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Hard to take on an empty stomach, but we do have to monitor what the anti-gun faction is doing.
Of course ,I don't think they really believe this vomit.It's all about control.
As Standing Wolf likes to say "Stalin would understand".
http://www.gunguys.com/?p=3070
New Jersey Assembly Passes One Handgun A Month Legislation In Major Defeat for Gun Lobby
Posted On 24th June 2008 @ In Legislation, New Jersey, Illegal Guns, Gun Trafficking
(We are pleased to post the following press release from our Freedom States Alliance affiliate, Ceasefire NJ).
PRESS RELEASE
For Immediate Release
Contact: Bryan Miller (856) 371-3038
June 23, 2008
Ceasefire NJ Applauds Assembly’s Bipartisan Passage of Bill Intended to Cut Into Illegal Handgun Trafficking -- Legislation Now Moves to State Senate
Trenton: The New Jersey Assembly, in a bipartisan vote, passed A-339, commonly known as One Handgun A Month, a bill intended to dramatically diminish the illegal intrastate trafficking of handguns by limiting buyers to the purchase of no more than a single handgun in any thirty-day period. A-339 limits only handgun purchases and has no effect on purchases of rifles or shotguns. It also allows the law-abiding to purchase up to 13 handguns per year, hardly a burden.
Bryan Miller, Executive Director of Ceasefire NJ, the state’s leading organization devoted to reducing gun violence, said: “The Assembly took a strong step today toward making it more difficult for criminals, violent teens, the underaged and the emotionally disturbed to obtain handguns on the illegal market. A-339, is a critical measure intended to severely undermine the existing intrastate illegal trade in handguns, without burdening law-abiding handgun owners.”
“While most guns recovered from crime in NJ were originally purchased in other states and trafficked here, due to our state's relatively strong gun laws, there exists an active intrastate illegal trafficking business that puts weapons in the hands of those who cannot acquire them legally,” continued Miller. “These are the guns that are used in crime. These are the guns used to threaten and wound and maim and kill. Public safety demands that barriers, like A-339, be put up to the illegal and menacing trade in these weapons.”
According to the latest New Jersey statewide data published by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), for all of 2007, guns originally purchased in-state accounted for about 28% of crime guns recovered by law enforcement in New Jersey.
([1] See page 6 of this ATF report on firearms traced to crime scenes in New Jersey). This is an increase over 2006.
Miller continued: “Since the vast bulk of gun crimes are committed with illegal guns, because prohibited possessors cannot obtain handguns legally, as much as a quarter or more of crime guns recovered in our state were originally purchased legally at NJ gun dealers and then passed through the developed illegal distribution (trafficking) system to reach prohibited possessors who then used them in crime.”
“Handgun traffickers use stand-ins, called ‘straw purchasers’, to make their bulk buys at gun stores. Like any business, profit coming to gun traffickers depends upon volume sales. An illegal handgun trafficker must buy and sell multiple units (illegal handguns) in order to stay in business. By limiting purchasers to no more than a single handgun per month, we can drastically increase the risk and cost of trafficking, making it unprofitable and dangerous and, by so doing, diminish the number of handguns flowing from New Jersey gun dealers into the criminal market,” said Miller.
“The safety of New Jersey’s homes, neighborhoods and communities cannot tolerate the continued existence of illegal handgun trafficking. Today’s action is a step forward,” said Miller
Commonsense is here:
http://blog.nj.com/njv_scott_bach/2008/06/gun_rationing_bill_a339_target.html
Gun Rationing Bill A339 Targets Victims, Interferes With Law Enforcement
Posted by Scott L. Bach, Esq. June 22, 2008 7:01PM
A New Jersey Court recently pronounced: "There is no rational relationship between restricting the number of guns that a licensed gun dealer and a licensed gun owner can transact per month and the frequency of illegal gun possession and crime."
In so holding, the Court voided a local ordinance that rationed firearms specifically to law abiding citizens pre-certified by the State as having no criminal or mental health record after passing a 13-point background investigation.
Trying to reduce gun crime by rationing firearms to law abiding citizens is a little like trying to reduce stabbings by rationing steak knives to restaurant goers, which is why the Court found the ordinance to be irrational. The criminal misuse of any lawful product is not a function of the number of units sold to honest citizens; it's a function of how effectively society deals with those who misuse them
Despite judicial recognition of the fallacy of gun rationing, gun ban extremist group CeaseFire NJ, embarrassed by its loss at the local level, is now pushing for passage of statewide gun rationing in the form of Assembly Bill A339, misleadingly citing statistics to buoy their latest whopper -- that handguns bought by law abiding citizens from New Jersey licensed dealers are significantly involved in crime and illegal trafficking.
Obtaining a permit to purchase a handgun in New Jersey is a lengthy, intrusive, expensive and complicated process. The absurd notion that criminals voluntarily subject themselves to police fingerprinting, invasive background checks, licensing fees, and months of delays, only to then turn around and illegally sell the guns registered to them on the street, strains reason and credibility.
