Treylis
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Yeah, I'd be worried about him Ramboing in front of a mirror with your guns when you're not there.
Unsafe roommate
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ducktapehero
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You could try this. Get a blank round and put it in the gun and leave the gun out for him to play with while you are gone. When that blank goes off it'll scare him enough that he will probably take you more seriously.
I don't live in on-campus housing (guns not allowed there). I live in university approved housing, where guns are allowed with the landlord's permission. Legally in Utah, a landlord can't disallow gun ownership in a residence. The private university I attend, however, legally can and does requires you to get permission from both roommates and landlord in your residence as one of many conditions of continued enrollment; although most people I know just adopt a don't ask, don't tell policy with the landlords. About all they do if they find out you have them, and they don't want to allow them, is they'll ask you to remove them. I've never had any problems though.
Sorry, but the blanks idea is not a good one. If he does something like point it close to his head or at someone else's, it could still kill them. Although you may not care about whether or not he lives or dies, you certainly don't want him to commit the act with your gun. You will become part of the criminal justice system...and I don't mean finishing law school. You would certainly have a lot of problems you don't need. Good luck. And I hope the girl is cute (you still haven't answered that question 
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seed.
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lol seed. Yeah, she's pretty cute. I'm still undecided as to whether I'm interested in her as more than friends. But time spent getting to know her better during the drive to range and back ought to help me figure that out a little better!
ducktapehero
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You're right, but in a world without lawyers it would work good.
Okay, this is a bit off the topic, but I will tell you right now: if you are interested in her (and I know you are), then DO NOT...I repeat: DO NOT let her fall into the friend category. If she mutters that f-word (friend, that is) in relation to you, it is all but over unless you have got a few years and other hot chicks to date in the mean time to make her want you. But if you haven't already made the very common mistake of leaving the option open for the f-word crap, then make a DATE with her. Say it...Date. Make it clear from the beginning. If she blows you off, then act like it is not a big deal...stay (gasp!) "friends" with her and move on to an even cuter chick. I wouldn't even care if she or any other girl liked guns (deep down, they all do)...just so long as the sex is good.
Oh, and keep that blocking roommate away from your chicks, if you can help it. He ain't in it to help you out... He just sees a cute female and his hormones kick in (to the detriment of his empty brain and to the code of wingmen...even if it is not technically a wingman situation). He's just looking to hijack you of your catch...not that he has a chance at success, just that it will lead to awkward and, in your case even dangerous situations. In the pursuit of women, who needs a loser like that?
seed.
Oh, and keep that blocking roommate away from your chicks, if you can help it. He ain't in it to help you out... He just sees a cute female and his hormones kick in (to the detriment of his empty brain and to the code of wingmen...even if it is not technically a wingman situation). He's just looking to hijack you of your catch...not that he has a chance at success, just that it will lead to awkward and, in your case even dangerous situations. In the pursuit of women, who needs a loser like that?
seed.
ducktapehero
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Never hang out with a guy who breaks the "wingman code".
harpethriver
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Your first mistake was assuming your roommate knew something about guns, much less basic safety rules. I would never think of showing or letting someone handle my guns unless we had "the talk" previously, and preferrably in private. With some people you're better off with them not even knowing you have guns, much less what you have and where they are kept. You really should have had a better understanding of this guy's background before you broke out the iron for "show and tell." This was just as much your mistake as his. The bottom line is you knew better, he didn't.
Thanks for the advice. Although sex isn't really an issue for me till I'm married. I'm LDS(Mormon) and Mormon dating culture differs a bit from average at least as far as that is concerned. The "wingman code" however, is alive and well amongst us. And no, my roommate doesn't adhere to it too well. But as I said, I'll soon be living with my brother and hopefully my best friend as well; who not only follow "the code," but also understand gun safety. Don't worry seed, I'm keeping her firmly out of the friend-category until I'm sure that's where I want her.
Edit: Harpethriver, I certainly learned better not to assume yesterday. I had the case closed behind me, he was on the couch, I wasn't intending him to handle the guns, and had no idea he was doing so until I was staring down the barrel. I should have had the guncase where I could see it though, rather than behind me. I didn't have a pile of guns out. I'd only brought out two in a case, and while I was showing her safe handling on my .22 he got his monkey paws into the case and pulled out my 9mm. But again, I did indeed learn a couple lessons.
