(UK) Knife amnesty nets 17,700 weapons

[sterling180]

No,they are not having a laugh,at the populations folly-at all.The government,believes that we don't need weapons and do this,because they think that it is the right and moral,thing to do.They don't want people to die,from combat knives or guns-that they think have no place in our society.

If you watch Blair carefully,his voice is very emotional on these issues and there seems to be almost a tear in his eyes.I noticed this after the Dunblane tragedy,10 years ago.

 

[Zedicus]

Is this much of a surprise coming from a Country in which if a Panicky Busybody calls the cops on a Kid playing in their yard with one of these

And said cops send an Armed Response unit (UK Swat Team) to arrest the kid and their parents at the point of MP5's (safety's off & set on auto) ?

Some will no doubt accuse me of spewing BS on this & I won't blame them, I saw it happen with my own eyes and I even had trouble believing it after seeing it happen in person...

 

[The Real Hawkeye]

No,they are not having a laugh,at the populations folly-at all.The government,believes that we don't need weapons and do this,because they think that it is the right and moral,thing to do.They don't want people to die,from combat knives or guns-that they think have no place in our society.

If you watch Blair carefully,his voice is very emotional on these issues and there seems to be almost a tear in his eyes.I noticed this after the Dunblane tragedy,10 years ago.

No doubt they are all true believers. I was referring to the brigands having a good laugh. They are the wolves of British society, and the government is making their predation efforts on the sheeple that much easier with laws like this. I'm sure that the predators both find it amusing, and appreciate that their jobs are being made easier and safer (for them) by your government.

 

[Pilgrim]

I suppose if you go to a restaurant in Great Britain your steak or roast comes out pre cut into bite sized pieces?

Pilgrim

 

[romma]

Wait Till

The British people wake up one day to realize they are just a tax paying cattle herd. And the government witholds their "feed". Absolutely no means to stand up to tyranny is a terrifying notion indeed. I pray it never gets that way here. That is why the world needs americans with gun rights more than ever. WE are about the only ones left in the world. And once we are out of the way,, there will be no slowing down the machine of world-wide slavery.

 

[Dmack_901]

I was there just a week ago on vacation. This place was "enlightening". There were speeding cameras everywhere, but lines on the road with allerted drivers to slow down. Cameras were everywhere, and no one seemed to mind. But more importantly, everything was god awfully expensive. The conversion rate wouldn't have been too bad if we didn't have to pay a %18 VAT tax on about everything we bought. And just think everyone has to pay an additonal %10-%40 income tax, and god knows what else. And that's ignoring the extra costs of their protectionist, EU food "saftey" schemes.

The British people wake up one day to realize they are just a tax paying cattle herd.

I'd say they're more slaves than cattle. The governmnet garnishes such a large portion of wages through the several taxes that when measuring pay in terms of disposable income, you find that they arn't truely payed at all. The money is just taken and used to provide for their "wellbeing"(like room and food for slaves). They're just left with enough to lie to themselves with; you know, "Get yourself a TV and keep occupied."

But getting back on track; I don't understand the logic...

If a knife carried in self defence has a significant change of being used against its carrier. Then wouldn't that mean we should better arm criminals, in order to give the victims a fighting chance?

 

[sterling180]

I suppose if you go to a restaurant in Great Britain your steak or roast comes out pre cut into bite sized pieces?

No,not quite.Steak,carving and dinner knives are used for the purpose of cutting meat and vegtables.It's knives that are used for combat that are being targeted,because at the end of the day,you can't really ban kitchen and table knives-can you? A combat knife is used to kill,says the antis and even The Daily Sport newspaper,ran an anti-knife campaign-to rid the country of combat knives.They also ran a similar campaign to rid the country of pistols and other guns-after Dunblane.

Blair attended the Queens birthday meal,yesterday and so did our former PM John Major.Those two anger me,because of what they did to the UK pistol-shooters-over Dunblane.All those policies were only intended,to gain votes-for elections.

I don't believe it is about control,I believe that Labour are a nanny-state,that truely believes that weapons shouldn't be allowed.If they ban bolt-action rifles,then guess who will not be amused? The Queen,that is who.I don't think that Queenie,will like Blair for that-after all Holland and Holland make bolt-action rifles for the Royal family.

 

[Cromlech]

Methinks Queenie will have to set the Corgis on him if he tries that.

Those of you in America, take note, if you haven't already.

It is possible for things to get worse for you, just look what it's like here. Of course it would be a much slower transition in America, no politician in their right mind would up and say "Owning firearms is to be prohibited.". Instead they will use increasingly strict new legislation and trading laws to wear down your RKBA year after year, until you arrive at the U.K situation.

Of course, most of the posters on here are aware of that. So don't let it happen guys!

 

[agricola]

Is this much of a surprise coming from a Country in which if a Panicky Busybody calls the cops on a Kid playing in their yard with one of these

And said cops send an Armed Response unit (UK Swat Team) to arrest the kid and their parents at the point of MP5's (safety's off & set on auto) ?

Some will no doubt accuse me of spewing BS on this & I won't blame them, I saw it happen with my own eyes and I even had trouble believing it after seeing it happen in person...

I dont blame anyone who doesnt believe you about it either, given your track record on similar stories.

 

[Nightfall]

Does anybody there really believe that combat knives are more lethal than a steak knife? Sharp 'n' pointy is sharp 'n' pointy.

Then again, people over here believe that a rifle banned under the AWB is much more lethal than one not.

 

[Cromlech]

Nightfall wrote: Does anybody there really believe that combat knives are more lethal than a steak knife?

