The Roommate did something dumb today!

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Gunsmith!

your roomate
is an idiot.
Is he on medication?
being that you were doing dishes you should have clobbered him with the fry pan!
I'm serious, it's not assault if he was grabbing your gun.
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Thanks for that wonderful visual. I can just see that now.

"Dude, I'm grabbing your gun."
"HEY! Hands off-" *CLANG*
"Dude, I'm grabbing an icepack."
:neener:



(Holy crap! Post #666!)



(er.... or is that UnHoly crap?)
 
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Time to have a serious discussion with the roomate!

That's how accidents happen.
 
First you did good not great but good. The main thing is you protected the weapon and yourself. You may want to look into taking a weapon retention course or two. Imagine the roommate if after you clamped down on the gun he got an elbow to the face. Then you called the police to report an assault. Technically he did attempt to assault you with a deadly weapon. I would look for another place or new roommates.
 
..........I read this thread thru about a half a dozen times and I'm still lost. First off I don't understand why you felt it necessary to carry a loaded gun around inside your home at all. Do you live in that bad of neighborhood where the BG's from Louisville, KY routinely come thru open windows and attack groups of young men doing the dishes?
 
You may want to look into taking a weapon retention course or two.
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Again what brings you to that conclusion, he retained his weapon

First off I don't understand why you felt it necessary to carry a loaded gun around inside your home at all. Do you live in that bad of neighborhood where the BG's from Louisville, KY routinely come thru open windows and attack groups of young men doing the dishes?
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Maybe he carries at home for the same reason you ridicule those that live their life differently than you, he feels like it.

And by the way guess where most home invasion robberies happen and most home defense situations occur
 
Well Buck

First off I don't understand why you felt it necessary to carry a loaded gun around inside your home at all.
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OR

I don't know why you need to vote at all.

OR

I don't know why black people and white people need to marry.

OR

I don't know why you need a Bible (Koran, Torah, Tibetan book of the Dead etc)

OR

I don't know why you need a newspaper

OR

I don't know why you want to write a letter to your Senator.

it is not a NEED!
it is a RIGHT

I guess you have not been a victim of a home invasion, if it happens to you as it happens to many people in both good or bad neighborhoods, you will wish you had exercised your rights.
 
Son you do need weapon retention training.
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Something everyone should have.

I'm not big on open carry in public (gives away an advantage IMO) but in the
home, why not? A serious sit down is in order as that was an incredibly stupid
and dangerous thing for him to do.

Make sure the house rules are laid out and followed.
I currently have 2 roommates as well.... everyone owns and carries.. no-one would
do something like that. We have known each other for years and still ask first before
touching each others firearms. If nothing less it is just out of respect.
 
Maybe your roommates just don't take you serious when you're open carrying a Glock while doing the dishes.

God knows I wouldn't, either.
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Why not. Do you believe you're 100% safe in your home. I'm always armed at home.

Yesterday, there was a home invasion less than a mile from my house. One BG killed, another wounded. One LEO in the hospital.

I think you need to re-evaluate carrying at home.
 
RioShooter, maybe it is because he was carrying a Glock. Although it is closely related to Tupperware.... are Glocks dishwasher safe? :neener:
 
I read this thread thru about a half a dozen times and I'm still lost. First off I don't understand why you felt it necessary to carry a loaded gun around inside your home at all. Do you live in that bad of neighborhood where the BG's from Louisville, KY routinely come thru open windows and attack groups of young men doing the dishes?
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buck460XVR
I'm going to repeat what I said in an earlier post...

Now if I know human reactions, somebody is gonna get upset and defensive in a conversation and try to turn the responsibility for this situation back on you with some variation of "well why were you wearing it in the first place". Don't let this throw you. Keep problem ownership correctly focused on the fact that it doesn't matter why you were open carrying, it matters that NOBODY EVER grabs someone else's sidearm without permission PERIOD.
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Maybe I should have gone into psychology :D
 
it is not a NEED!
it is a RIGHT

I guess you have not been a victim of a home invasion, if it happens to you as it happens to many people in both good or bad neighborhoods, you will wish you had exercised your rights.
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I know it's a right gunsmith......but was it necessary? Was he really in fear of his life while in his home with his roommates present or just being another Poser?

I also know that more friends and family get shot and KILLED by careless use of loaded guns in a home than BGs....look at the statistics, or just read this thread.

BTW...I do exercise my rights.....safely and with prudence. Any body in my home that has any contact with a gun always treats it as loaded and with respect or they're lookin' down the business end. I don't have to strut around with them loaded trying to show off or impress people who don't understand the dangers they're being exposed to...........but then I'm more a realist and not dreamin of being rambo..........
 
I've never been called a poser before, lol. I guess I am on my high horse and you, Buck, are subservient to me and not as manly because I am Rambo. :uhoh: In all seriousness I am an advocate of preparedness and the practical. Sorry if I don't feel like wearing my IWB holster 24/7. I don't insult you, sir, so I'd appreciate it if you would quit acting like a wiener.
 
buck460XVR

. . . seems to be being judgmental about those of us who carry in the home in EXACTLY the same way as anti-gun people are judgmental about all of us.
 
I know it's a right gunsmith......but was it necessary?
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I CCW 24/7 (even at home) because, to the bet of my knowledge, despite all the investment and R&D that has been spent on the project; Kel-Tec still expects its CCB-9* to be years off. When they perfect it, I will happily stop carrying anywhere except where needed.





*Crime Crystal Ball chambered in 9mm.
 
