Prince Yamato
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sounds like a great opera libretto!
what gives? 3 letters of reference for pistol permit?
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sounds like a great opera libretto!
jimmyraythomason
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I live in Alabama,a state that many seem to consider "backward". I love it here! I was issued a pistol permit at age 20 and a friend of mine got his at 19(I was there). I always get mine from our County Sheriff. It required filling out an application followed by an interview with the Sheriff. Permits are good statewide and honored by all surrounding states. Permits are $10.00 per year and we renew by mail. A lot to be said for being backward!
I live in Alabama,a state that many seem to consider "backward". I love it here! I was issued a pistol permit at age 20 and a friend of mine got his at 19(I was there). I always get mine from our County Sheriff. It required filling out an application followed by an interview with the Sheriff. Permits are good statewide and honored by all surrounding states. Permits are $10.00 per year and we renew by mail. A lot to be said for being backward!
My club is in the next town
Ken, my club is maybe 10 minutes from New Britian. Check out www.mattabassettrpc.com. It is a small range with 25-50-100 yard lanes. If you show up on saturday at 10 there will be some sort of plate shoot going on open to the public. This weekend it will be BUG's and shot guns. Just bring 10 dollars entry fee and some ammo people will have guns and share them. This week is odd we usually just shoot pistol and rifle.
A couple of the guys are NRA instructors that I know of. I know Bruce Gallup better because he is the range master. Everbody in the state has to go through the class and many people do it just so they can buy pistols not for carry although the permit doesn't make a distinction. The instructor will tell you what you need in regards to the letters.
There are a few clubs and ranges nearby but in CT almost everything is nearby. I don't know if I will make it this saturday but more likely the next.
I try to shoot once or more a week in the summer but in the winter it gets tough. P.M. me and we can set up a meet.
I've met the guys from Quaker Hill and they are a good bunch of guys. Their club is a sweet set up and I've had a good time shooting there.
pete
Ken, my club is maybe 10 minutes from New Britian. Check out www.mattabassettrpc.com. It is a small range with 25-50-100 yard lanes. If you show up on saturday at 10 there will be some sort of plate shoot going on open to the public. This weekend it will be BUG's and shot guns. Just bring 10 dollars entry fee and some ammo people will have guns and share them. This week is odd we usually just shoot pistol and rifle.
A couple of the guys are NRA instructors that I know of. I know Bruce Gallup better because he is the range master. Everbody in the state has to go through the class and many people do it just so they can buy pistols not for carry although the permit doesn't make a distinction. The instructor will tell you what you need in regards to the letters.
There are a few clubs and ranges nearby but in CT almost everything is nearby. I don't know if I will make it this saturday but more likely the next.
I try to shoot once or more a week in the summer but in the winter it gets tough. P.M. me and we can set up a meet.
I've met the guys from Quaker Hill and they are a good bunch of guys. Their club is a sweet set up and I've had a good time shooting there.
pete
ChiefThunderstick
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Dog Bonz
that's not for a carry permit. You can only take your gun to and from the range with no stops in between. You speak of a permit to purchase., and you need one for every purchase. NJ truly sucks, glad I left.
that's not for a carry permit. You can only take your gun to and from the range with no stops in between. You speak of a permit to purchase., and you need one for every purchase. NJ truly sucks, glad I left.
Stevie-Ray
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In Michigan (Wayne cty) there were no forms. They were handwritten letters of good character from people you know in their own words that were then good enough friends to take them to be notarized on their own time. A bunch of us gunners wrote letters about each other at work to make it easy and then we all had to take trips to the notary. It was total BS, but that was Wayne county. It is a total BS county. Whaddya expect, it includes Detroit.
Standing Wolf
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You should be furious, and let your elected misrepresentatives know.
smince
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Filling out an application statewide is a new thing (Oct 2006), but some counties have did it for years. I've never had to, and I've been carrying in AL since 1982. The statewide average cost is $10.00, but actual cost is set by the County Gov't. For instance, Jefferson Co. is listed as $7.50 a year up to $35 for Baldwin Co. (Ours is $25
)Expand on these, please. There aren't many places I know of in AL I can't carry. The usual courthouses, schools(CCW exempt for dropping off/picking up your children), etc.
geronimotwo
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in delaware co ny, it took a $10 permit fee, a $99 fbi check fee, (along with 2 sets of fingerprints) 4 letters of reference, (all of which must have known you for five years or longer, and 2 of which had to be county residents. SOL if new to the area i guess.) then it's up to a part time deputy (5 hours per month) to process this. wait time, from filing to permit, is said to be 6 months on their form, but is closer to nine.:banghead:
my thoughts(on the somewhat brighter side)
You know, although getting a permit is a hastle, when you look at it, it isn’t really isn’t as bad as people say when compared to some of our fellow communist block surrounding states. The 3 references are required by New Britain as a town requirement not the state.(thankfully my town never required it)
In Connecticut, to possess and purchase outside the home except for a few exceptions you need a permit to purchase & conceal. So in other words to even purchase a handgun, you have to have one license that allows you to conceal and buy ..well, look at it as two licenses as one good every 5 years.
