Steve Marshall
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I can't shoot paper, but if it's got hair...dead nuts.
Gun Owner pet peeves
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jimmyraythomason
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Hmmm. cost is no longer a factor in accuracy. Todays Steven's (relatively cheap)Model 200 can compete with yesterdays customs quite well.
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blue_ridge
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I wasn't talking about a cant. Nor was I talking about non-dominant hand shooting. I was talking about 90 degree sideways gangster style shooting that puts the line of bore about 4 inches off to the side from the line of sight. Not much accuracy happening from that comical, amateur technique.
The people who criticize me for shooting a .300 winchester for hunting. Telling me that it is way to much gun. Then the same folks say that a .380 acp is way to small of a gun for CCW. So I guess I need a .22 lr for elk and a .50 AE for carry.
LeonCarr
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Posers.
I can't stand somebody that proclaims they have been to the circus and seen the elephant (the absolute worst are the people that say they have been in the military and never have), say they can do all kinds of fancy shooting, and never take you up on going to the range to prove it, or go to the range and can't hit the broadside of a barn.
The greatest satisfaction I have as a shooter is beating the pants off of a poser at the range. I know that sounds self centered, but posers are liars and I hate liars.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
I can't stand somebody that proclaims they have been to the circus and seen the elephant (the absolute worst are the people that say they have been in the military and never have), say they can do all kinds of fancy shooting, and never take you up on going to the range to prove it, or go to the range and can't hit the broadside of a barn.
The greatest satisfaction I have as a shooter is beating the pants off of a poser at the range. I know that sounds self centered, but posers are liars and I hate liars.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
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add me to that list too, i have a shotty and a springer
CooperThunder
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My pet peeve? -- my husband's gun in his den on top of his airplane magazines. Don't know what it is doing there...pretending to be a rock? Yesterday he was fitting his shoulder harness on and I asked him if he is going to carry that day (he's going to our hangar) and he said someone might see him with his gun and report him for brandishing? How stupid is that??!!?!?!?!!!!???? It is freaking cold! He wears a vest everyday!
My pet peeve is the NC law prohibits Concealed-Carry in places that "charge-admission".
Alcohol sold-and-consumed, government buildings, dope-smokin' hippie concerts, even sporting-events... that sort of prohibition I can sort-of understand, but what's the logic with the overarching "charges-admission" prohibition? A theater parking-lot at night in the "city" with my family is probably the most vulnerable spot I ever find myself unarmed in.
That's my peeve.
Les
Alcohol sold-and-consumed, government buildings, dope-smokin' hippie concerts, even sporting-events... that sort of prohibition I can sort-of understand, but what's the logic with the overarching "charges-admission" prohibition? A theater parking-lot at night in the "city" with my family is probably the most vulnerable spot I ever find myself unarmed in.
That's my peeve.
Les
I can't stand the gun owners that constantly talk about building homemade silencers, making bombs and converting semi automatics to full auto.
The next worst group are the ones that are always talking about, "Shooting someone trying to break in on the front porch and then dragging them inside."
The next biggest pet peeve are the experts that don't have any idea what they are talking about. There are many different guns and they can be broken down into a lot of different catagories. No one can be an expert on everything but some gun owners are still talking about being able to carry Glocks through metal detectors and how you have to keep the hammer resting on an empty chamber when carrying a revolver.
The next worst group are the ones that are always talking about, "Shooting someone trying to break in on the front porch and then dragging them inside."
The next biggest pet peeve are the experts that don't have any idea what they are talking about. There are many different guns and they can be broken down into a lot of different catagories. No one can be an expert on everything but some gun owners are still talking about being able to carry Glocks through metal detectors and how you have to keep the hammer resting on an empty chamber when carrying a revolver.
Fear not, children... you too shall be relegated to irrelevancy IMO!
Now eat your pablum and don't put beans in your ears.
Seriously (OK, maybe not so)... a peeve(possibly a peevette)... the fact that Dremel Tools can be bought "over the counter" - Don't you think they should be sold by "prescription" from an accredited gunsmith who will undertake the supervision of the use of said Dremel Tool?
blue_ridge
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kind of re-stating what I said in another thread, but another pet peave is anti-gun politicians who either have had their own carry permit (Diane Feinstein) or have body guards to protect them.
This is a great thread.