And no, my roommate doesn't adhere to it too well. But as I said, I'll soon be living with my brother and hopefully my best friend as well; who not only follow "the code," but also understand gun safety. Don't worry seed, I'm keeping her firmly out of the friend-category until I'm sure that's where I want her.Edit: Harpethriver, I certainly learned better not to assume yesterday. I had the case closed behind me, he was on the couch, I wasn't intending him to handle the guns, and had no idea he was doing so until I was staring down the barrel. I should have had the guncase where I could see it though, rather than behind me. I didn't have a pile of guns out. I'd only brought out two in a case, and while I was showing her safe handling on my .22 he got his monkey paws into the case and pulled out my 9mm. But again, I did indeed learn a couple lessons.
Hear, hear, Ducktapehero...You know what I'm talking about. The only reason females have the power over us that they do, is because we stupidly give it to them. But when we males act to help each other out, rather than stab each other in the back, things improve. If Marnoot keeps this roommate and of course still locks up his stuff, etc., he will still have an idiot around who will wreck his game.
So you know what?...Marnoot, if you don't get rid of this guy on account of being a dangerous mental-midget, you should do it because he is a traitor to the code. He is a blocker and probably worse. And no, I'm not kidding.
seed.
So you know what?...Marnoot, if you don't get rid of this guy on account of being a dangerous mental-midget, you should do it because he is a traitor to the code. He is a blocker and probably worse. And no, I'm not kidding.
seed.
Sorry for the late post, Marnoot...didn't read your last one before I finished typing my last one. I'll shut up now (finally, huh?). But just one more thing: you won't put yourself in the friend-zone, but she might if you're not careful. Good luck again and I apologize if I offended you with any of my comments.
seed.
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twoblink
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What you need to do is dig up some articles about people getting shot and dying from "unloaded guns"
What I do is usually print out the story, and leave it on the toilet seat.. It works.. trust me.. It's subtle but effective..
What I do is usually print out the story, and leave it on the toilet seat.. It works.. trust me.. It's subtle but effective..
aguyindallas
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Dude, I hope you have a gun safe!
No one....
and i mean NO ONE handles my guns less i've slipped the mag, cleared the gun, and locked the slide, and handed it to them. on the one gun that i have that doesn't lock - it doesn't get handled by anyone. (other than me and the gf i bought it for)
If i had said roomie - he would be in for some serious i'm gonna kick yer butt talks... (altho if i had guns and a roomie - they would know the score already....)
The gun is always loaded - unless there is no mag - is no round in the chamber and the slide is locked for all to see proof of those two things.
(altho for my personal self - know when my HK USP compact is loaded by the hammer in the dark of night. - if its back at ALL its loaded. Its impossible to chamber a round and leave the hammer flat (edit: ok - its imposible to safely do this, not impossible to be this way) - its impossible to decock the hammer to where it would BE flat. The only way to get it flat is to punch the trigger on an empty chamber(EDIT: or try to gently get the hammer down w/o tagging the pin too hard - not something i'd try to do personally), but thats part of knowing your gun - same rules apply if i hand it to someone else/clean it/whatever it - mag,clear,lock,hand.)
J/Tharg!
and i mean NO ONE handles my guns less i've slipped the mag, cleared the gun, and locked the slide, and handed it to them. on the one gun that i have that doesn't lock - it doesn't get handled by anyone. (other than me and the gf i bought it for)
If i had said roomie - he would be in for some serious i'm gonna kick yer butt talks... (altho if i had guns and a roomie - they would know the score already....)
The gun is always loaded - unless there is no mag - is no round in the chamber and the slide is locked for all to see proof of those two things.
(altho for my personal self - know when my HK USP compact is loaded by the hammer in the dark of night. - if its back at ALL its loaded. Its impossible to chamber a round and leave the hammer flat (edit: ok - its imposible to safely do this, not impossible to be this way) - its impossible to decock the hammer to where it would BE flat. The only way to get it flat is to punch the trigger on an empty chamber(EDIT: or try to gently get the hammer down w/o tagging the pin too hard - not something i'd try to do personally), but thats part of knowing your gun - same rules apply if i hand it to someone else/clean it/whatever it - mag,clear,lock,hand.)
J/Tharg!
rayra
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Sorry, but High Road or no, that's a damned stupid 'solution', considering you say you've got clueless folks handling your weapons.
rayra
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Sorry, but that is another stupid idea. People have been KILLED with blanks.
