Value of a Mint Remington Rand 1911

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That's all the pics for now. If anyone wants to see any specific shot (within my pathetic photographic abilities), let me know in the next day or so.

Kirk
 
Following World War Two many, if not most model 1911 and 1911-A1 pistols remaining in the government’s hands were rebuilt and refurbished – both at arsenals and in the field. The original maker’s names were not marked on the frame, just the slide – and slides were often changed without any attempt to put them on a matching frame. Consequently these guns lost their identity. To tell which contractor made a particular frame you need to know:

(1) The serial number: Because serial numbers were assigned in blocks to the different contractors so in theory (but not always in practice) no two guns would have the same number.

(2) The inspector’s initials: Because certain inspectors were assigned to certain companies.

If you look under the slide stop you will see the initials; F.J.A. – these stand for Col. Frank J. Atwood, who inspected pistols made at Remington Rand and Ithaca. If your pistol has a serial number falling within a block assigned to Remington Rand this would tend to confirm that your gun is original as built, and not an arsenal rebuild. As such it is worth considerably more then a rebuild, as relatively few such guns escaped the rebuilding process.
 
Old Fuff, Stickjockey - All serial numbers and inspection markings have been verified and the serial number indicates that this is a 1945 Remington Rand. Everything matches and as you can see, show's remarkably little wear and what wear is there is consistent between the components.
 
It looks right from here, however look at the FJA and Ordnance mark carefully. You should see crispness or bare/burnished metal in the marks, as they were stamped after the pistol was parkerized. The serial number was stamped afterwards as well. In addition, the bullet ramp on the frame should be bare milled steel, not polished nor parkerized over.
 
dsk - Burnished metal in all of the above and the bullet ramp is naked as a jaybird.
 
Well folks, it looks like the owner wants to sell it after all. He's giving me first crack at it, but I'm not sure I can afford it. Any advice about where and how I should market this should I not take it? And do I hear any recommendations about a beginning price?
 
I'd dare say that you'll not find one that nice again in your life time and know the history behind it... Buy it, your Friend may want to buy it back from you in a few years, after he figures out what he did. Value... Not sure, but it is well over $1,000.
 
BUY IT!!!

tell your friend that if he can not supress the urge to sell that you WILL buy it from him and that you will give him a fair price. but that it may take you a little while to get all of the funds together, but that you WILL buy it!!

DO NOT let this oppurtunity pass, I myself and many people i know, would give almost anything (including internal organs) to have this pistol.

just showed the wife the pics before she walked out the door to go to work. she said it would tempt HER to sell something like the CAR!:what:


if you don't at least ATTEMPT to get your friend to give you some time to get the funds, so that it goes to someone he KNOWS will care for it like it should be. you'll be kicking yourself for years to come
 
Man, you'd better go for that.

That is an insanely nice pistol... it's a museum piece.

I'll agree that I'd sell internal organs to get that puppy -- and I'm not even a 1911 afficionado, so to speak.

Wes
 
wow... priceless! :eek:
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It looks like it just came out of a museum or something...

Anyone else get bug-eyed when the watch Tales of the Gun and see the guys open up brand new in the box WWI and WWII weapons...
 
somehow I feel like a better person after looking at those pics. weird.

thanks.

cheers
 
It looks like we're going to work out a deal whereby I can become the owner of this puppy. The owner had no idea what he had and would have treated it like your typical shooter had I not done some investigation. He's going to give me a decent price break and I should be able to come up with the cash.

We'll work out the details next week.
 
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I bought this pistol. It's now my one and only safe queen. Tomorrow I'm going to go through it and make sure it's 100% spotless, give it a light coat of oil and pack her away. I may of course have to take it out every now and then and put a mag or two through it.

Speaking of mags, it came with two original GI mags. One of which came with the gun. Impossible to verify of course, but the owner says it was in the original box with the gun. Damn shame he didn't save the box.

Kirk
 
KMKeller:

I'm glad you got the gun. I have been tied up with some "must be done RIGHT NOW!!" work," but this weekend I will post a long message that will make you even more glad you bought that gun.

Look out for that Tuner .. all he want's to do is get another range beater ... :what: :D :D
 
I'll have to find a way to let everyone take a look at her someday... except for 'Tuner... I hear he has sticky eyeballs and everything he looks at manages to adhere...:uhoh:



Okay okay. Actually, I'm going to make sure 'Tuner gets a chance to give her the ol' once over. Hell, I may even let him shoot it.

Old Fuff, you can shoot it too, if you can make your way out to John's place. Just a quick drive right? :)
 
Oh Man!!!! I just clicked back to page 1 and looked at those pictures again. Kirk - wow, all I can say is congratulations on a fantastic piece. Way cool! :cool: I so wish I lived closer to you guys to take drive over some saturday afternoon to have a look see. Johnny - don't you go try and buy it out from under Kirk now, ya hear?! ;)

I'm so happy for you to have aquired such a piece of history. I'm just in one of those "I LOVE you MAN" moods. (a few white russians will do that ;) )

Best you guys! (that's 'northern' for y'all) ;)
mpthole
 
Thanks mpthole. I finding it difficult not to take it out of the safe every few hours and fondle it. :D
 
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