My advice to you is to start reloading your own shells. I shoot trap and sporting clays and load my own 1oz. 12 gauge loads at about 1185fps. I can shoot 150 of these in a day and they don't bother me. However, if I shoot a box of the bargin variety field loads from Walmart, my shoulder hurts after 25 rounds. Lighter loads, combined with a high quality recoil pad like a kick-ezz should go a long way to improving your shooting and reducing recoil. Beyond that, sell the pump gun and get a qualilty, gas operated semiauto like a beretta. I find these very soft shooting, so much so that my son started shooting one in 12 gauge when he was 12 years old. It was the bargin Beretta 390 sold be Walmart but it is one heck of a gun.
Ways to reduce recoil on 12Ga Maverick 88?
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leVieux
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1) Shortening a shotgun stock is almost always a big mistake. The typical 14.5" factory LOP is too short for the average American man, already.
2) Find someone who is really knowledgeable about shotgun stocks instead of soliciting peanut gallery misinformation here.
3) Are you a bunch of sissies? Is a regular 12Ga too much for wimpies to handle?
leVieux
2) Find someone who is really knowledgeable about shotgun stocks instead of soliciting peanut gallery misinformation here.
3) Are you a bunch of sissies? Is a regular 12Ga too much for wimpies to handle?
leVieux
oneounceload
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There's nothing wimpy about not liking recoil or the deleterious long-term effects it can produce
Yep, we're a bunch of wimps. That's why we hang out in the shotgun section.
I'm an above average sized guy and have plenty of muscle on my torso, but my 12ga still rocks me if I don't shoulder it correctly in the heat of a tactical match. I brought a health sized bruise back from the last one.
I'm an above average sized guy and have plenty of muscle on my torso, but my 12ga still rocks me if I don't shoulder it correctly in the heat of a tactical match. I brought a health sized bruise back from the last one.
Ozarkrick
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Reload (or have a friend who does reload) light loads for you. My wife and kids shoot a 12ga, 7/8 oz load, using reclaimed shot # 8-ish, 17.8 grs Promo, Claybuster 7/8 oz Win replacement wad, in an AA or STS hull. 1175 FPS and very light recoil. Fun to shoot in Mossy Marine - its as cheep of a load as your going to get.
leVieux
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Shortening a standard shotgun stock will increase felt recoil for almost everyone.
I am a sportsman, not a "tactical" shooter; and, therefore, have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds of shotshells of various gauges and loads, from everything from a Sauer Ejector through my modern assortment of 870's. Over 1,000 rounds on some days.
I recommend seeking advice on shotgun stocks from an expert, not from a "tactical" shotgunner.
I have seen too many police experts on "demonstration" tapes; who had no idea of how to handle a shotgun, but were the "experts".
leVieux
I am a sportsman, not a "tactical" shooter; and, therefore, have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds of shotshells of various gauges and loads, from everything from a Sauer Ejector through my modern assortment of 870's. Over 1,000 rounds on some days.
I recommend seeking advice on shotgun stocks from an expert, not from a "tactical" shotgunner.
I have seen too many police experts on "demonstration" tapes; who had no idea of how to handle a shotgun, but were the "experts".
leVieux
oneounceload
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Wrong,I have no bruises, because I don't abuse my body with totally unnecessary recoil...........but then again MY stocks FIT, so even with heavy pigeon loads, I get no bruises....if YOU are getting them, then you have a problem,,,,,,,,,(and it isn't just about stock fit)........have a nice day
Armored farmer
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I've seen "shooters" come and go.....
The one's that think a competition can be won at the reloading bench by sooping-up a high performance load, are usually the first to go. Usually from the uncontrollable flinch that WILL inevitably result from shooting hot loads, over a period of time.
If you haven't heard of the dreaded "flinch", you haven't shot much.
The one's that think a competition can be won at the reloading bench by sooping-up a high performance load, are usually the first to go. Usually from the uncontrollable flinch that WILL inevitably result from shooting hot loads, over a period of time.