Although we do have Registration, there are no mag capacity laws, no safe handgun lists, and very few carry restrictions besides k-12 schools and courthouses. We also don’t have to list specifically what we carry on our permit like NY does. CT actually has been doing ccw for quite a while, and is fairly shall issue, although you might have to jump through some small hoops living in a small city depending on there wants. Hope this helped explain a little better for people.
-nate
You know, although getting a permit is a hastle, when you look at it, it isn’t really isn’t as bad as people say when compared to some of our fellow communist block surrounding states. The 3 references are required by New Britain as a town requirement not the state.(thankfully my town never required it)
In Connecticut, to possess and purchase outside the home except for a few exceptions you need a permit to purchase & conceal. So in other words to even purchase a handgun, you have to have one license that allows you to conceal and buy ..well, look at it as two licenses as one good every 5 years.
Although we do have Registration, there are no mag capacity laws, no safe handgun lists, and very few carry restrictions besides k-12 schools and courthouses. We also don’t have to list specifically what we carry on our permit like NY does. CT actually has been doing ccw for quite a while, and is fairly shall issue, although you might have to jump through some small hoops living in a small city depending on there wants. Hope this helped explain a little better for people.
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jimmyraythomason
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Alabama pistol permits
In Blount County where I live the sheriffs office issues the CCL. The sheriff is an elected county official but the sheriff himself sets the protocol and cost of obtaining a permit. I have had one since 1973. The permits are unresticted ,not firearm specific,and is good for any handgun you wish to carry.
In Blount County where I live the sheriffs office issues the CCL. The sheriff is an elected county official but the sheriff himself sets the protocol and cost of obtaining a permit. I have had one since 1973. The permits are unresticted ,not firearm specific,and is good for any handgun you wish to carry.
tater19
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I live in Idaho and all we have to do here is get a background check done and have approved weapons training like an NRA or Hunter Safety class. It was pretty easy to get my permit. One thing I didn't like though, I worked at an indoor shooting range in college and one night there was an NRA weapons training class for people to get their concealed weapons license. They held the guns, loaded and unloaded fake ammo and after about 2 hours of that, they were trained on weapons to get a concealed weapons permit. NOT ONCE DID THEY FIRE A BULLET! And they were qualified to carry a concealed weapon?
AHHHH Leters of Reference. Nothing more than to incease the hassle. If a person can not get 3 to 50 letters of reference they are already most likely a convicted felon. Totally useless just a hassle. This is the same as letters of reference from a previous employer. No employer writes a bad letter anymore for fear of a law suit. Employers talk by phone. Useless in this day and age. I know I am an employer and there have been some horrible employees who have good letters of reference and the phone calls are the real relayers of truth.
smince
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Not always, in every county. Jackson Co used to have a place to list the firearm(s) and serial # on their permit that you might possibly carry. And I looked over the form you fill out now for the background check at the S.O. It had a place for ONE firearm to be listed that you are going to CCW.
Our state representative passed a ruling that raised our cost of a permit, with all over $10 going to the S.O. as an 'equipment fund'. I'm all for LE having the funds and tools for the job, but he found himself out of a job next election time.
AL has very good state carry laws, but I wish the cost and qualifications were more consistent county to county.
jimmyraythomason
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Alabama pistol permits
I was of course only speaking of Blount County. There was a Democrat sheriff elected in the late 1980s last name was Sosebee, who was not a friend of gunowners. Sheriff Sosebee raised the price of a CCL from $5.00 to $10.00, required a new application for existing licenses at renewal and did away with the unrestricted licenses. We rewarded him with only one term!
I was of course only speaking of Blount County. There was a Democrat sheriff elected in the late 1980s last name was Sosebee, who was not a friend of gunowners. Sheriff Sosebee raised the price of a CCL from $5.00 to $10.00, required a new application for existing licenses at renewal and did away with the unrestricted licenses. We rewarded him with only one term!
smince
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I'm from DeKalb, not very far away. We got rid of our Rep for this and several other 'funding increases' he sponsored.
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i hate to bring this thread up again but Im so mad right now.
