The Guns of Firefly?

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Inara has been something of a mystery for me. I want to know what is up with her. Ever since Joss brought up in the DVD commentaries that the syringe (from the "Reavers are coming" scene in Serenity) wasn't really a suicide kit. That and the suspicious package she concealed from others at the mail pick-up in The Message. Something's not quite right about her.

Then again you could probably say that for the rest of the crew. Seemed like everybody had secrets in that show.

"See, that's my whole problem with picking up tourists! They ain't never what they claim to be!" - Jayne in Safe
 
Claire Wolfe recommended it?
I guess that's yet another recommendation for Claire!
 
I am very interested in the Shepard character. Book. He gets the Alliance to take him in to their hospital, gets the needed treatment, and the Alliance let's them leave unmolested. Book knows all the ins and outs of certain things like space net techniques down to the last detail. He knows how to handle himself in a gun fight. Knows how to rig spotlights to cover an assault entry. Then a bounty hunters spits "That's no shepard."

High level Ex-Alliance officer?
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Yes. He's the Alliance general that led the Alliance forces at Serenity Valley and turned the tide of the war. Not just any ol' alliance brass, but the one that pretty much crushed the Browncoats. The Doc meantions his real name once when reading out of his encyclopedia, discussing Serenity Valley.

He better hope Mal didn't connect the dots.

I swear, Preacherman very much reminds me of Book. Or vice versa.


Inara or Kaylee?

I figure most will vote for Inara, but I seem to lean towards Kaylee. Maybe it's because she has that innocent air about her.
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I've dated women that very much reminded me of slightly older versions of River. Creepifying and morbid, indeed.
 
He's the Alliance general that led the Alliance forces at Serenity Valley and turned the tide of the war. Not just any ol' alliance brass, but the one that pretty much crushed the Browncoats. The Doc meantions his real name once when reading out of his encyclopedia, discussing Serenity Valley.
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This would be a great answer to the questions about Book's backgroud which the series left so painfully unanswered. How do you know it to be the case?
 
He's the Alliance general that led the Alliance forces at Serenity Valley and turned the tide of the war. Not just any ol' alliance brass, but the one that pretty much crushed the Browncoats. The Doc meantions his real name once when reading out of his encyclopedia, discussing Serenity Valley.
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That piqued my curiosity so I just now went through that scene. I'm assuming you mean the scene that was deleted out of Serenity?

This is what the script says, and what the encyclopaedia is reading out loud:

"In the war to unite the planets, the Battle Of Serenity was among the most devastating and decisive. Located on Hera, the valley was considered a key position by both sides, and was bitterly fought over. The Independents, with sixteen brigades and twenty air-tank squads, held the valley against Alliance forces for almost two months, until superior numbers and a deep-flank strategy by General Richard Wil...."
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It's cut off in the script, and in the deleted scene Zoe cuts in right at that point and you can't hear the encyclopaedia anymore. Sounded liike "Wilson" to me but it could be "Williams" or "Wilkins"? Whatever it is, there's nothing else that links either Richard Wil-whatever to Book, since that's the only name he goes by.

Not saying it's a bad theory, it's certainly plausible, just that it's not as concrete as you made it out to be.
 
It's cut off in the script, and in the deleted scene Zoe cuts in right at that point and you can't hear the encyclopaedia anymore. Sounded liike "Wilson" to me but it could be "Williams" or "Wilkins"? Whatever it is, there's nothing else that links either Richard Wil-whatever to Book, since that's the only name he goes by.
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Wilkins.
 
DAMN, that would make for a GREAT twist! I figured Book was either a high level officer or some wealthy guy on sabbatical.

Wasn't there some vague hint about an assassin group in Firefly? For some reason I thought there was some mention of one, and that Inara might be a member. I'll have to pay closer attention (never a problem when Inara is around!) when I watch the series again this summer.

I'm not sure how well the movie will do. The trailer is just as confused as the series promos were (not sure if it is a comedy, action, or drama) and seems to be relying HEAVILY on Weedon's name, something that is far from guaranteed to fill seats. I figure it will make the 30-40 million any sci-fi flick will bring in. I wonder what the budget is. The set is already bought and paid for, none of the actors should be expensive, and the show already had excellent FX. If the show cost 2-3 million an episode, the movie should be around 50 million. Seems like an odd gamble for Fox to greenlight a movie deal (three flicks is what I heard) on a show they would even finish a TV season for. I think Firefly would work better as a TV show anyway. Hopefully the comics can recapture the magic!
 
Serenity had a $40M budget I believe. And FOX has nothing to do with the movie. UNIVERSAL bought all the movie rights, and the cast has signed contracts for 3 movies with UNIVERSAL. FOX retains the rights to the TV series.

From all the reviews I've read, both from FF and non-FF fans, Serenity is easily profitable. My friends and I are planning on seeing the movie on the big screen at least half-a-dozen times. Have you guys seen the Serenity screening tickets on eBay? People were paying $100+ for a single ticket! Serenity would easily make money from the fans alone. Whether it will make enough to warrant making the sequels... well, I'm gonna do my damnedest to spread the word and get people out to see Serenity on Sept 30th.
 