1. When people post about how their weapon shoots "minute of bad guy" or "minute of pie plate", or "minute of _______." Just use minute of angle (if that's how your groups end up), and if you can get all your shots on a pie plate, say "I can keep the groups from my WASR-10 on a pie plate at 50 yards." Or something like that. It was funny the first time I saw it used, and that was a long time ago.
2. When people mention the "turning cover into concealment" thing, like "I think the .308 is better than the 5.56 because it turns cover into concealment." You've shown us that you know the diference between cover and concealment, good for you.
I also have to agree with the guys who can't stand "Shotty, Remmy, Mossy, etc.," and the guy who mentioned it is improper to say .45 Long Colt. ITS .45 COLT!!!
1. When people post about how their weapon shoots "minute of bad guy" or "minute of pie plate", or "minute of _______." Just use minute of angle (if that's how your groups end up), and if you can get all your shots on a pie plate, say "I can keep the groups from my WASR-10 on a pie plate at 50 yards." Or something like that. It was funny the first time I saw it used, and that was a long time ago.
2. When people mention the "turning cover into concealment" thing, like "I think the .308 is better than the 5.56 because it turns cover into concealment." You've shown us that you know the diference between cover and concealment, good for you.
I also have to agree with the guys who can't stand "Shotty, Remmy, Mossy, etc.," and the guy who mentioned it is improper to say .45 Long Colt. ITS .45 COLT!!!
bigalexe
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To the OP
None of this has anything to do with RKBA and is completely Off-Topic
#3: Hunters who shoot many deer
Answer: In Michigan you can get 7 licenses, as far as I'm concerned if you aren't poaching its fine to shoot all 7 every year. Also hunters can donate meat they don't want to food banks, so shooting many deer can be very beneficial to everyone.
#4: Hunters who shoot at anything
Answer: Agreed, this violates the rule of knowing your target and what is beyond it however the problem is broader than hunters. I also hate people who shoot without proper backstops in their backyard.
#5: Hunters going into town with visible deer
Answer: Going into town with a 12-point rack on your car is a matter of pride. As far as going into a town with blood/guts on you, sometimes its unavoidable and sometimes guys are just on their way home and wanted to stop at the gas station for coffee; unless its excessive learn to deal with it. Lastly people brag about deer, they brag about trucks, they brag about big-screen TV's and are so entitled to; I suggest you learn to deal with people and realize unless they are talking about blood rituals or something its perfectly within their right to be happy for an achievement.
Addendum: The thing that annoys me is lack of proper terminology. Examples are "Shotty," "Nine," "Clip" when used improperly, and "Civilian M16." Also A-K when used to refer to a gun that might be semi-auto and looks sorta foreign. Most real gun owners don't do any of this though. Only habit that annoys me is my friend who always sets down his unloaded shotgun (when hunting) with the action closed.
None of this has anything to do with RKBA and is completely Off-Topic
#3: Hunters who shoot many deer
Answer: In Michigan you can get 7 licenses, as far as I'm concerned if you aren't poaching its fine to shoot all 7 every year. Also hunters can donate meat they don't want to food banks, so shooting many deer can be very beneficial to everyone.
#4: Hunters who shoot at anything
Answer: Agreed, this violates the rule of knowing your target and what is beyond it however the problem is broader than hunters. I also hate people who shoot without proper backstops in their backyard.
#5: Hunters going into town with visible deer
Answer: Going into town with a 12-point rack on your car is a matter of pride. As far as going into a town with blood/guts on you, sometimes its unavoidable and sometimes guys are just on their way home and wanted to stop at the gas station for coffee; unless its excessive learn to deal with it. Lastly people brag about deer, they brag about trucks, they brag about big-screen TV's and are so entitled to; I suggest you learn to deal with people and realize unless they are talking about blood rituals or something its perfectly within their right to be happy for an achievement.
Addendum: The thing that annoys me is lack of proper terminology. Examples are "Shotty," "Nine," "Clip" when used improperly, and "Civilian M16." Also A-K when used to refer to a gun that might be semi-auto and looks sorta foreign. Most real gun owners don't do any of this though. Only habit that annoys me is my friend who always sets down his unloaded shotgun (when hunting) with the action closed.
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ReadyontheRight
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".45 Colt" vs. ".45 Long Colt"
If you switch ".45 Colt" and "Colt .45" (which many people still use to describe a 1911), wouldn't the phrase ".45 Long Colt" be useful in distinguishing the .45acp from the ... um ... I only know it as a ... ".45 Long Colt"?
And I guess I peeved some people off by using ".45" instead of "45". This is difficult for me to understand the "peeve" issue.
