Time for a DA/SA decocking pocket carry

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Looked at the Beretta Pico. ugh. next.

Now that every company has a micro in every form of trigger weight in fake double action (not many (any) are true DAO), it is time someone make a pocket DA/SA with a decocker...the more useable set up for pocket carry.

Walther PPS in AS please? Yes?
 
Although I personally like DA/SA, I think the latest trend (and I don't mean fad or fashion, just the way things are going lately) is to have the same trigger pull for every shot, first and last. Whether that's DAO or SAO, the 'O' is the key. The SIG DAK action is pretty nice, but I'm only speaking from 50 rounds worth of experience on that one.
 
I just bought a Bersa Thunder Combat model. I do not pocket carry it, but IWB works good. The gun is so accurate it is kinda boring to shoot. Nah. It is fun to shoot.

My other is a pocket carry J-Frame Taurus 731UL in 32 H&R Magnum. It works well. I just wanted an autoloader for IWB for the Summer. I could have gotten a 9mm for the same weight, but I think the ergonomics of the Bersa Thunder are just what I was looking for, and at a distance I would be using the pistol Winchest Ranger T's will do fine backed up by a mag of flat nose 95 grain FMJ.
 
I like DA/SA too, but I don't think it's the best choice for the micro-pistols: too hard to manipulate on such a small platform, IMO, not to mention that the lever adds width to a package that's trying to be as small as possible.
 
A well designed decocker doesn't add much width. Have a look at the SIG P224. Probably as close to what you're looking for as there is available today.
 
Agree that a SIG-style decocker would be best for that application, and wondering why they decided to make the P238 in SAO configuration. Just to have a nice light trigger pull?

I'm not hating on the Pico yet. I'd like to try one. I'm thinking that I wouldn't mind having one in .32 -- I think that's a more reasonable caliber for such a tiny gun that's mostly meant for back-up and deep cover anyway. Sort of an upmarket Kel-Tec P32.
 
Having "grown up" shooting 3rd Gen S&W and currently using a Beretta PX4 as my main carry weapon, I would love to see a slide mounted decocker DA/SA gun, but I do know that it would not be very popular
 
The Bersa Thunder CC model come close to what you are asking. It is actually very slightly larger than a PPK/S but is slimmer through the grip and lighter due to its alloy frame. Has an 8 round magazine to boot.
 
SIG SAUER's website currently shows most of the P224 models to be mainly available with the DAK trigger set-up, though the Equinox version has the traditional DA/SA trigger with a decocker. And the P239 and P232 are also available in the same configuration.
 
I don't think people are getting the vision here.

A Bersa is not a true pocket gun. It weights too much and is too big.

A decocker actually doesn't have to stick out. HK P30 is in the back and a Walther P99 AS is completely flush (actually recessed a bit).
 
How about a CZ2075? Not real big, sa/da, decocker, CZ quality.
And it's just a damn fine looking gun!
 
Walther PPS in AS please? Yes?

That would be a near-ideal carry pistol (though the PPS is a bit large for pocket-carry IMHO).

The Walther Anti-Stress (AS) trigger may be the best all-around defensive trigger ever devised. I can not think of a single trigger that offers the same balance of safety, trigger feel, and ability to be brought quickly into action.
 
Post wise, I'm pretty new here...but I've read a lot here and on other forums that lead me to posting some (maybe) helpful information I've been working on for a solution to exactly this issue for 9 years. Here's some of what I've found for me and mine for SMALL concealed carry weapons:

A consistent long, smooth trigger pull with no de-cocker or safety wins over every other system that I've seen. It's almost idiot proof.

Steel, be it stainless or not, wins over alloy, scandium, un-obtainium. The weight absorbs energy helping to prevent developing a flinch that renders your weapon completely useless because a miss doesn't stop anybody.

The fit of the weapon in the hand has a lot more to do with the accuracy and reliability of the weapon in a defense situation than almost anything else. The fit also has everything to do with follow-up accuracy and felt recoil as well.

The cost of the weapon is way down the list as far as importance goes. Before you shoot me, here's why I say that...Find the BEST weapon you can with the least complicated operating mechanism. Again, forget the price. Understand its particulars and traits and whether those traits fit in your "carry" particulars. Then determine where the balance is between the $$ cost and what you are willing to give up from the "ideal" carry and what you want to spend. My feeling is always to put quality first because you generally get what you pay for.

To my mind,the only true "pocket" guns in this list are the Seecamps and the Rohrbaughs. After that, too much bulge for an average person for pocket...but great for IWB or OWB with the cover garment.

The final decisions on small carry guns that my family and I've tried are:
Smallest on up:
Seecamp 32ACP
Seecamp 380
Rohrbaugh 380
Rohrbaugh 9mm
Ruger 101 .32H&R mag
Ruger 101 9mm
S&W 640 38/357
S&W940 9mm

I have and use all of these weapons and have NEVER had a negative issue of any kind with any of them.
 
Fishbed77, I would SO be getting a Walther PPS AS, if it were ever made. Doubt it would be, but it would be my choice for IWB carry. Would be too big for pocket, unless cargo.
 
The Beretta tomcat and bobcat are both DA/SA, that's about it for DA/SA pocket guns that I know of.
 
I really like the SIG P938 SAS or Blackwood but the early P938s had some minor issues so I would purchase a recently manufactured P938 or an older one that has been fixed by the factory.
 
H&K P2000SK? or too big.

(to be honest, I don't have mine yet so I can't tell you if it's too big to be a pocket gun.)
 
Post wise, I'm pretty new here...but I've read a lot here and on other forums that lead me to posting some (maybe) helpful information I've been working on for a solution to exactly this issue for 9 years. Here's some of what I've found for me and mine for SMALL concealed carry weapons:

A consistent long, smooth trigger pull with no de-cocker or safety wins over every other system that I've seen. It's almost idiot proof.

Steel, be it stainless or not, wins over alloy, scandium, un-obtainium. The weight absorbs energy helping to prevent developing a flinch that renders your weapon completely useless because a miss doesn't stop anybody.

The fit of the weapon in the hand has a lot more to do with the accuracy and reliability of the weapon in a defense situation than almost anything else. The fit also has everything to do with follow-up accuracy and felt recoil as well.

The cost of the weapon is way down the list as far as importance goes. Before you shoot me, here's why I say that...Find the BEST weapon you can with the least complicated operating mechanism. Again, forget the price. Understand its particulars and traits and whether those traits fit in your "carry" particulars. Then determine where the balance is between the $$ cost and what you are willing to give up from the "ideal" carry and what you want to spend. My feeling is always to put quality first because you generally get what you pay for.

To my mind,the only true "pocket" guns in this list are the Seecamps and the Rohrbaughs. After that, too much bulge for an average person for pocket...but great for IWB or OWB with the cover garment.

I would add the MPA 380. Not as refined as the seecamp, but mine had been flawless. Nearly identical to the seecamp in size and around $300. When I got mine, about 8 months ago, they were easy to find (unlike the seecamp). Also has a ported barrel which makes the recoil very manageable
 
Tdodge7 writes:

The Beretta tomcat and bobcat are both DA/SA, that's about it for DA/SA pocket guns that I know of.

They are, but they lack the decocker option the OP is hunting. Have to thumb-guide the hammer down while pulling the trigger.
 
True but they're both tilt barrels so you never need to cock the hammer to put one in the chamber in the first place.
 
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