Trading in a .45 for a 10mm

[Chip Dixon]

Geez did this thread get ugly fast

All I have to add is if you have 1911 .45 that works reliably, you enjoy shooting, and is paid for, DON'T SELL IT. You will regret it, as you could spend much more one day trying to get another reliable 1911 .45 that you like.

Just save up for the 10mm. That way you won't be one of the 10000 people on here who post "my 1911" when asked what gun they wished they never sold.

My personal rule is if the gun works, it's a keeper. I wouldn't have bought it if I didn't like it otherwise in the first place.

Best Regards,

Chip Dixon

 

[patentnonsense]

This thread sounds like a bunch of under-driving-age kids arguing about Ford v. Chevy! There's lots of good info about 10mm over at http://www.10mmtalk.com/ , including lists of the numerous current and OOP models.

Which gun: The Glock 20 is a great starter - I hate the look of Glocks, but the 20 is very comfortable to shoot (though supposedly not good for reloaders). CDNN has G20 police trade-ins right now for 300-some, and that would be a good choice for trying out 10mm. My favorite 10mm is the Megastar, but they're very scarce. I like Dan Wesson too, if single-stack is OK for you. EAA (Tanfoglio) Witness is a great bargain (and I'll probably get one), but some of them seem to have had the sights misaligned from the factory. I had a 1006 and sold it (seemed solid, but I just didn't like it), and there are lots of them and their derivatives (shorter barrel and/or DAO) on gunsamerica etc. The Colt models are not as overbuilt, but they feel nice and classic. You can find Springfield Arms Omegas around sometimes, and they're very interesting, but you should plan on doing some tweaking.

One of the big points of 10mm is you can get drop-in barrels for 9x25 for the common pieces, and 9x25 is a HOT round - 2000+ fps in the lighter weights. See http://www.doubletapammo.com/ for more info.

Ammo cost is a problem, and the big-name factory ammo is kinda wimpy - but http://www.texas-ammo.com , doubletap and others have full-speed stuff.

Hope this helps!

 

[Big Bad Wolf]

I always love the .45acp vs 10mm debate.

My question to the .45 lovers/10mm bashers is if the extra performance obtained from the 10mm is not important and meaningless for real world use then why do you always compare performance of your .45's from the +p variety only?

Also 10mmTalk is a great forum for 10mm lovers, judging by it's almost 1000 members in the 4 months it has been up I would say there is some interest left maximum auto performance.

 

[will919]

I own and enjoy both the .45 acp and the 10mm

 

[Camp Cook]

I have a Colt Delta Elite and G20 10mm's that I use for protection in the bush against animals. I wouldn't even consider a 45 ACP with any of it's available loads for this kind of carry.

I use my own reloads for this purpose which push 180gr, 190gr or 200gr bullets @ 1280fps to 1320fps. For me the 10mm does everything that I need from a semi-auto handgun. When these guns are not enough I switch to my SRH 454 Casull with 360gr C/P hard cast bullets @ 1520fps.

If I where to only carry in town I would be happy with the10mm's as well but would be hard pressed not to go to the 40S&W, 45GAP, or the 45ACP. All of these cartridges will do the job if you can do yours. Which is what I think most every one in this thread missed.

 

[Duramaximum]

EAA Tanfoglio Witness 10mm is the best 10mm out there is my opinion. My friend bought one that we were playing with at the range. Not even trying, I was getting about a 4" group, dead on at 25 yds. The gunsmith swears that it is $400 for an $800 handgun. Unbelievably good gun. The .45 Auto, especially in Kimber, is awesome (Marine Force Recon swears by them) but the 10mm left a bigger exit wound in the 2x4 we were shooting at. The best part about the .45 Auto is more versatile ammo and it has been around longer and is a great staple weapon. I heard the reason the gov't didn't adopt the 10mm was because it went throught the target instead of dumping all of it's engergy in it. Don't quote me on that, I could be wrong.