yy
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Say you're going into a wilderness area. What weapon do you pack, and how do you keep it handy to prepare against an ambush from a COUGAR?
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If I am just taking a walk; not hunting, I carry a Ruger GP100 in a belt holster. I am not real worried about an attack by a couger.
Cougers are not difficult to bring down by any far stretch of the imagination. I have several friends that are avid lion hunters. They spend most of their time and money in this pursuit: dogs, horses, ATVs, trailers............. They usually hunt together and take one .22 pistol between them.
Cougers are not difficult to bring down by any far stretch of the imagination. I have several friends that are avid lion hunters. They spend most of their time and money in this pursuit: dogs, horses, ATVs, trailers............. They usually hunt together and take one .22 pistol between them.
Ala Dan
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5" Smith & Wesson 629-5 "Classic" .44 magnum;
cuz I once heard of this scenario, an a cougar or
mountain lion took six rounds of .357 mag (?)
direct hits to the chest, and the big cat still was
able to attack the shooter!
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
cuz I once heard of this scenario, an a cougar or
mountain lion took six rounds of .357 mag (?)
direct hits to the chest, and the big cat still was
able to attack the shooter!
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
turbonatr
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My Glock 20.
Marko Kloos
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A yarn ball for distraction, and a squirt gun with water for the more persistent ones.
jar
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Well, since the mountain lion in the recent California attack was not scared off when the lady threw down her bike to frighten it, I would want to make sure that my bike had a bell and squeeze bulb horn.
Also, when I'm knowingly going into Lion and Tiger and Bear, OhMy territory I also always carry my PETA membership card just incase I need to show the animal that I'm one of the good guys.
Also, when I'm knowingly going into Lion and Tiger and Bear, OhMy territory I also always carry my PETA membership card just incase I need to show the animal that I'm one of the good guys.
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yy is referencing the recent mtn lion attacks here in Orange County, which occurred two cities over from Fortress Skunkabilly.
I carry for the 2-legged critters mainly. Been shooting instead of hiking on Saturdays, but maybe I'll OWB a USP Expert now
I carry for the 2-legged critters mainly. Been shooting instead of hiking on Saturdays, but maybe I'll OWB a USP Expert now
cratz2
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I usually have my 686 loaded with old school 158 Gr LSWCHPs in addition to whatever rifle, shotgun or rimfire pistol I might be carrying. If I'm out with the Blackhawk or Super Blackhawk, I don't worry about the 686 though I probably should... just for uniformity's sake.
OEF_VET
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I'd also carry my 686.
MarauderLS1
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I enjoy hiking alot in the summer. Around where I live there are some old abandoned mines, brick yards, etc. They stretch for miles along old railroad tracks. Only problems I've run into are packs of wild dogs that run the area. They were pets or something, but people just cast them out.
I used to carry a Glock 20 loaded with 16 full-power 10mm loads and one 15rnd mag spare, it was carried in a belt holster openly along with a fixed blade knife. Sadly I sold the Glock last year. Now when I head out I strap on a P220 with 2 spare mags. I've also gone hiking in some areas out west where there was a possibility of a run-in with wildlife. The guide we had carried an SW Mountain Gun in .44mag with full house loads.
I used to carry a Glock 20 loaded with 16 full-power 10mm loads and one 15rnd mag spare, it was carried in a belt holster openly along with a fixed blade knife. Sadly I sold the Glock last year. Now when I head out I strap on a P220 with 2 spare mags. I've also gone hiking in some areas out west where there was a possibility of a run-in with wildlife. The guide we had carried an SW Mountain Gun in .44mag with full house loads.
Peetmoss
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Were I live big predators are very unlikely. Biggest local predator is a coyote or wild dog. So my G19 is fine.
DougCxx
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I dunno nuts about no cougars, but from judging by how many dogs react, I'd guess the most frighening thing you could do is to wait until they are charging up on you, and then point an automatic umbrella at them and open it.
Dogs get that "mystified" look on their faces for a moment, it's priceless.
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Dogs get that "mystified" look on their faces for a moment, it's priceless.
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It depends on where the cougar is encountered. In a national park or wildlife refuge you'd better have a plan B. If you are in Canada, you'd better have done some serious paperwork, likewise if you're out of state and there is no CCW reciprocity or open carry law.
In Oregon here I have the plan A, which is my normal CCW Springfield Champion loaded with FMJ for the woods. Plan B, in Crater Lake National Park, is a bear sized cannister of 20% OC pepper spray and a Fallkniven A1
In Oregon here I have the plan A, which is my normal CCW Springfield Champion loaded with FMJ for the woods. Plan B, in Crater Lake National Park, is a bear sized cannister of 20% OC pepper spray and a Fallkniven A1
Moparmike
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Out @ my mom's: Witness 120mm and a 78in Ka-Bar. *
In a state forest: probably just a Ka-Bar and some bear spray if I could find it here.
*Damned fat fingers: That should be a Witness 10mm and a 7in Ka-Bar.
In a state forest: probably just a Ka-Bar and some bear spray if I could find it here.
*Damned fat fingers: That should be a Witness 10mm and a 7in Ka-Bar.
One of these. Although, after shooting it, I may have preferred getting eaten by the cougar.
http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=293482&sw_activeTab=1
http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=293482&sw_activeTab=1
Dave Markowitz
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I'd take my 3" GP-100 stoked with 158 grain JHPs, and would probably have my Becker C/U 7 along to balance it on the other side of my belt.
