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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Kansas Bound, Aug 11, 2008.

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  1. Kansas Bound

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    Here is a Reuters photo from the Russian/Georgian conflict. I was wondering what the gun was on the left side.

    I know that since it is from Reuters it could be a fake but was curious on what it was since I have not seen it before.
     

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  2. Nolo

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    I'm assuming you're not talking about the Kalashnikovs.
    I believe the weapon with the scope is a VSS Vintorez silenced sniper rifle.
    It fires the 9x39mm cartridge at subsonic speeds to be completely silent.
    It could be the other similar weapon (VSK-94), but I don't think the Russkis adopted that one...
     
  3. younganddumb

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    looks like a styer aug
     
  4. Deer Hunter

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    Nolo's right, it's a VSS Vintorez.

    Play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl to learn every single modern russian firearm. :)
     
  5. Nolo

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    I want to play that game!
    Or you could just read all of Max Popenker's site to do the same thing.
    He just added the Korobov bullpup assault rifle. The action, which was an enormous mystery to me (if you've ever seen a Korobov, you know why) is also explained there.
     
  6. Rifleman 173

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    Deer Hunter is right on the money. It is the Russian's newer model close-range 9mm sniper rifle with silencer and scope. Those boys are meaning to get very, very close to something when they strike at it.
     
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    As much as I abhor what is going on over there, I am relatively interested as many of the weapons developed after the Cold War (that new 9x?? cartridge) may now show up on the fields there.
     
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    9x39mm-it's basically a necked-up 7.62x39 shooting a much heavier bullet at subsonic velocities-supposed to be effective up to around 300 yards.
     
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    What are the tubes on their backs?:confused:
     
  10. Deer Hunter

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    Look like rocket launchers of some sort. LAWs maybe?
     
  11. Nolo

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    New Russian LAWs (RPG-29, maybe? Is that collapsible?), I think. The Russkis don't use the RPG-7 anymore.
     
  12. SimpleIsGood229

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    Looks to me like Nolo nailed it. My guess was that 9x39mm rifle, too.
     
  13. Kansas Bound

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    Thanks for the info. I tend to find new gun/concepts interesting. When do you think they are going to be hitting the US market?
     
  14. General Geoff

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    whenever the import ban on nonsporting rifles is lifted.
     
  15. Aka Zero

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    VSS is a little older, and I don't think it has any planned US release. Most internal silenced guns in the US are brought here by collectors. Shame though, would be a nice gun to have in a collection.

    http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn20-e.htm info on that gun
     
  16. jerkface11

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    Russian soldiers don't wear helmets in combat? I bet this is a stock photo being passed off as recent.
     
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    STALKER was a fantastic game. STALKER 2 is coming out soon.
     
  18. DWARREN123

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    :DRuger 10/22, suppressed!:D
     
  19. shevrock

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    Yeah that's a vintorez. it was originally a 7.62X39, but mid developement they had to change due to the internal silencer. i have a friend in Russia who's dad did some of the initial production.
     
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    Just one quick comment. If that is a recent photo from Georgia the Russians still do not appear to very technologically advanced. It looks like us in Vietnam. Even the rockets are LAWS copies, not optics on the rifles, no electronics to speak of or eye protection. Just an observation. Bill
     
  21. Apple a Day

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    Looks like better body armor than our troops had in Vietnam. I wonder how good that armor really is.
     
  22. PercyShelley

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    Hold up; that looks a bit like a digitized camouflage scheme. Russian soldiers don't use that kind of camo; Georgian ones do.

    On the other hand, Georgian troops don't use many Russian small arms aside from AKs.
     
  23. SaMx

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    supposedly Popenker worked for the makers of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. as a consultant on firearms and ballistics accuracy. I don't know if that's actually true, or just an internet rumor.
     
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    Play Stalker 2 first, It is a prequel!
    And probably plays better
     
  25. SDC

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    As noted, it's the VSS "Vintorez" ("VSS" stands for "vintovka snajperskaya spetsialnaya", or "rifle, sniper, special", while "Vintorez" means "whirlwind").

    VSS.jpg
     
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