NJ disease tries to spread

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For those who say "Who cares what NJ does?".......THIS is why :

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-a1_3gun.6039913sep13,0,3566422.story

http://wfmz.com/view/?id=149869


New Jersey targets Pennsylvania gun sales
Many firearms used in Garden State crimes came from other side of river. Prosecutors to meet.

By Joe McDonald | Of The Morning Call
September 13, 2007


When detectives trace the guns used in crimes in New Jersey, the trail often leads across the Delaware River into Pennsylvania.

Of guns brought to New Jersey that turn up at crime scenes, far more are purchased in Pennsylvania than in any other state, according to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

And a group of New Jersey prosecutors who will meet today near the Free Bridge linking Easton and Phillipsburg wants to stop the flow across the border.
 
NY blames VA, NJ blames PA. They aren't focusing on the real problem: THEIR criminals :)
 
I always found this to be so funny when restrictive areas notice that most of the guns used in crime come from other areas. Well duh! How many guns were sold in NYC last year? If you only sold 2 guns in your town and there were 10 murders with guns, is it really a surprise.
Pennsylvania needs to look New Jersey right in the eye and say "If we have too many guns, then why don't we have the crime problem you have?"
 
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We'd like Pennsylvania to adopt the more stringent process in place for gun buyers in New Jersey, where there is a two-week waiting period that includes a ''very thorough'' background check by state and local police. Anyone who lies on the application form to buy a gun faces arrest, Miller said.
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Umm....they do the NICs amd PICs check...if you lie you wont get a gun, if you have a criminal record you wont get a gun. NJ doesnt do any more of a background check than PA, they just make you do more paperwork and are more subjective, not objective.


Oh and for the record, most of us wish people from NJ and NY would stay out of PA, period. We dont want them here at all, let alone to buy guns.
 
Oh and for the record, most of us wish people from NJ and NY would stay out of PA, period. We dont want them here at all, let alone to buy guns.
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If you live in NJ, you can't buy guns in PA, pal. And until you people learn what the left lane is for, you can just stay the hell out of Jersey. We'll keep the shore, and you can keep all those seedy Pocono motels, and Philadelphia.:fire:
 
hmm, maybe you shouldn't assume all ny'ers are like people from nyc, and I won't assume that since you're from PA, you must be like those gun grabbers in Philly...

I'm a NYer, and I have a PA pistol permit, and head down every so often to go to the Cabelas down there. I doubt you'd find too many more pro 2nd amendment people in PA.
 
We'd like Pennsylvania to adopt the more stringent process in place for gun buyers in New Jersey, where there is a two-week waiting period that includes a ''very thorough'' background check by state and local police. Anyone who lies on the application form to buy a gun faces arrest, Miller said.

It's a felony to lie on a 4473 Form. Why shouldn't anyone who lies on the "application" form face arrest, whether they are in NJ, PA, MN, etc. Whomever made that statement is as dumb as a fence post. His brains, if they were gas, wouldn't be enough to power an ant's go cart once around the inside of a Froot Loop.
 
It's a felony to lie on a 4473 Form. Why shouldn't anyone who lies on the "application" form face arrest, whether they are in NJ, PA, MN, etc. Whomever made that statement is as dumb as a fence post. His brains, if they were gas, wouldn't be enough to power an ant's go cart once around the inside of a Froot Loop.
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Let ME tell YOU why: Because the NICS database is full of errors. It relies on the FBI database, which relies on state and local authorities for reporting. If some $10 an hour dingbat puts in a wrong code at the local level, it propagates to the FBI and NICS. First thing you know, some citizen with a $33 misdemeanor is being arrested on felony gun charges for "lying" on his 4473.

If the authorities did what YOU wanted them to do, 30,000 people would be falsely arrested every year on federal gun charges. Whomever makes the statement "why shouldn't anyone who lies on the "application" form face arrest, whether they are in NJ, PA, MN" is ignorant as to the extent of errors in the NICS database because they trust a $10 an hour clerk to be the guardian of 2A rights.
 
An error by a $10/hr dingbat...

does not constitute a lie on a 4473. IANAL but I think there must be intent to mislead by providing false info on a signed form before you get prosecuted. You might be hassled by the dingbats action but I doubt you would end up a felon. YMMV, just my opinon, I may be wrong.
 
I know that it does not constitute a lie, but the police don't. That won't get sorted out until after the strip search, bond (if you can make it) or jail, a HUGE lawyer bill, and possible loss of job/home/etc. My story will be told soon, and you will see where I am coming from and why they can't just go arresting people because of what comes up in a NICS database. Your definition of "hassle" is obviously my definition of "hell".
 
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Prehaps they need to outlaw travel. That should slow down this insidious nonsense.
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Or require a passport to travel from New Jersey to anywhere. That oughta make everybody happy.:) That's it! Close the border!

(BTW, whatever happened to everybody enforcing his existing laws, and letting his neighbor plow his own field?):confused:
 
I don't appreciate being associated with politicians who are currently in office.

How would most Americans like it if they were associated with our President Bush?
 
Or require a passport to travel from New Jersey to anywhere. That oughta make everybody happy. That's it! Close the border!
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Great idea...after all we are experts at closing borders! It should only take a matter of weeks considering all our past success with this type of thing. :banghead:
 
New Jersey targets Pennsylvania gun sales

It's a lot easier to blame someone else than to mitigate the insoluble in your own back yard. The hacks in Trenton have determined that they can fool the misinformed, uninformed, gullible, and the truly stupid, in general the majority of the NJ electorate, each and every time. Why take the blame when you can successfully pretend the fault lies elsewhere?
 
In NJ our Politicians conduct business that gets Pols in other states sent to jail. But the mind numbed moronic voters keep voting them back in, so they think they can do anythig, say anything and the public will bah and bleet. They are not used to the idea that there are Americans that value their freedom or Nj stops at the river. You guys in PA shoot them down the way VA did Bloomberg.
 
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