Yet that's precisely the fairy tale that CeaseFire and its gun grabbing director Bryan Miller are peddling to the legislature on A339, deceptively citing BATFE gun tracing statistics to "prove" that large quantities of legally purchased guns are used in crime. What they conveniently forget to mention is that a large percentage of the traced guns have nothing whatsoever to do with criminal activity, but they are given the label "crime gun" nevertheless, because of a BATFE database requirement that all traced firearms must first be given a descriptive code before they can be entered into the system, and the only available codes happen to carry the designation "crime" in their name, regardless of whether the traced firearms were actually involved in crime.
The so called "crime guns" misleadingly cited by CeaseFire include firearms recovered after house fires, floods, and other natural disasters, firearms recovered from gun buy-back programs, firearms surrendered by the spouses of deceased gun owners, firearms identified during routine inspections of licensed dealer books and records, firearms seized by court order, and lost or stolen firearms that are later recovered, all of which have to be booked as "crime guns" before they can be traced.
The last time I checked, a gun recovered after a house fire is not a crime gun, and its listing in a BATFE statistic proves nothing except that it was the subject of a trace. The fact that it was assigned a "crime code" in order to initiate a trace does not mean it was involved in crime, except to extremists like CeaseFire and Miller, who need to stoop to petty deception and misdirection to trick public officials into supporting their agenda.
Similarly misleading is CeaseFire's suggestion that A339 would disrupt illegal gun trafficking. Rationing guns to law abiding citizens would not only fail to impact illegal gun trafficking (already a felony for which no new laws are needed), but it would actually interfere with law enforcement monitoring of bulk gun sales by thwarting the reporting of multiple handgun purchases to authorities currently mandated by federal law. In what universe does a scheme like that do anything to reduce gun trafficking?
Gun rationing was passed several years ago in South Carolina but was subsequently repealed when BATFE statistics showed that illegal trafficking was not impacted. Gun rationing was similarly shown to be ineffective in Virginia, where it had the effect of disarming victims rather than the criminals it purported to restrict. It is as unsound in theory as it has been in practice in the few states that have been bamboozled into passing it.
New Jersey's version of gun rationing, A339, is particularly offensive to honest gun owners, who already submit to months of invasive government scrutiny before being certified by the State as "acceptable" to own firearms. A339 goes even further, essentially telling them that they are the ones responsible for gun crime, and that the solution, rather than aggressive prosecution of criminals, is to further restrict their rights. Only in New Jersey...
Of course ,I don't think they really believe this vomit.It's all about control.
As Standing Wolf likes to say "Stalin would understand".
http://www.gunguys.com/?p=3070
New Jersey Assembly Passes One Handgun A Month Legislation In Major Defeat for Gun Lobby
Posted On 24th June 2008 @ In Legislation, New Jersey, Illegal Guns, Gun Trafficking
(We are pleased to post the following press release from our Freedom States Alliance affiliate, Ceasefire NJ).
PRESS RELEASE
For Immediate Release
Contact: Bryan Miller (856) 371-3038
June 23, 2008
Ceasefire NJ Applauds Assembly’s Bipartisan Passage of Bill Intended to Cut Into Illegal Handgun Trafficking -- Legislation Now Moves to State Senate
Trenton: The New Jersey Assembly, in a bipartisan vote, passed A-339, commonly known as One Handgun A Month, a bill intended to dramatically diminish the illegal intrastate trafficking of handguns by limiting buyers to the purchase of no more than a single handgun in any thirty-day period. A-339 limits only handgun purchases and has no effect on purchases of rifles or shotguns. It also allows the law-abiding to purchase up to 13 handguns per year, hardly a burden.
Bryan Miller, Executive Director of Ceasefire NJ, the state’s leading organization devoted to reducing gun violence, said: “The Assembly took a strong step today toward making it more difficult for criminals, violent teens, the underaged and the emotionally disturbed to obtain handguns on the illegal market. A-339, is a critical measure intended to severely undermine the existing intrastate illegal trade in handguns, without burdening law-abiding handgun owners.”
“While most guns recovered from crime in NJ were originally purchased in other states and trafficked here, due to our state's relatively strong gun laws, there exists an active intrastate illegal trafficking business that puts weapons in the hands of those who cannot acquire them legally,” continued Miller. “These are the guns that are used in crime. These are the guns used to threaten and wound and maim and kill. Public safety demands that barriers, like A-339, be put up to the illegal and menacing trade in these weapons.”
According to the latest New Jersey statewide data published by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), for all of 2007, guns originally purchased in-state accounted for about 28% of crime guns recovered by law enforcement in New Jersey.
([1] See page 6 of this ATF report on firearms traced to crime scenes in New Jersey). This is an increase over 2006.
