chuckusaret
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Wrong color, if the vest was black the mall ninja's would eat them up.
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This is one of the things that continues to baffle me about THR. I'll see threads about how much ammo people keep stocked, how many mags they keep loaded at home, etc. But then someone brings up a vest with ammo pouches to put those loaded mags in and it's mall ninja. What's the point of having 7 + loaded mags for your AR if you don't have pouches to carry them in? Sure you could always stick them in a backpack, but that makes reloading much, much slower. You could put them in your cargo pockets, but reloading is still slower and your pants are way too heavy. (I've carried 3 or 4 loaded STANAG mags in my cargo pockets before and it wasn't comfortable, plus they banged me in my kneecaps when I tried to run.)
The two times I could think of when an average joe might want such a vest with ammo pouches, med kit, camel back, etc. would be for one of those carbine classes I see threads about from time to time (like this one: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=278688). The other time would be if you actually had to act in a militia role; since you'd need a rifle, basic ammo load, and some sort of LBE type gear to carry your stuff in.
As to the particular vest pictured in this thread, I wouldn't recommend it. I've always hated vests, prefer to put the MOLLE pouches directly on the body armor. That and the vest pictured is attached to a pistol belt, and those things aren't terribly comfortable.
The two times I could think of when an average joe might want such a vest with ammo pouches, med kit, camel back, etc. would be for one of those carbine classes I see threads about from time to time (like this one: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=278688). The other time would be if you actually had to act in a militia role; since you'd need a rifle, basic ammo load, and some sort of LBE type gear to carry your stuff in.
As to the particular vest pictured in this thread, I wouldn't recommend it. I've always hated vests, prefer to put the MOLLE pouches directly on the body armor. That and the vest pictured is attached to a pistol belt, and those things aren't terribly comfortable.
Landpimp
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I have found my Blackhawk vest and Level IIA helpfull and I aint a cop.......but then again I have lots of stuff I never had a "need" for....as does everyone here
Its nice to grab and go...handy to toss in the back of the rig when heading out shooting trees and stuff, keeps alot of weight of my hips with the belt and vest
I prefer a small bug out bag or something or look for a good quality used vest
Its nice to grab and go...handy to toss in the back of the rig when heading out shooting trees and stuff, keeps alot of weight of my hips with the belt and vest
I prefer a small bug out bag or something or look for a good quality used vest
jakk280rem
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i have considered making use of one of those, or one like, it as a part of a bob. mostly to stow the items i don't want to unsling my bag to get at. or lose if i'm seperated from it. but i couldn't imagine being caught out in public wearing it.
OurSafeHome.net
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Design is All Wrong<tm> for the Real World<tm>.
Moving your magazines off the cartridge belt is a good idea as it frees up space for additional canteens of water, which you WILL use if you are out in Indian country.
The flaws in this design are that the mag pockets look to be designed for skinny sub-machine gun magazines. If you are getting kitted up to for a situation that may require that many magazines your vest had better have armor plates! Therefore, this vest is not well thought out.
If you are going deep into Indian country, where you need extra canteens on your cartridge belt, then you had better be toting a RIFLE and not a sub-gun! Therefore, this vest is not well thought out.
But to someone who has never been "outside the wire" it DOES look tactikwel, and will sell well.
Moving your magazines off the cartridge belt is a good idea as it frees up space for additional canteens of water, which you WILL use if you are out in Indian country.
The flaws in this design are that the mag pockets look to be designed for skinny sub-machine gun magazines. If you are getting kitted up to for a situation that may require that many magazines your vest had better have armor plates! Therefore, this vest is not well thought out.
If you are going deep into Indian country, where you need extra canteens on your cartridge belt, then you had better be toting a RIFLE and not a sub-gun! Therefore, this vest is not well thought out.
But to someone who has never been "outside the wire" it DOES look tactikwel, and will sell well.
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Funny someone should mention that. My neighbors are typical yuppiesh suburbanites, nice people overall, both accountants, have 2 kids, yada ya. Not gun people.
One day I'm in my backyard and see the wife mowing their back yard, wearing something, that, from a distance, I could have sworn was a black tactical vest with multiple mag holders.
Similar to the one in the OP. I tried not to stare and being to ask myself if I had been "missing" something about them all along. Then after she's done mowing, she comes over to ask me about something, and it's actually a weight vest similiar to this one:http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5481392
Sure had me fooled from a distance though.
I have the Blackhawk Enhanced Commando Recon Harness Molle vest. Works over large body Armour or alone and doubles as a plate carrier and load bearing rig.
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Enhanced-Commando-Recon-Harness,756,129.htm
jpwilly
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Useful! Come on guys! I wear mine everytime I go to the mall.
That's MUCH better in my humble opinion then the vest pictured by the OP. If you're going to get a vest, get a MOLLE. That way you can put the pouches wherever is best for you.
On a sidenote, there's so many pouches for things other than mags. I know a guy who apparently has friends in supply because he has pouches for everything from a map to his flashlight to a radio.
On a sidenote, there's so many pouches for things other than mags. I know a guy who apparently has friends in supply because he has pouches for everything from a map to his flashlight to a radio.
chudykGT
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"Atomd:Say you just have to have a whole bunch of harmonicas ready to go at any moment, but at the same time there was a chance of being shot....that vest would be perfect!"