In reality, we all know that a knife designed to cut flesh and bone, be it a buchers knife or a combat knife is just as deadly. However, combat knives fall into the same category as the Evil Black Rifle. They look like the knife a killer would use, despite the price tag for decent ones being £20 (Glock knife) up to £150 (Recon Bowie et cetera).

All the thugs in this country favour cheap folding knives and cutlery. Easy to get, cheap to buy.

 

[Kurush]

When knives are outlawed... only outlaws will eat solid food

 

[jazurell]

Now that the knives and guns are all gone, guess they can fire all the police....they should no longer be needed with the weapons all given to the government.:banghead:

 

[sterling180]

Now that the knives and guns are all gone, guess they can fire all the police....they should no longer be needed with the weapons all given to the government.

Knives and guns haven't all been made illegal and destroyed.After Hungerford,most assault weapons and all sporting pump and semi-auto centrefire rifles-and after Dunblane,most types of pistols and revolvers.In saying this a .22 rimfire version,can still be legally obtained on a firearms license.

In 1988/1989,flick knives were banned in the UK,but Bowies,K-bars,machete's and other types of fighting and survival knives are still legal,and can be bought over the counter,in any military/outdoor shop,firearms dealers and can be bought over the internet and mailed to the front door-in the post.

So,it is pointless to say that all guns and knives are banned,in the UK.Only most assault-weapons and handguns are.

 

[jazurell]

Hmmm....did I use "banned"....
Just saying that the nanny state laws will not eliminate crime....only will make people feel good and get re-elected.

 

[Zedicus]

agricola: I don't blame anyone who doesn't believe you about it either, given your track record on similar stories.

Gee, that coming from you means...oh let's see (0+0 = 0 ) basically No Difference.

Track Record? what Track Record? Oh! You mean the things I posted in the past that actualy Happened, that the UK does not want known, and you did not bother to actually research.

Why not try researching something before Dismissing it as so much nonsense?
You claim to be a London cop so you will undoubtedly have access to Records of things that even the Mainstram Media won't, so look it up!.

In this Instance I can only describe an Event which I witnessed in Person, I never saw it in any Civilian news Report (Newspaper or TV) so I have no proof other than what I saw with my own eyes.

In all honesty, the attitude which you are taking is Reminiscent of a mix of 2 things, the 4 Monkeys, and the Government agents in Movies and books who use lines like "You Never Saw this And I Was Never here!"

Either way, the fact remains that I saw what I saw, I don't care in the slightest if some people prefer to not believe it without any investigation into it's validity/credibility, in a attempt at self Delusion, that's up to them.

 

[Malice]

"Others are just rude and would shun you-because they are biased towards shooting-sports and towards knife ownership.They think that you would be the next Fred West,John Duffy,Jeremy Bamber,Ian Huntley and Daniel Gonzales,because you like knives."

This kills me. It really baffles me. KNIFE OWNERSHIP?

***?

The fact that "knife ownership" is a useable term... I.... uh.... ugh...

 

[Phil123]

Hey im new to these forums and find it an interesting read. I'm from Northern Ireland, and being part of the UK we have the same laws on guns and knifes. I find it an absolute joke here in the UK... we are charged double for everything and we cant do anything.. hell we may as well be communist wouldn't change a god damn thing. This knife thing aint gonna make the country safer, dont be stupid. We need our laws changed, this country is back to front from chavs (white trash Americans call em i think) If guns where legal here, damn right i'd carry one for protection. Stupid assed government making it easier for criminals to do things, someone breaks into your house what do you do? "Stop ... please dont steal that oh nooo oh nooooo dont please" then call the police and wait 2 days for them to phone you back.

 

[ACP230]

Talkin' Knife Banning Rag.

"Come on all you big strong British men,
Time to turn all your pen knives in,
Tony Blair's in a terrible spot,
So all blade owners--hand over the lot.
Don't fuss and quarrel, don't be cross,
Just turn all your knives over to us..."

(With apologies to Country Joe And The Fish.)

I used to have a certain, grudging respect for the Brits....

 

[G36-UK]

This kills me. It really baffles me. KNIFE OWNERSHIP?

***?

The fact that "knife ownership" is a useable term... I.... uh.... ugh...

I think he means the ornate blades that some licensed shops sell. It seems most people think of blade owners as "big mad mental chib" people.

I'd like to point out that the Airsoft community has been on the recieving end of a few ARU/SO19/CO19 encounters, especially when a neighbour spots an enthusiast "plinking" in their back garden, resulting in a great deal of hassle for the person which includes the equipment being confiscated for ballistics tests, at least in some of the incidents I'm aware of.

 

[leadcounsel]

The Brits

I find it hard to reconcile this from the Brits.

I have lived in Scotland and have known many Brits. I would characterize the Brits as being very intelligent, hard working, tough people. They are always willing to stand up for themselves, what is right, and what is sensible, based on my experience.

I have several close British friends too. I just don't understand how a group of intelligent proud people can be nannied like this.

 

[Cromlech]

Hey there, leadcounsel. I understand what you mean, it's disturbing to see the extent that the wannabe-socialists that run this Country will go to.

 

[Phil123]

I really hate the UK's laws on self defence, if someone breaks into your house you can basically do f.a. Was like a farmer who shot two people who broke into his house, one died and he got sent to prison.

 

[leadcounsel]

It's interesting to note that with their BAN on guns, they still have a very high gun crime rate!

It'll be interesting to watch their knife crime rate soar too after this BAN...

How can such relatively intelligent people be SO BAD at policy making in this area...

Oh wait, it's probably because they still have a QUEEN...

 

[motorep]

All together now..."Baaaaa, Baaaaaa, Baaaaa...":banghead: