Tombstone.
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Thanks again Rupestris, watched it again and it's much better knowing what they say. Also took a SS of the tombstones.
Dave Workman
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Harve Curry:
Would that include scenes of Russell and Delaney out on the prairie, uh, "mixing it up?" I've seen trailers that suggest a pretty good scene ended up on the cutting room floor.
Delaney was a stone fox in that film, gotta admit.
As for "Wyatt Earp," I really liked that film, too. I think it fleshed out the Earps as more than the heroes people tended to think them when Hugh O'Brien's series was on in the 1950s. I think Wyatt Earp had the better music score.
And Dennis Quaid's portrayal of Doc was phenomenal. I think Holliday's character steals the show in any of the Earp movies. Holliday might have been an interesting guy to know. Would have made a hell of an interview
"What's wrong with me? What have you got?! I'm dying of teburculosis. I sleep with the nastiest whore in Kansas. Everybody I know hates me...."
And when Costner simply replies.."Not everybody hates you" it sort of confirms his other statements, particularly about Doc's domestic situation. Great scene.
My only regret is that when the film came out on DVD, it was the original theatrical version, not the "director's cut" that I have on a dual VCR package, which was better and filled in a lot of blanks..
"When you find yourself in such a fight, hit first if you can, and when you do hit, hit to kill. Don't worry. You'll know when it comes to that. The Earps always know."
Would that include scenes of Russell and Delaney out on the prairie, uh, "mixing it up?" I've seen trailers that suggest a pretty good scene ended up on the cutting room floor.
Delaney was a stone fox in that film, gotta admit.
As for "Wyatt Earp," I really liked that film, too. I think it fleshed out the Earps as more than the heroes people tended to think them when Hugh O'Brien's series was on in the 1950s. I think Wyatt Earp had the better music score.
And Dennis Quaid's portrayal of Doc was phenomenal. I think Holliday's character steals the show in any of the Earp movies. Holliday might have been an interesting guy to know. Would have made a hell of an interview
"What's wrong with me? What have you got?! I'm dying of teburculosis. I sleep with the nastiest whore in Kansas. Everybody I know hates me...."
And when Costner simply replies.."Not everybody hates you" it sort of confirms his other statements, particularly about Doc's domestic situation. Great scene.
My only regret is that when the film came out on DVD, it was the original theatrical version, not the "director's cut" that I have on a dual VCR package, which was better and filled in a lot of blanks..
"When you find yourself in such a fight, hit first if you can, and when you do hit, hit to kill. Don't worry. You'll know when it comes to that. The Earps always know."
Rick O'Shea
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One of my favorite scenes from the movie, that to me is the perfect illustration of "mindset", is when one of the bad guys holds a gun on Wyatt.
Wyatt looks him in the eyes, then takes the gun out of his hand and whaps him with it.
I cracked up, had to pause the movie, then had to explain my reaction to my wife.
Wyatt looks him in the eyes, then takes the gun out of his hand and whaps him with it.
I cracked up, had to pause the movie, then had to explain my reaction to my wife.
Stump Water
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Daisy?
'When a new slang phrase is wafted to this country via New York, the warmth of its reception is somewhat startling. "Paralyze" has had its run and "you paralyze me" is an exclamation that is going quietly down to its grave. But the "daisy" business is undergoing a painful revival, for we believe it has more venerable origin than the other. Last night on the Oakland boat we heard a young man, a clerk of some kind, remark to a companion, "she's a daisy" and a third time the vealy youth unctuously ejaculated, "They are daisies, every one of them." A few moments afterwards a grave and severe looking gentleman evidentally a minister of the gospel, confided in a loud tone to another grave looking party, possibly a deacon, "I assure you it was a daisy sermon." On the other side of the deck a stock dealer was assuring a friend that "it was a daisy mine" while on the upper deck a group of fiar girls were "daisying" everything at such a rate that the commonplace ferry boat seemed like a flower garden. We should like to be informed by some professor of slang, the true meaning of the adjective. It is certainly the most accomodating one in the language, for it applies to everything." ---June 10, 1881 The San Francisco Exchange'.
'When a new slang phrase is wafted to this country via New York, the warmth of its reception is somewhat startling. "Paralyze" has had its run and "you paralyze me" is an exclamation that is going quietly down to its grave. But the "daisy" business is undergoing a painful revival, for we believe it has more venerable origin than the other. Last night on the Oakland boat we heard a young man, a clerk of some kind, remark to a companion, "she's a daisy" and a third time the vealy youth unctuously ejaculated, "They are daisies, every one of them." A few moments afterwards a grave and severe looking gentleman evidentally a minister of the gospel, confided in a loud tone to another grave looking party, possibly a deacon, "I assure you it was a daisy sermon." On the other side of the deck a stock dealer was assuring a friend that "it was a daisy mine" while on the upper deck a group of fiar girls were "daisying" everything at such a rate that the commonplace ferry boat seemed like a flower garden. We should like to be informed by some professor of slang, the true meaning of the adjective. It is certainly the most accomodating one in the language, for it applies to everything." ---June 10, 1881 The San Francisco Exchange'.
