The low-down dirty rapscallion
doubleg said:
Big old new haven 28" pump. Its at least 42+ years old and is still as reliable as the day it was made. I think I might love it more than my 1911.
Them's fightin' words. I think it's a Capital Crime to say that.
U.S.SFC_RET said,
230RN Quoted:
But 100 rd of carbine ammo only weighs about 3 lb (same as half a gallon of water), and the 15 rd mag weighs 3 oz. unloaded.
Carrying 100 of those rounds and the light weight of a .30 Cal carbine, what is it 6.5 Lbs? Don't quote me, makes it practical. The only draw back is the price of the Ammunition. I believe the popularity for this rifle is out there in the crowd but not enough to bring the price of the ammo down. Can anybody say RELOAD!
Without looking it up, I think the original specification was less than 5 1/2 pounds, but the final Winchester version was only 4 1/2 lb dry.
I've always had trouble reloading this cartridge and in fact blew a Universal Carbine up once, not because of an excessive load
per se but because I couldn't get the bullets to stay seated in the feed cycle. They got rammed into the case, resulting in exceedingly high pressure.
There's not usually a cannelure on those bullets, and I didn't have facilities to use asphaltum to cement them in, so I gave up on the idea after Universal returned it to me all better. Usual very high-pressure constellation --base of case melted, blew off extractor, jammed bolt, expanded the 15-rd magazine below the mag well. That gun still shoots, 25 years later, but I got another mil-spec one soon after that anyhow. If one is good, two is better --buddy gun, you know. Maybe they'll mate and I'll have a litter.
Only thing I don't like about it is the peep rear. If I ever get a replacement rear sight, I'm going to either mill off the top half of the peep, or dope out a way to put a conventional rear sight on the regular sight base. The Universal had tapped holes for a sidewinder scope mount, and I used it that way for many years, but finally took it off as being too bulky and contrary to the design philosophy of the gun --meaning "to be light and handy."
I don't have any trouble buying 50rd any time I want to out here (Colorado.) I don't usually keep much ammo for anything around, maybe tops 200rd for each gun except .22LR. I was reading another thread on THR and they were talking about keeping many many thousands of rounds on hand for each gun.
Might be useful for trading stock if the SHTF, but there are other things you can keep in stock for trading purposes --like toilet paper and Clorox (TM).
I'm not sure but I think it was Heinlein who recommended that you never own anything more than you could carry in your two hands at a dead run.