Isn't it, in reality ".45"? If it was actually a "45", wouldn't that mean a 45 inch gun? I guess it could be 45mm. Still not accurate. More power to ya, but each would be kind of hard to conceal.
Sadly. Peeves abound. Good thing we have a First Amendment to our Cnstitution.
"Fire!". The theater was not crowded. And there really was a fire.
If you switch ".45 Colt" and "Colt .45" (which many people still use to describe a 1911), wouldn't the phrase ".45 Long Colt" be useful in distinguishing the .45acp from the ... um ... I only know it as a ... ".45 Long Colt"?
And I guess I peeved some people off by using ".45" instead of "45". This is difficult for me to understand the "peeve" issue.
Isn't it, in reality ".45"? If it was actually a "45", wouldn't that mean a 45 inch gun? I guess it could be 45mm. Still not accurate. More power to ya, but each would be kind of hard to conceal.
Sadly. Peeves abound. Good thing we have a First Amendment to our Cnstitution.
"Fire!". The theater was not crowded. And there really was a fire.
ReadyontheRight
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What a great quote.
ReadyontheRight
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I can see where you are coming from, and I have the same issues at my deer camp.
Don't give up on them though. Use the anti-AWB arguments to stop any talk of AWB-2.
Ohhh got another one.
SHTF and EOTWAWKI threads. I don't know why but these things drive me up the wall. The fact that a decent search will turn up literally hundreds of threads, most of them locked, might have something to do with it. Not saying it is not a good thing to have a plan, but most of these thread dissolve into some Wolverine fantasy and as such get locked.
Anything vs. Anything thread for any purpose other than a head to head "scientific" comparison. We all have firearms that we love that others may not. There is no perfect firearm, but some come close. If an AK works for you fine, an AR or FAL, then fine. Heck if a Arabesque Flintlock works for you knock yourself out. But do not get all pissy when you start a "Matchlocks Are the Greatest Firearm Evers" thread and people point out the short comings of that platform.
SHTF and EOTWAWKI threads. I don't know why but these things drive me up the wall. The fact that a decent search will turn up literally hundreds of threads, most of them locked, might have something to do with it. Not saying it is not a good thing to have a plan, but most of these thread dissolve into some Wolverine fantasy and as such get locked.
Anything vs. Anything thread for any purpose other than a head to head "scientific" comparison. We all have firearms that we love that others may not. There is no perfect firearm, but some come close. If an AK works for you fine, an AR or FAL, then fine. Heck if a Arabesque Flintlock works for you knock yourself out. But do not get all pissy when you start a "Matchlocks Are the Greatest Firearm Evers" thread and people point out the short comings of that platform.
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Sam1911
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Hmmm... worst pet peeve:
Stupid, mindless prohibitions that serve only to placate nervous folks who worry about things they don't understand.
e.g: restrictions on where a law-abiding adult can possess a weapon (schools, bars, funerals, concerts, church, etc.), magazine capacity limits, the NFA limits on SBRs and SBSs, lists of "evil" features, laws against carrying certain kinds of knives when carrying firearms is perfectly legal, laws prohibiting "open" carry, and so forth.
Second worst pet peeve...though only slightly behind the first: gun owners who are apologists for such rules and restrictions and are willing to stand up and argue (or VOTE!) in favor of them, against all logic. Gunnie folks who've swallowed the lies and stupidity for so long that they'll make up reasons why they should be so. :banghead:
-Sam
Stupid, mindless prohibitions that serve only to placate nervous folks who worry about things they don't understand.
e.g: restrictions on where a law-abiding adult can possess a weapon (schools, bars, funerals, concerts, church, etc.), magazine capacity limits, the NFA limits on SBRs and SBSs, lists of "evil" features, laws against carrying certain kinds of knives when carrying firearms is perfectly legal, laws prohibiting "open" carry, and so forth.
Second worst pet peeve...though only slightly behind the first: gun owners who are apologists for such rules and restrictions and are willing to stand up and argue (or VOTE!) in favor of them, against all logic. Gunnie folks who've swallowed the lies and stupidity for so long that they'll make up reasons why they should be so. :banghead:
-Sam
ny32182
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The phrase "it is a solution looking for a problem" as applied to any new development that comes to market. If something doesn't appeal to you, great. That doesn't mean it doesn't work best for someone else, or that it wouldn't work best for you if you were more open to evaluating new ideas.
