Waffle House does not allow lawfull CCW.

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Thats a good answer. I feel the same way. I'm also concerned about the overall image I/we project as gunowners due to the streotypes that certain folks seem to apply to us. And no, this was not a baited question, just one of curiosity. I'm not into the LEO bashing JBT thing, even though I know they exist, { have had the "pleasure" of working with a few as a medic on the TAC team}. In the end we are all on the same team and must work together.

I'm sure I am starting to sound like a broken record with all this, so I will drop the subject on this forum as there are plenty of other things to talk about around here. Be safe and make sure you call corporate. { you still have not done that have you? }



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Well, all I know is that I have been meaning to stop by the one down the street from where I'm moving. Lots of places in Missouri have been posting lately...

FWIW, they USED to (before CCW passed) have a sign outside saying that firearms were not welcome on the premises. I asked the manager once if it was okay for me to park there on the way to a hunting trip - got told that it didn't pertain to me... I'm guessing it may pertain to folks who are darker complected... Hate that.
 
Years ago, Denny's used to have anti-CCW signs here in Florida after the CCW laws were passed.

Just so happens my wife and I were employed as dealers in a casino aboard a ship that sailed out of downtown Miami. Dealers work for tips, which means cash, so I got my CCW (the captain of the ship was a great guy, he let me carry my sidearm on board and secure it in a ship's locker while I worked!). We usually got off work late at night, and the only place to grab a bite on the way home that late at night was, you guessed it, Denny's.

So we stopped going to Denny's to eat, because it was in a lousy neighborhood and I certainly wasn't going there unarmed. But not before I had a polite chat with the manager. And later I wrote a letter to Denny's corporate office. Guess what? Thanks to the power of internet activism / coordinated boycotting, Denny's signs came down after a few weeks. Never had a problem with Denny's since.

I can't really boycott Waffle House, because I don't already eat there (OK, maybe once every 4-5 years). But if someone can post their corporate contact info, I'll be happy to write them a letter. Too lazy to look it up just now, I'm overdue for some R&R.

Now, as to: "My point is simply this: If WH is so adamantly anti-gun, then why is this little fact not posted in the "House Rules" that I've mentioned? No signs, no letters, no posted anything. You'd think that WH would want to ensure that their customers absolutely knew the rules, and that they would post them. "

Here's MY wild-ass guess hypothetical answer to this question: Because WH may not really be so anti-gun, that's just in their corp policy because their attorney told them to CYA in case they ever have a shooting on their premises, they can point to their policy and say, "See, we TRIED to prevent this!". But as long as it's in the corp policy, they can let each store manager choose whether on not to enforce this. But that's just my WAG. Now, if that's really the case, it wouldn't be beneficial for wprebeck to quiz them and have them say, "Yes, that's the policy", because then wprebeck might not have the discretion which allows him to let law-abiding citizens carry in Waffle House.

Oh, and wprebeck, regarding: "Ah...the everpresent (at least on THR) "Are you a JBT LEO" question....", there's no need for the question, after hanging out on this board for a while it becomes real obvious who the JBTs are (you don't sound like one to me) and who the stand-up cops are. Although I must confess that some of the "LEOs" who post here sound like such extreme JBTs that I have had to wonder whether they're really cops, or anti-cop trolls trying to make cops look bad, like the guy who implied I was a pothead (wrong again, mister) because I criticized the War On (some) Drugs. Too bad that thread was closed before I had the chance to respond.

So, in passing, I say, "No guns, no money!" and I hoist my adult beverage and say "Cheers!" to all you police here and everywhere else who do your jobs without trashing the Constitution or screwing over law-abiding citizens. I know you're out there, and I imagine you guys are the ones we just don't hear about.
 
I usually avoid places that do not want my money. I usually wear a Coronado leather vest if I am carrying and nobody gives me a second look.
I am not obliged to tell anyone who asks me unless they are a law enforcement officer, so unless they call a LEO they will never know.
 
Although their hashbrowns are loaded with enough grease that I lubed my Truck with it.

That's actually their defensive system: you're supposed to pick up the squashed-flat disk of hashbrowns off your plate and toss them, frisbee-style, under the bad guy's feet so he'll slip and fall... :D
 
Eat at Village Inn instead!

I sent the following e-mail to the ViCorp. CS address on Sunday, August 08, 2004 4:28 PM
Hello;
I'm writing to ask if Village Inn Corp. has any specific policy
regarding the lawful wearing/carrying of firearms by patrons? The
reason I'm asking is that I live in a State where it is lawful to openly
wear a handgun and where it is also possible for a citizen to obtain a
State issued license to carry a concealed handgun.
I am hoping that You do not have any policy prohibiting such lawful
carrying of firearms by your patrons.

Thank you,

Today I recieved the following reply.
Thanks for writing with your concerns.

Our elected representatives, after due consideration of the issues, have
determined the rules governing the lawful carrying of firearms. Vicorp does
not choose to become involved in this matter by second-guessing actions of
our legislators or the law enforcement officials who enforce the law.

James Dowd
VICorp Restaurants, Inc.

Maybe not a ringing endorsement of CCW, but these days even neutrality on this issue is better than being anti.
 
I wouldn't eat at a waffle house anyway. The food is bad and they're mostly full of shady characters (at least the couple of dozen I've been to). The only reason I ever went to waffle houses was to get some food after last call and they're the only one's open.
 
I sort of laugh every time people get bent out of shape when a company like Waffle House exercises its rights to preclude concealed carry by people who can legally carry concealed. Aside from the whole "my priveledge is more important than your rights" angle of outraged gun folks, just who can a company preclude from carrying legally? The signs don't work on the bad guys.

Of course here I had to laugh really hard that the offending establishment was Waffle House. Y'all go right ahead and boycott them because of the concealed carry issue. Me, I have boycotted Waffle House for years, not because of any sort of gun policies, but because they happen to be some of the most disgusting chain eateries I have ever been in and have some pretty nasty food. For grins I will say it is for the gun issue. It sounds so righteous, but even if they allow concealed carry, it won't make their food taste better.
 
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Nope, haven't called yet. Won't bother, either...it's kind of a waste of time.

Everyone please read carefully, as this doesn't happen often (unless I'm talking to my wife):


I was wrong.


I read the stuff over at packing.org, and saw the info posted.


That being said, I'm still gonna go with my "if it's actually corporate policy, why are there so many differences between stores?" question.

I noticed last week at the Cane Run store, that not only is there a "No guns" sign (the one with the circle/slash over a pic of a gun), but in the parking lot, there's a sign that says "No firearms". It's actually on the outside of the store, wayyyy up towards the top of the building. Been working there a year, and never noticed it.

BUT, at the Bishop Lane store, there is NO sign whatsoever. BOth stores are in bad neighborhoods (that's why we're there), and are owned by the same company. So, I can't figure it out.

As far as my response to people carrying goes, see my previous post about this subject. I couldn't care less about a lawfully armed citizen carrying a gun. I did before I was in LE, will do so LONG after I leave it.
 
I haven't noticed any signs in the few Florida Waffle Houses I've been in. Always carry, and never look for signs. Concealed is concealed. No one's business but yours.

P.S. Did you know that they don't serve real butter. Nope, not even if you ask. They say it's corporate policy. That's what keeps me away.
 
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