Too many unsafe NEW gun owners

[Jvandenhaus]

All of the new shooters I take out are are mostly fine, though I don't make it a habit to foster new shooters.

It's the veteran shooters that scare the bunnies out of me, our local brand of idiot is known as the COAR15 club. Their hazards are institutionalized.

 

[Hoppy590]

If the election has galvanized them to get off the fence and take a stance I say we should welcome them.

except they are not not making a stance. they are just getting their EBR's and Hicaps while they can. and its not limited to new shooters.

 

[rbernie]

So teach them to value their new posessions such that they WILL fight for them when the time comes.

The first step is ownership. The next step is internalization. The final step is activism.

Get them on that road.

 

[rainbowbob]

Hell, I don't even let people slide for brass that hits me...

Question: I'm a revolver guy. Is it even possible for the bottom-feeder in the bay to my left to avoid hitting me with brass?

Seriously, I thought it was something I just had to put up with.

I mean, what can you say that would make a difference?

 

[rbernie]

Not much. I generally just step back until they empty the mag and then take my turn.

There's no reason to be a butt everywhere you go in life, just because you can. So I choose not to.

 

[Hoppy590]

So teach them to value their new posessions such that they WILL fight for them when the time comes.

valuing a non heirloom possession is shallow and financially based. they must value the inalienable right, even if they never own a gun. this is a far greater mission, and one iv been on for many years. sadly it takes far more for a person to understand, and protect a God/Allah/Yahweh/Vishnu/anything/nothing given right that no man, no law, no deity can revoke.

 

[psyopspec]

Like it's said in Psychological Operations, changing someone's actions is nice, but if you change their attitude you'll have a longer lasting effect.

 

[rbernie]

they must value the inalienable right, even if they never own a gun.

But they must first UNDERSTAND the right. They don't get that knowledge from their education and most do not get that from their upbringing.

The only way for them to get it is via interaction with guns and the gun community.

All of us started from somewhere other than where we are right now, and progressed to this point. How else do you propose that they start their learning process, if not via shooting and interactions with the gun community?

 

[melikesguns]

I no longer visit a range. I made my own on My in-laws land. I live in Redneck City, USA. So my local range experience has been everything from homeboys with Hi-points doing the sideways 50 cent clack, clack ****, to rednecks that bring a bag of beer bottles to shoot up. It is pathetic. I have even witnessed full auto. weaponry owned by a man I know for a fact has done Federal time!! Of course it's not like he cops will do anything, they probably sold the guy the full auto. Coruptin runs amuck. Just google Cocke County, corruption

 

[dobrzemetal]

I haven't had so much of a problem with the adults, its really the kids who run around the range with .22 rilfes cocked and locked muzzle sweeping everyone.

 

[benEzra]

valuing a non heirloom possession is shallow and financially based.

Not if that non-heirloom possession is closely connected with one's conception of what freedom means.

My guns are worth a lot more to me than their market value. It is not about dollars and cents.

And I dare say that most of the people buying guns now, at the panic prices, are not doing so for dollars-and-cents reasons; otherwise they wouldn't be buying at a price peak, IMO.

 

[Hoppy590]

Not if that non-heirloom possession is closely connected with one's conception of what freedom means.

My guns are worth a lot more to me than their market value. It is not about dollars and cents.

And I dare say that most of the people buying guns now, at the panic prices, are not doing so for dollars-and-cents reasons; otherwise they wouldn't be buying at a price peak, IMO.

well i said a guns value is shallow, i meant that in comparison to the right. meaning my AR is just an object. if it were broken or destroyed, oh well, get me my check book, il buy another one.

i think your a little optimistic if you think this is the "price peak" it could easily go up in the coming years. even if prices dont go up or some of these people armt doing it to resell, there are still alot who are "just getting one before its banned" with no care about the generations who follow us, or the rights that are being trampled