There are some folks that believe Firefly was canned by Fox because certain executives had ideological problems with it.

Their lose, Universal's gain. Assuming the movie is a third as good as the shows, I'll see it a few times. Even if I do not like the movie, I will watch it again just to annoy Fox.
 
There are some folks that believe Firefly was canned by Fox because certain executives had ideological problems with it.
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Dark as it is, this is more flattering than the other possibility, which is that they are all colossal morons.

What would their objections be--they like the Blue Sun corporation? They're Alliance? I mean, these people kept the X-files on for a long time.
 
What would their objections be--they like the Blue Sun corporation? They're Alliance? I mean, these people kept the X-files on for a long time.
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No, more that they prefer shows like American Idol and other gorram 'reality TV'.
 
The first time we see Book, he's wandering the dock looking at the ships.

He's not looking where they're going, or anything else, he's just looking at ships. Then, when Kaylee stops him, not only does he know that her ship is a Firefly class, he knows the variant and he's been on them before.

A career spent interdicting smugglers and chasing pirates and assorted other anti-social types in the years before the war, and spending the war in command of a destroyer squadron or a fleet would give someone the intimate knowledge of various law-breaking-type activities.

Plus, when Book was injured, I don't see the squids jumping through hoops the way they did for a retired crunchie type, General or no.

Now, Commodore or Admiral Book, Alliance Navy, Retired -- that'll make a swabbie sit up and pay attention.

Ever since Joss brought up in the DVD commentaries that the syringe (from the "Reavers are coming" scene in Serenity) wasn't really a suicide kit.
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My guess is that the needle Inara had was a quick-and-painless intended for Kaylee if the Reavers wound up knocking on the airlock hatch.

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My guess is that the needle Inara had was a quick-and-painless intended for Kaylee if the Reavers wound up knocking on the airlock hatch.
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Joss IMPLIED that it was something that would have been 'suprising' and the suicide angle is pretty obvious, obvious enough that everyone who saw the scene (inluding myself) made that assumption. Using it on someone else wouldnt be enough of a twist. I suspect that it would be something having to do with her "mysterious past", which would explain the misdirect in the first place. Whedon LOVES to plant little things like that, and then have them come up later in an unexpected way. Whatever substance is in the needle im almost positive that it isnt fatal to the person that injects it.
 
Remember the "Kiss Goodnight" stuff that the other companion had? Probably something to poison her body so if they took her, they would be killing themselves.
 
There are some folks that believe Firefly was canned by Fox because certain executives had ideological problems with it.
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What would their objections be--they like the Blue Sun corporation? They're Alliance? I mean, these people kept the X-files on for a long time.
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My guess would be that it's the pro-freedom, anti-government mentality that pervades the show. Firefly is/was the only show I can recall that held that government was evil and individual liberty was noble. Afterall, isn't it that why it feels so good to watch Firefly?
 
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I suppose an anti-establishment TV show might rankle some execs on the board of Establishment Television, International. Especially since what was supposed to be the pilot, "Serenity", features The Hero shooting a cop who has taken a prisoner/hostage, after previously shooting one bystander and beating up a preacher with a fire extinguisher/thermos/whatever. (On the network where COPS is one of the original programs, this might not fly too well.)

That, and the point that only rarely in any given scene is someone *not* armed might rankle a bit.

Course the drug smuggling episode, Ariel, when the good guys boosted expensive pharmaceuticals from a state hospital likely ruffled some more feathers.

Come to think, from a certain point of view, Firefly was a series attempting to glorify the antics of a collection of rootless heavily armed ex-rebels who travel about in an unlicenced/registered ship, flouting the established system of law and order for personal benefit via robbery, smuggling, practicing medicine without a licence, murder, illegal entry, gunplay with unregistered military-style assualt weapons, defiance of lawful authority, and so forth.


Huh. Who knew Firefly was so immoral.....That must be why it was canceled. It was for our own good. See, Big TV really cares.




By the way, I blame everyone who posted to this thread, PERSONALLY, for making me buy the series, which was compelling enought that I couldn't stop watching it after I put the first disk in until I took the last disk out. (And then the first thing I did was to download the Serenity movie trailer.)
Darn you all to heck.
 
Did you guys know.... that Adam Baldwin is "one of us". I was checking out some of his posts on the Prospero board, dug up some of his older posts and was pleasantly surprised that he leans right like most of us here on THR. Pro-gun, pro-military, pro-Bush, etc. Go to http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/ and run a search for "ADAM_BALDWIN" (username) if you don't believe me. Adam, unlike Jayne, is actually pretty damn brainy, and all articulate-like, and boy does he light a fire under the liberals in that board. It's hilarious! I really like Jaynes character in Firefly (my favorite) but now I really respect the actor behind that character.

p.s. Here's some hilarious bits about Malcolm Reynold's and Jayne Cobb's endorsement Bush for the 2004 vote:

Mal's endorsement: http://coffee.ondragonswing.com/archives/000051.html

Jayne's endorsement: http://www.imao.us/archives/002140.html



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