I also know that more friends and family get shot and KILLED by careless use of loaded guns in a home than BGs....look at the statistics, or just read this thread.
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Please, show us the statistics.

Most Bad Guys confronted with a gun wielding home owner are not killed.
 
Okay, this is going to a place that I never expected it to. How can anyone even BEGIN to question the OP's choice in carrying in his home, open or not? Come on people, really now. This is PRO-RKBA discussion forum!

I think the OP did everything just fine. The outburst of, "Do you want to die?!" to me read more like, "You could have killed me or you, is that worth the laugh you got?" as opposed to, "I'm going to kill you for that because I am Conan the manwarrior Rambo guy!".

I live with roomates of similar ages, and I can tell you, that this kind of stuff is going to happen unless you sit down and talk to them face-to-face in a serious setting. When I unwrapped my new (well, not actually mine, as I'm sending it back, but that's another story) AK WASR2, wiped off the grease from it, and pulled back the action to check the chamber, my roomate drooled and asked to hold it. When I handed it to him, he let out a little Beavis and Butthead laugh and shouldered the rifle pointing it right at my head.

I let out a few obscenities, but before I could finish, my other roomate said some infuriating words, "Yeah dude, never point a gun at someone, especially someone who owns guns."

Needless to say, I was stunned and a little speechless. Those last five words were so painfully stupid, I just took the rifle back from him and went upstairs, without saying a thing.
 
Try grabbing a gun out of a cops holster and explain to them that you were "just kidding".

I agree with what the OP did. It was a self defense situation. I wouldn't be open carrying in my house personally nor would I draw the gun but the roommate had no right to grab for the gun either.
 
Well,my .02 is this....
The phrase"Do you want to die" was
probably spoken out of fear/adrenaline rush. Vis had identified the threat as
his roommate and blurted the first thing that came to mind.
I think its the same as "Are you crazy?",more as a retorical question.
I can see myself saying the same thing
at that moment.
My take:No harm,no foul.
I think the roomy learned his lesson.
 
Buck460XVR said:
I know it's a right gunsmith......but was it necessary? Was he really in fear of his life while in his home with his roommates present or just being another Poser?

I also know that more friends and family get shot and KILLED by careless use of loaded guns in a home than BGs....look at the statistics, or just read this thread.

BTW...I do exercise my rights.....safely and with prudence. Any body in my home that has any contact with a gun always treats it as loaded and with respect or they're lookin' down the business end. I don't have to strut around with them loaded trying to show off or impress people who don't understand the dangers they're being exposed to...........but then I'm more a realist and not dreamin of being rambo..........
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Buck, it doesn't matter whether or not you think it was "necessary, what matters is that vis-a-vis thought it was prudent. Ya know, there's this funny thing about crimes ... I don't know if you've ever noticed, but very few people choose to be victims of crime. Those who are victims of crime very seldom get to choose the time, place, or nature of the crime.

Do you have a smoke detector in your house/apartment? If so, why? It obviously isn't "necessary" if you've never had a fire.

People take preventive precautions against the possibility of something happening that they would prefer to not have happen. Hell, if we were all psychic with 100% infallibility, nobody would ever need a gun, pepper spray, knife or any other defensive weapon because we would know when an attack was coming and simply avoid it. Not being infallibly psychic, some oeple choose to carry means of self defense, much as other people choose to carry a spare tire in their car.

Here's a little reality check for you, Buck: If you believe that a home invasion cannot ever happen to you ... you are NOT being a "realist."
 
I apologize to those who think I have stepped on your toes..... you are as entitled to your opinions as I am to mine. I am not anti-carry, even in your home if it is really a necessity. I myself have a Rossi SxS coachgun loaded with 00 buckshot within reach of where I sleep at night. Those in my household know where it is and how to use it also....if and when a situation arises where someone other than that may come in contact with or mess with it, it gets unloaded and placed back in the safe. My only concern in this case was the loaded gun was not there for protection, but to be shown off and thus may have prompted the roommate to do the stunt he did. I agree that what he did was foolish, but he apparently was not informed of the potential danger.

I'm a little old school when it comes to guns, and have been around them all my life. Several years before I took my first hunter safety course(back in '66), my dad tried to instill safe gun handling habits in me. Now I know he wasn't quite as savvy as many of you, because he didn't learn from an internet tactical website. He learned from the 4th Marine Division on the islands of Iwo and Saipan, but still some of his words made sense to me. One thing he told me many times was "YOU are responsible for every shell in your gun everytime you load it....and YOU are responsible for them until you either unload them and put them back in your pocket or till they come to their final resting place after they leave the barrel......whether or not YOU are the one who pulled the trigger." I always took this to mean it didn't matter if I missed the deer and the bullet struck something I didn't want it to or if I placed my loaded gun someplace where someone else could shoot it. When one loads a gun they are the one responsible for it's contents.....whether they use the shells on the bad guy or the bad guy(or roommate) takes their gun and shoots them or their wife, they still have to accept the responsibility of that loaded weapon being there. The 2nd amendment does gives us the right to keep our guns, but it does not give anyone the right to use them irresponsibly.

......again. sorry Rambo for being such a weiner.
 
Well Buck, no one here will disagree with your sentiment of Gun Safety. But your problem is that you assume I am automatically striving to be like Rambo or am looking to impress. I don't know how I can prove to you one way or the other and so I will leave you to whatever opinion you wish to have whether it be right or wrong, but don't insult me in the process.
 
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