What I used extensively back home in Montana for big cats. My OMBH Ruger in .41Magnum. My standard load is a hard cast 250gr.WFNGC ahead of 9 grains of Unique. Cats are thin-skinned and not all that hard to kill. However, in cat country, it's always good to have an extra set of eyes. My horse usually could tell what's around before I did. We not only had big cats around (mountain lion, bobcat, and a couple lynx), but the odd wolf, wolverine, black bear, grizzly bear, and all the big raptors. One had to be aware all the time. I've had spots on a trail where the hair on the back of my neck stood staight out. Later, we would find pug marks from a big cat.
Devonai
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About Bears:
In this part of the country, one may encounter Black Bears or Brown Bears. Black Bears are generally docile and usually run away from humans. Brown Bears are known to be more aggressive and certain precautions should be taken. Wearing bells can help scare them away, and pepper spray should be used in the event of an attack.
How to spot droppings:
Black Bear droppings are generally small and contain berries and bark. Brown Bear droppings are larger, contain bells, and smell like pepper spray.
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In this part of the country, one may encounter Black Bears or Brown Bears. Black Bears are generally docile and usually run away from humans. Brown Bears are known to be more aggressive and certain precautions should be taken. Wearing bells can help scare them away, and pepper spray should be used in the event of an attack.
How to spot droppings:
Black Bear droppings are generally small and contain berries and bark. Brown Bear droppings are larger, contain bells, and smell like pepper spray.
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yy
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I'll carry my G27 IWB, but that'll be my SD weapon against the two-legged.
I'm carrying my folders in cross draw positions in case I get *ambushed*. figuring I'll have no time to draw pistol and aim before getting dragged or clawed.
Hence the knives for close quarter work. On second thought, I shoulda gotten a fixed blade on a shoulder holster.
I'm also wishing for a hardwood cane. Good against claws and snakes.
I'll carry my G27 IWB, but that'll be my SD weapon against the two-legged.
I'm carrying my folders in cross draw positions in case I get *ambushed*. figuring I'll have no time to draw pistol and aim before getting dragged or clawed.
Hence the knives for close quarter work. On second thought, I shoulda gotten a fixed blade on a shoulder holster.
I'm also wishing for a hardwood cane. Good against claws and snakes.
I usually carry some sort of "serious" pistol in the woods. My backpacking & fishing gun is a Colt Magnum Carry 357 full of 158 gr sjhp's. Lightweight, unobtrusive, lots of "bang".
One time up here I was pretty sure I was being watched/stalked by something.. and I'm not easily given the creeps, I was carrying a rifle in my hands. I slung the rifle, drew my 44 mag vaquero, and started checking my six every few steps. That feeling didn't leave me until I was inside my jeep.
Never has happened since. But for a while I just had the worst case of the heebie jeebies for lack of a better term, my skin was crawling. Not sure what was 'wrong" but the birds weren't squawking, the squirrels weren't barking, etc etc etc. Maybe it was bigfoot or aliens for all I know.
My thought was this, if I was going to get pounced, it would be up close, and I might not get my rifle into play in time. Keith explained about his mauling by a bear, that it happened so fast I don't think he ever got a shot off. If you watch that lion charge video.. working TWO shots from a Bolt Gun at a running animal that wants to eat you.. well that's a feat.
Killing a lion with a knife.. that's an act of desperation.. considering he's got what.. 5 knives on each foot and a mouth full of more? Still, any guy who killed a lion with a knife.. I'd give him a wide berth in the street.
One time up here I was pretty sure I was being watched/stalked by something.. and I'm not easily given the creeps, I was carrying a rifle in my hands. I slung the rifle, drew my 44 mag vaquero, and started checking my six every few steps. That feeling didn't leave me until I was inside my jeep.
Never has happened since. But for a while I just had the worst case of the heebie jeebies for lack of a better term, my skin was crawling. Not sure what was 'wrong" but the birds weren't squawking, the squirrels weren't barking, etc etc etc. Maybe it was bigfoot or aliens for all I know.
My thought was this, if I was going to get pounced, it would be up close, and I might not get my rifle into play in time. Keith explained about his mauling by a bear, that it happened so fast I don't think he ever got a shot off. If you watch that lion charge video.. working TWO shots from a Bolt Gun at a running animal that wants to eat you.. well that's a feat.
Killing a lion with a knife.. that's an act of desperation.. considering he's got what.. 5 knives on each foot and a mouth full of more? Still, any guy who killed a lion with a knife.. I'd give him a wide berth in the street.
Joe Demko
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Not much danger of mountain lion attack in PA. There are sometimes problems with feral dogs in the rural areas. When I go walking, I generally carry either a Makarov or a Kel Tec 9mm. Either one is better than yelling "sit!"
680x0
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I'd jus wrastle 'em
I'd probably use my 357 and my defense load of 125 JHP and about 17 gr of 2400. If the bullet doesn't kill em, the shockwave will
I'd probably use my 357 and my defense load of 125 JHP and about 17 gr of 2400. If the bullet doesn't kill em, the shockwave will
My very short-barrel "Limited Edition Sheriff's Model" .357 Vaquero. Loaded with 158-gr 'Blazer' SJHP.
[Not slamming Blazers, just seems to really live up to its name in my Vaquero. More muzzle flame than I remember with any other ammo]
If I can't hit the cat, I can probably set him on fire ! !
[Not slamming Blazers, just seems to really live up to its name in my Vaquero. More muzzle flame than I remember with any other ammo]
If I can't hit the cat, I can probably set him on fire ! !
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