A high-profile example was a stupid actor named Jon-Erik Hexum.
ducktapehero
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Did you not read where I already admitted this? Here it is again.
Do you actually have something to add to this conversation? Or do you just want to rip into other people for their half sarcastic comments.
Went out plinking on Saturday with her. Things went well, she did pretty good for a first time. She busted out laughing after she shot the 9mm because I hadn't told her it kicked at all, so she wasn't expecting it. Overall things went well, she's decided she likes shooting guns and wants to go again. Another person more well informed and protected from the anti's lies.
seed, I think I'll just probably be friends with this one; she's a little too high-energy for me. The kind of girl where you have to turn your phone volume down whenever she calls. Not really my type.
As for the roommate, my guns are all in my closet in their cases, all of which have locks on them, all of which are locked. I just won't be cleaning them or otherwise working on them when he's around. And when I'm gone for more than a day, the guns come with me. And my carry gun is with me even more. It would be with me 24/7, but BYU doesn't allow carry on campus. It's a private university, and my enrollment is conditional on my obeying the various rules.
seed, I think I'll just probably be friends with this one; she's a little too high-energy for me. The kind of girl where you have to turn your phone volume down whenever she calls
. Not really my type.As for the roommate, my guns are all in my closet in their cases, all of which have locks on them, all of which are locked. I just won't be cleaning them or otherwise working on them when he's around. And when I'm gone for more than a day, the guns come with me. And my carry gun is with me even more. It would be with me 24/7, but BYU doesn't allow carry on campus. It's a private university, and my enrollment is conditional on my obeying the various rules.
Your roommate's pride is keeping him from seeing the danger in what he was doing. Your reaction, though justified, has hardened him into his belief that he did nothing wrong. Unfortunately, he may have to discover his error the hard way before he wises up.
Glad it went well. Too bad there was not a connection (always more fun when there is). And since you are the marrying type, I guess you're not gonna go for the "fun"-till-I-get-another route (which always leads to someone else faster than if you are flying completely solo...it's like other women can smell it when you are getting it and this makes them want you more). That's totally cool, though. Less risky for unwanted attachments.
As for your roommate...He's not the thieving type, is he? If you aren't sure, then you might consider getting some sort of volume lock box or safe. I could just see this prick sitting there scratching his head, trying to figure out which friend of his allegedly took one of your cases...or gee, the door was unlocked when he left for just a moment. Or whatever. Take it from someone who has been victimized by thieving jerk-offs. The only thing they do better than stealing is lying to cover it up. They are so good at lying that they actually convince themselves over time. And you can never prove otherwise. Typically, they get very defensive and turn it back on you...start yelling at you for falsely accusing them and such. I hate thieves with a passion. And so, I trust almost no one. In fact, very few people even know where I keep my safes (one hidden in my apartment and one better hidden at my parent's) or that I even have them. Call me paranoid, but screw it. In Kali, if someone steals your gun and uses it in a crime, you the gun-owner can get pinned with the crime (if you did not take proper precautions to secure it). So suffice it to say that no one has stolen, nor can they can easily steal my guns... And for the record, other than my vehicles, of which I have literally lost count of how many times they have been stolen/broken into, I have not had anything stolen from me in years. Good luck.
seed.
As for your roommate...He's not the thieving type, is he? If you aren't sure, then you might consider getting some sort of volume lock box or safe. I could just see this prick sitting there scratching his head, trying to figure out which friend of his allegedly took one of your cases...or gee, the door was unlocked when he left for just a moment. Or whatever. Take it from someone who has been victimized by thieving jerk-offs. The only thing they do better than stealing is lying to cover it up. They are so good at lying that they actually convince themselves over time. And you can never prove otherwise. Typically, they get very defensive and turn it back on you...start yelling at you for falsely accusing them and such. I hate thieves with a passion. And so, I trust almost no one. In fact, very few people even know where I keep my safes (one hidden in my apartment and one better hidden at my parent's) or that I even have them. Call me paranoid, but screw it. In Kali, if someone steals your gun and uses it in a crime, you the gun-owner can get pinned with the crime (if you did not take proper precautions to secure it). So suffice it to say that no one has stolen, nor can they can easily steal my guns... And for the record, other than my vehicles, of which I have literally lost count of how many times they have been stolen/broken into, I have not had anything stolen from me in years. Good luck.
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