Miller continued: “Since the vast bulk of gun crimes are committed with illegal guns, because prohibited possessors cannot obtain handguns legally, as much as a quarter or more of crime guns recovered in our state were originally purchased legally at NJ gun dealers and then passed through the developed illegal distribution (trafficking) system to reach prohibited possessors who then used them in crime.”
“Handgun traffickers use stand-ins, called ‘straw purchasers’, to make their bulk buys at gun stores. Like any business, profit coming to gun traffickers depends upon volume sales. An illegal handgun trafficker must buy and sell multiple units (illegal handguns) in order to stay in business. By limiting purchasers to no more than a single handgun per month, we can drastically increase the risk and cost of trafficking, making it unprofitable and dangerous and, by so doing, diminish the number of handguns flowing from New Jersey gun dealers into the criminal market,” said Miller.
“The safety of New Jersey’s homes, neighborhoods and communities cannot tolerate the continued existence of illegal handgun trafficking. Today’s action is a step forward,” said Miller
Commonsense is here:
http://blog.nj.com/njv_scott_bach/2008/06/gun_rationing_bill_a339_target.html
Gun Rationing Bill A339 Targets Victims, Interferes With Law Enforcement
Posted by Scott L. Bach, Esq. June 22, 2008 7:01PM
A New Jersey Court recently pronounced: "There is no rational relationship between restricting the number of guns that a licensed gun dealer and a licensed gun owner can transact per month and the frequency of illegal gun possession and crime."
In so holding, the Court voided a local ordinance that rationed firearms specifically to law abiding citizens pre-certified by the State as having no criminal or mental health record after passing a 13-point background investigation.
Trying to reduce gun crime by rationing firearms to law abiding citizens is a little like trying to reduce stabbings by rationing steak knives to restaurant goers, which is why the Court found the ordinance to be irrational. The criminal misuse of any lawful product is not a function of the number of units sold to honest citizens; it's a function of how effectively society deals with those who misuse them
Despite judicial recognition of the fallacy of gun rationing, gun ban extremist group CeaseFire NJ, embarrassed by its loss at the local level, is now pushing for passage of statewide gun rationing in the form of Assembly Bill A339, misleadingly citing statistics to buoy their latest whopper -- that handguns bought by law abiding citizens from New Jersey licensed dealers are significantly involved in crime and illegal trafficking.
Obtaining a permit to purchase a handgun in New Jersey is a lengthy, intrusive, expensive and complicated process. The absurd notion that criminals voluntarily subject themselves to police fingerprinting, invasive background checks, licensing fees, and months of delays, only to then turn around and illegally sell the guns registered to them on the street, strains reason and credibility.
Yet that's precisely the fairy tale that CeaseFire and its gun grabbing director Bryan Miller are peddling to the legislature on A339, deceptively citing BATFE gun tracing statistics to "prove" that large quantities of legally purchased guns are used in crime. What they conveniently forget to mention is that a large percentage of the traced guns have nothing whatsoever to do with criminal activity, but they are given the label "crime gun" nevertheless, because of a BATFE database requirement that all traced firearms must first be given a descriptive code before they can be entered into the system, and the only available codes happen to carry the designation "crime" in their name, regardless of whether the traced firearms were actually involved in crime.
The so called "crime guns" misleadingly cited by CeaseFire include firearms recovered after house fires, floods, and other natural disasters, firearms recovered from gun buy-back programs, firearms surrendered by the spouses of deceased gun owners, firearms identified during routine inspections of licensed dealer books and records, firearms seized by court order, and lost or stolen firearms that are later recovered, all of which have to be booked as "crime guns" before they can be traced.
The last time I checked, a gun recovered after a house fire is not a crime gun, and its listing in a BATFE statistic proves nothing except that it was the subject of a trace. The fact that it was assigned a "crime code" in order to initiate a trace does not mean it was involved in crime, except to extremists like CeaseFire and Miller, who need to stoop to petty deception and misdirection to trick public officials into supporting their agenda.
Similarly misleading is CeaseFire's suggestion that A339 would disrupt illegal gun trafficking. Rationing guns to law abiding citizens would not only fail to impact illegal gun trafficking (already a felony for which no new laws are needed), but it would actually interfere with law enforcement monitoring of bulk gun sales by thwarting the reporting of multiple handgun purchases to authorities currently mandated by federal law. In what universe does a scheme like that do anything to reduce gun trafficking?
Gun rationing was passed several years ago in South Carolina but was subsequently repealed when BATFE statistics showed that illegal trafficking was not impacted. Gun rationing was similarly shown to be ineffective in Virginia, where it had the effect of disarming victims rather than the criminals it purported to restrict. It is as unsound in theory as it has been in practice in the few states that have been bamboozled into passing it.
New Jersey's version of gun rationing, A339, is particularly offensive to honest gun owners, who already submit to months of invasive government scrutiny before being certified by the State as "acceptable" to own firearms. A339 goes even further, essentially telling them that they are the ones responsible for gun crime, and that the solution, rather than aggressive prosecution of criminals, is to further restrict their rights. Only in New Jersey...
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