If you haven't heard of the dreaded "flinch", you haven't shot much.
oneounceload
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exactly..............
leVieux
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Quote: I believe the point was to shorten the stock a bit so you could then add a thicker pad which *does* decrease felt recoil. What was that about "expert"? END QUOTE.
No, that is almost always the wrong thing, because the standard LOP is usually too short to begin with.
If one wants a recoil pad, try a removable one first, one that fits outside, and shoot it a bunch before deciding. After a while, one will will find an optimal length, then think about placing a permanent pad, using a competent stock professional.
Also, consider the usual clothing to be worn for the activity. Duck guns, usually fired from a heavily-clothed shoulder, are usually stocked 1/4" or so shorter than dove, skeet, or trap guns.
If one still has a problem, try an external sorbothane pad, like a "PAST-pad" or specialized clothing which has a built-in pad or pad pocket.
A stock that is a little "too long" is a whole lot better than one that is a little too short.
The too-common practice that you recommend has ruined many, many shotguns.
leVieux
No, that is almost always the wrong thing, because the standard LOP is usually too short to begin with.
If one wants a recoil pad, try a removable one first, one that fits outside, and shoot it a bunch before deciding. After a while, one will will find an optimal length, then think about placing a permanent pad, using a competent stock professional.
Also, consider the usual clothing to be worn for the activity. Duck guns, usually fired from a heavily-clothed shoulder, are usually stocked 1/4" or so shorter than dove, skeet, or trap guns.
If one still has a problem, try an external sorbothane pad, like a "PAST-pad" or specialized clothing which has a built-in pad or pad pocket.
A stock that is a little "too long" is a whole lot better than one that is a little too short.
The too-common practice that you recommend has ruined many, many shotguns.
leVieux
Le Vieux, it has nothing to do with 'too much for wimpies to handle' If you want to talk about wimps, I'm a 320-lb weightlifter who's deadlifted 425 lbs, near a quarter ton (I get told I don't look nearly that heavy all the time) and the 'pain' is not bad to me. Not very Highroadly, and the advice I've been getting has been good, actually. Sure it'll leave a bruise, but what I'm focusing on, is adjusting recoil to be able to better hit what I'm aiming at. When I shoot slugs from it, the muzzle jumps, or something ends up happening that I don't hit where I expect to at 100 yards. I'm not expecting varmint-rifle-accuracy, but I'd like to be able to better use it. Also, I want others to be able to use it at the range or on the field, women, teens, and smaller-framed people.
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I'd buy a very nice recoil pad, a lot of ammo, and shoot the gun until you figure out how to shoot it comfortably.
leVieux
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Rand, you have every right to be ignorant and arrogant. Enjoy your day.
John, it was a joke, OK? Sorry, I surely don't want to offend any 320# weight-lifters.
It is just that I have seem so many erroneous shotgun stock-cuttings that have ruined shotgun stocks over the years.
I am outta here.
leVieux
John, it was a joke, OK? Sorry, I surely don't want to offend any 320# weight-lifters.
It is just that I have seem so many erroneous shotgun stock-cuttings that have ruined shotgun stocks over the years.
I am outta here.
leVieux
ET
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Jimbo14: said:
Quick question: At Pro Bass they sell both "Reduced Recoil" & "Lighter Load" 12 ga. shells. Is there any difference in these as to the recoil factor? Is one more reduced than the other?
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Newbies with all the answers...oneounceload
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They will have either a reduced payload or reduced velocity or a combination of both when compared to the regular offering. Actual recoil is a mathematical calculation based on velocity of the ejecta, mass of the ejecta and weight of the gun. Shooting the heaviest gun with the lightest payload/velocity will give you the lightest recoil. FELT recoil is different and can be tamed by a variety of things, with gun fit being the most important. Using a good pad, gas action, etc. all serve to spread the recoil pulse out over a longer period of time (measured in milliseconds) so it FEELS like it is less.
MCgunner
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Fit was a HUGE key with my Mossberg. I shimmed the stock to give it more drop which it needed. It was a HUGE difference in felt recoil, no longer a cheek bruiser.
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