Its been two months since I went to the range. Under CT law I can't even go to the range with my guns unless I have a pistol permit. And again to get a permit I need 3 reference which I need to tell to know that Im going to carry. Only family and a very close friend know that I carried back in AL...arggghh sometimes I regret coming to CT
sorry my trigger finger is ichy
Its been two months since I went to the range. Under CT law I can't even go to the range with my guns unless I have a pistol permit. And again to get a permit I need 3 reference which I need to tell to know that Im going to carry. Only family and a very close friend know that I carried back in AL...arggghh sometimes I regret coming to CT
sorry my trigger finger is ichy
answerguy
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Following up on DoubleTapDrew's idea here are three letters of reference for you:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --Thomas Jefferson
"The Constitution preserves "the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation. . . (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." - James Madison
"The great object is, that every man be armed." - Patrick Henry
Serious, I would LOVE to see someone do something like this.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --Thomas Jefferson
"The Constitution preserves "the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation. . . (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." - James Madison
"The great object is, that every man be armed." - Patrick Henry
Serious, I would LOVE to see someone do something like this.
Kimber1911_06238
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That's a local requirement...
Each town can have their own requirements....I went to the police station and the cop fingerprinted me. The only question was, "What kinda gun you gonna buy?"
I am sure you can find three people willing to vouch for ya...so it's not that big of a deal.
Each town can have their own requirements....I went to the police station and the cop fingerprinted me. The only question was, "What kinda gun you gonna buy?"
I am sure you can find three people willing to vouch for ya...so it's not that big of a deal.
Shooting on Saturday
Ken and everyone, I'm going Saturday to my club's plate match which is open to the public. All you need is the match fee and the ammo. If you don't have a gun someone will loan you one. It is center fire pistol and pistol caliber carbine. The club is in berlin. www.mattabassettrpc.com. It starts at 1000.
I thought Ken would regret coming up here with yesterday's freezing cold! I could only stand to shoot 2 boxes of 9mm and then I gave up.
pete
Ken, check your PMs
Ken and everyone, I'm going Saturday to my club's plate match which is open to the public. All you need is the match fee and the ammo. If you don't have a gun someone will loan you one. It is center fire pistol and pistol caliber carbine. The club is in berlin. www.mattabassettrpc.com. It starts at 1000.
I thought Ken would regret coming up here with yesterday's freezing cold! I could only stand to shoot 2 boxes of 9mm and then I gave up.
pete
Ken, check your PMs
hi, I had the guys who got me into this gun madness write letters for me. I used 3 guys at work who had permits. For one guy, I talked to him then wrote down what he said and had him sign it. I didn't have to notarize mine. The police didn't contact them either. Depending on your place of work you might be surprised at how many deer hunters there are and if you take a class the instructor will help you out. Joining a club will get you access to land to hunt on as well as people who are also shooters.
The way Ct handles the permits means that you can get one and not carry so it doesn't automatically mean that you carry all the time.
Oh, you can go to the range with rifles without a permit if you really need to smell powder smoke.
pete
The way Ct handles the permits means that you can get one and not carry so it doesn't automatically mean that you carry all the time.
Oh, you can go to the range with rifles without a permit if you really need to smell powder smoke.
pete
I live in a town that borders New Britain, CT. I applied for, and got my permit a year ago. I did not need letters of reference. It is my understanding Connecticut law does not require them. This is just an extra hassle being thrown in by some towns.
I have heard some people say to submit your application without the letters of reference. If you are turned down for the permit because of no letters, there is an appeal process. It will take extra time, but should come out in your favor.
Check out a website: http://www.ralphdsherman.com. This is an attorney who specializes in pistol permits. I just looked at his site, and he is now located in New Britain. He was in West Hartford. I have never met him, but I've heard he is excellent.
I hope this helps. Good luck.
I have heard some people say to submit your application without the letters of reference. If you are turned down for the permit because of no letters, there is an appeal process. It will take extra time, but should come out in your favor.
Check out a website: http://www.ralphdsherman.com. This is an attorney who specializes in pistol permits. I just looked at his site, and he is now located in New Britain. He was in West Hartford. I have never met him, but I've heard he is excellent.
I hope this helps. Good luck.
nrawling
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Another CT resident...
I can't find it now (hmm), but I remember seeing somewhere that the letters of reference requirement were generally a local requirement, and the failure to provide them could not be used as a justification to deny your permit. I can't find it now (I thought it was in the DPS FAQ, but it might have been case law), so your mileage may vary.
The good news is that once you get your permit, CT is really good about it. The downside is that the turnaround time is awful. I submitted mine nearly 11 weeks ago (I already have PA and NH permits), but I'm still waiting. Ah well.
I can't find it now (hmm), but I remember seeing somewhere that the letters of reference requirement were generally a local requirement, and the failure to provide them could not be used as a justification to deny your permit. I can't find it now (I thought it was in the DPS FAQ, but it might have been case law), so your mileage may vary.
The good news is that once you get your permit, CT is really good about it. The downside is that the turnaround time is awful. I submitted mine nearly 11 weeks ago (I already have PA and NH permits), but I'm still waiting. Ah well.
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