plenty of states who want our money and who respect our rights.
Yeah, tell us you don't want us back. Fine. We can't vote with our votes but we can with our money. It's all about getting back the rights stolen from you, not about punishing the gun owners of CO or CT but if the end result is a Suprem Court decision against these types of gun control, then we all win.
Our non-resident voices are being heard by other lawmakers in other states and the Supreme Court. We're fighting to get your rights back and you tell us to stay away. That's how you thank us? We support your cause and you spit on us. Very well, then, enjoy your state and fight it alone. You've done great so far, eh?
Me? I've been inviting everyone who listens to cease buying any CT related firearm or accessory. Shut the government down and force a new regime who will listen to the people and restore the rights stolen from us. Yes, money is the ONLY THING big government cares about. Hit them where it hurts and it is us who spend the money. There are plenty of states who want our money and who respect our rights.
You are right, you can't vote here but you can donate to one of the many groups fighting against this. The NRA is helping bankroll to recall fight and there are a number of others that coulduse the money and put it to could use.
Sorry for the outburst guys but I get damn tired of folks just assuming that we just gave up when nothing could be further from the truth. To those who are boycotting the state please be sure to send the governor and others a letter telling them why.
Sorry for the outburst guys but I get damn tired of folks just assuming that we just gave up when nothing could be further from the truth. To those who are boycotting the state please be sure to send the governor and others a letter telling them why.
That's a good point. I sent a letter to the Governor of CO back when they were considering gun control that I would never set foot there or spend a dime there if they violated the People's Constitutional Rights but I think another round of e-mails/letters/phone calls is in order.
Certaindeaf
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We can all make our footprint felt. Bottom line, we are all in this together. Giving the 800lb gorilla a banana is probably a good thing.
My son is a free thinker. Too much so, sometimes.
But there are skills to be learned.
He scores high on standardized tests, both in his school (top), as well as against the nation as a whole. He'll have his pick of universities. The sky is the limit.
Just not in Colorado, Massachusetts, or any other anti-gun state.
He's OK with that. He likes his guns, too.
As I posted up in the thread about the mag ban (that was running right before it went through), I have sent the Governor a letter, posted feedback on his website, *AND* sent him a torn up Denver University application in the mail.
Don't know how much more blunt I can get to him.
JustinJ
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It's actually boycotting both. It's also much easier to support a boycott when it's not your livelihood being hurt or destroyed. Where were the calls to boycott all American businesses when the AWB was passed at the federal level?
Certaindeaf
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If I gotta roll through there, I'll roll through there.. without stopping. Unless I do me a little guerilla camping and cook me up some fried taters and onions like I like.
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