Biggest pet peeve... Elitists. When your done learning your done. I like to listen to everybody including crotchety old men, and boastfull hunters, and off kilter vets. I (I mean we) can learn a lot by just listening. I am probably preaching to the choir here, but, I detest the elitists who will talk down about a firearm they have never owned, or a technique they have never tried. Choosing instead, to form strong opinions an hide behind spending an exhorbidant amount of money on the firearms they tout the merits of. One of my pet peeves is obviously not run on sentences.
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3. Deer hunters who act as if they are entitled to shoot as many deer as possible, on anyone's land whether they have permission or not.
4. Hunters who shoot at anything that moves. If you don't know 100% that you are shooting at a real deer, you've got no business pulling the trigger.
5. Hunters that go into town with a) a deer hanging off the tailgate for all to see b) go into a store/restaurant with blood on their clothes c) go into a store bragging about the five deer they shot this morning. Many people do not understand the difference between good, safe respectable hunters and the un-safe ones if they are around town bragging about it openly.
None of this has anything to do with RKBA and is completely Off-Topic
I'll say it again. I'm a hunter myself. I like hunting, I like hunters. BUT, because hunting is a gun sport it is a very important aspect of how the general voting public sees gun ownership. I would go so far as to say, gun hunters are THE most common and visible representation of gun owners that the general public uses to form its opinion. So, I personally think it is VERY important how hunters present themselves in public.
The whole " stopping to get gas and coffee" thing is different. C'mon, I really think this is common sense and you probably agree with me, but you want to split hairs because you have taken my comments personally. I stop at a country gas station on the way home from hunting too. It is also a check station so no one there is going to raise an eyebrow if there's a little blood on my pants. If I didn't have a choice but to stop at a gas station in town, I probably would skip the coffee and just pay at the pump. I've seen full camo'd hunters go into a Denny's in town where soccer moms are eating with their children. Tallking loud about how one of them shot three times and missed before he almost pulled the triger a fourth time as his buddy took chase of the deer on his four wheeler. Real nice. It's a free country, you can do what you want. But don't come complaining 10 years from now when those Soccer Moms vote for National gun registration because their image of a gun owner is the bloody camo hunter guy who came into Denny's bragging about his exploits. Common sense. You represent gun owners if you wear camo, blaze orange, open carry, have hunting or gun stickers on your vehicle or talk about guns and hunting loudly enough for people to over hear you. If you don't give any thought to how you sound or look, you are losing us votes down the road, plain and simple.
3. Deer hunters who act as if they are entitled to shoot as many deer as possible, on anyone's land whether they have permission or not.
4. Hunters who shoot at anything that moves. If you don't know 100% that you are shooting at a real deer, you've got no business pulling the trigger.
5. Hunters that go into town with a) a deer hanging off the tailgate for all to see b) go into a store/restaurant with blood on their clothes c) go into a store bragging about the five deer they shot this morning. Many people do not understand the difference between good, safe respectable hunters and the un-safe ones if they are around town bragging about it openly.
None of this has anything to do with RKBA and is completely Off-Topic
I'll say it again. I'm a hunter myself. I like hunting, I like hunters. BUT, because hunting is a gun sport it is a very important aspect of how the general voting public sees gun ownership. I would go so far as to say, gun hunters are THE most common and visible representation of gun owners that the general public uses to form its opinion. So, I personally think it is VERY important how hunters present themselves in public.
The whole " stopping to get gas and coffee" thing is different. C'mon, I really think this is common sense and you probably agree with me, but you want to split hairs because you have taken my comments personally. I stop at a country gas station on the way home from hunting too. It is also a check station so no one there is going to raise an eyebrow if there's a little blood on my pants. If I didn't have a choice but to stop at a gas station in town, I probably would skip the coffee and just pay at the pump. I've seen full camo'd hunters go into a Denny's in town where soccer moms are eating with their children. Tallking loud about how one of them shot three times and missed before he almost pulled the triger a fourth time as his buddy took chase of the deer on his four wheeler. Real nice. It's a free country, you can do what you want. But don't come complaining 10 years from now when those Soccer Moms vote for National gun registration because their image of a gun owner is the bloody camo hunter guy who came into Denny's bragging about his exploits. Common sense. You represent gun owners if you wear camo, blaze orange, open carry, have hunting or gun stickers on your vehicle or talk about guns and hunting loudly enough for people to over hear you. If you don't give any thought to how you sound or look, you are losing us votes down the road, plain and simple.
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