Uh, no. While the Republicans were anti-slavery, law and order types, the Democrats were anti-federalist, aggrarian types. Both sides had and have merit of their own, as well as substantial detractions. One side was not more 'liberal' or 'good' than the other.
Cosmoline
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They were the more liberal and radical of the two parties. The Dems were the more conservative and reactionary. Look up "radical Republicans" for more info.
Liberal is not the opposite of good, at least not in this context. You have to set all your modern notions aside.
Liberal is not the opposite of good, at least not in this context. You have to set all your modern notions aside.
Yeah, liberal and conservative did not mean the same thing then that they do now.
I liked Wyatt Earp. I thought Dennis Quaid played a better Doc Holiday character though I think that movie did a better job of fleshing out the characters.
IMHO, Tombstone was a flash in the pan rock star movie while Wyatt Earp was a bit more in depth and serious.
I liked Wyatt Earp. I thought Dennis Quaid played a better Doc Holiday character though I think that movie did a better job of fleshing out the characters.
IMHO, Tombstone was a flash in the pan rock star movie while Wyatt Earp was a bit more in depth and serious.
koja48
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Two other great lines:
"I've got one for each of you."
And . . .
"My hypocrisy only goes so far."
"I've got one for each of you."
And . . .
"My hypocrisy only goes so far."
Chongosuerte
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On a personal note...
My Great, Great, Great, Great-uncle was Old man Clanton.
Making Ike Clanton my 1st cousin, 4 times removed...or something like that.
Too bad he was an outlaw who got his butt kicked :banghead:
When I was in college I met a girl from Alaska who was kin to the Earps. Pretty interesting
And Kilmer as Doc is one of the best parts in movie history, IMHO.
My Great, Great, Great, Great-uncle was Old man Clanton.
Making Ike Clanton my 1st cousin, 4 times removed...or something like that.
Too bad he was an outlaw who got his butt kicked :banghead:
When I was in college I met a girl from Alaska who was kin to the Earps. Pretty interesting
And Kilmer as Doc is one of the best parts in movie history, IMHO.
Patriot-Brewer
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Trivia.....
How many of you all caught the "Crazy Train" reference?
no. 5150 at the same time Wyatt goes on a man hunt towards the end. I
love hidden crap in movies.
How many of you all caught the "Crazy Train" reference?
no. 5150 at the same time Wyatt goes on a man hunt towards the end. I
love hidden crap in movies.
Well, so long as this is about "Wyatt Earp" in the flicks.... I still think that the all time best portrayal of "Wyatt Earp," was by Henry Fonda in MY DARLING CLEMENTINE.
Of course that movie was about 25% history and 75% fantasy.... no matter, Henry Fonda was still the best "Wyatt Earp!"
L.W.
L.W.
Of course that movie was about 25% history and 75% fantasy.... no matter, Henry Fonda was still the best "Wyatt Earp!"
L.W.
L.W.
Dave Workman
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Not Fonda his Earp
Naw, Henry fonda was not the best Wyatt, IMHO. It's kind of a toss up between Kostner and Russell, IMNSHO, and Earp has been portrayed by a lot of people.
Joel McRae, Burt Lancaster, Hugh O'Brian, James Stewart, Bruce Boxleitner, Will Geer; heck, didn't Tom Mix even play Earp???
Naw, Henry fonda was not the best Wyatt, IMHO. It's kind of a toss up between Kostner and Russell, IMNSHO, and Earp has been portrayed by a lot of people.
Joel McRae, Burt Lancaster, Hugh O'Brian, James Stewart, Bruce Boxleitner, Will Geer; heck, didn't Tom Mix even play Earp???
koja48
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I agree with Dave (but we're both from WA State). Russell, #1.
"You gonna do somethin' or just stand there and bleed?"
"You gonna do somethin' or just stand there and bleed?"
Stauble
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if recolect correctly, i believe that i read somehere that Doc's father was in the confederate army
XLMiguel
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FWIW, there's a good article in this month's AMerican Hangunner by Mas Ayoub recounting the gunfight from a historical perspective and how teh fight scene was not controlled afterwards, so there remains a good bit of ambiguity as to how it all really went down . . .
Pumpkinheaver
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I liked the movie pretty well. Val Kilmer's portrayal of Doc was pretty good I thought.
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