Pure gold lolol.
As most others have said, an actual MOLLE vest so you could put various pouches, slings etc, would be more useful. I have some generic non-modular tac-vest I use when doing day hikes. It has alot of different sized pockets though. Food, lots of water, sunscreen, bugspray, map, compass, sunglasses etc. All of it fits decent enough, but that one with all the mag pouches wouldn't be much good except for the aformentioned harmonica salesman.
Pure gold lolol.
As most others have said, an actual MOLLE vest so you could put various pouches, slings etc, would be more useful. I have some generic non-modular tac-vest I use when doing day hikes. It has alot of different sized pockets though. Food, lots of water, sunscreen, bugspray, map, compass, sunglasses etc. All of it fits decent enough, but that one with all the mag pouches wouldn't be much good except for the aformentioned harmonica salesman.
Do you guys think it would be too ninjish if a attached a Voodoo Tactical Scabbard to the back of my vest for a PGO shotgun? You never know when you might have to breech a door in the largest mall in America. Oops, I've said to much already. Over and Out.
kd7nqb
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I think it would be kinda cool to wear while hunting, hold everything from trail food to ammo.
nwilliams
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mall ninja
Titan6
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I can't imagine a scenario where someone would actually wear such a vest. As pointed out the military does not use them much anymore as we most often attach stuff straight to the IBA. I did see a couple people in theater with the vest though. One was a driver who kept the vest in the center console and kept his IBA naked. His feeling was that if he had to dismount than he could grab it and go. The other two were contracted guards actually in Kuwait. The vest pictured is not military issue and looks cheap.
So far a s any practical use.... If you were fighting Zombies I guess it would be useful, all your mag pouches might be handy. If you were fighting the invading Chinese in a counterinsurgency you would be the first thing that they shot, or arrested if they found such a vest on you.
So far a s any practical use.... If you were fighting Zombies I guess it would be useful, all your mag pouches might be handy. If you were fighting the invading Chinese in a counterinsurgency you would be the first thing that they shot, or arrested if they found such a vest on you.
Ummm, I'm pretty sure if you were fighting an insurgency against the invading Chinese, they'd kill or arrest you if they found a gun or ammo on you, forget about them finding a LBE.
Like I said, I'd see a LBE type vest being useful for the average joe for carbine classes and such, and if, God forbid, you ever had to act in a militia role. Yes, it's better to put MOLLE pouches directly on the body armor, but the average joe isn't going to have body armor (which costs 2 grand or more with the ballistic plates if I'm not mistaken), but you can get a decent MOLLE vest for less than $100 at a surplus store. The particular vest pictured by the OP looks like crappy quality though.
Like I said, I'd see a LBE type vest being useful for the average joe for carbine classes and such, and if, God forbid, you ever had to act in a militia role. Yes, it's better to put MOLLE pouches directly on the body armor, but the average joe isn't going to have body armor (which costs 2 grand or more with the ballistic plates if I'm not mistaken), but you can get a decent MOLLE vest for less than $100 at a surplus store. The particular vest pictured by the OP looks like crappy quality though.
Madcap_Magician
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The Blackhawk vest posted second is much better than the first. The elastic pull tab mag pouches are way easier to access than snaps or velcro, and only having one or two mags instead of, say, three piled directly on top of it, makes it easier to go prone.
I'm the OP. It is definitely crappy quality. They were being offered for $35 bucks. I am just assuming people over there gobbled them up for airsoft. Like you guys, I reasoned out they were useless. Just wasn't sure if I was missing something.
Still Too Many Choices!?
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A GOOD vest, is like a clean work bench... A place for everything, and everything in it's place!! Having said that, I don't own one, but the above looks cheap....
Still 2 Many Choices!?
!! Having said that, I don't own one, but the above looks cheap....Still 2 Many Choices!?
If you've got to take care of young kids, you need that vest. Room for up to 4 spare bottles! The camo hides pee-pee stains quite well. Sometimes you don't have time to call for back-up, and you need to lay down a suppressive fire of cheerios and froot loops. When the SHTF literally, you default to your level of training.
I was just about to leave this thread after reading all about the mall ninjas and laughing myself sore when I realized that way back in the early 70's Coors packaged Banquet Beer in these small 8 ounce or so cans, about the size of a small tomato or V8 juice can.
All of a sudden that tac vest looked like the cat's meow for those extended trips to, oh, I don't know......maybe the mall !
I'm not going back to count the pouches but I'll bet at least 30 of those little cans would fit !
I hope they take PayPal.
All of a sudden that tac vest looked like the cat's meow for those extended trips to, oh, I don't know......maybe the mall !
I'm not going back to count the pouches but I'll bet at least 30 of those little cans would fit !
I hope they take PayPal.
illinois brass man
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If you have to ask.....Its Mall Ninja
I bought a rack sort of like that for my IBA, it really helped distrubute the weight of saw pouches. But if your just carrying 5.56 mags there are much better choices. Check these out.
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/mav-modularassaultvests.aspx
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/mav-modularassaultvests.aspx
Madcap_Magician
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What do you have for SAW pouches? They took my M4 and gave me a SAW, so my old RIG no longer works.
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