What's right with a Taurus?

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My wife has an old Taurus model 85 she had when we got married. I have taken it out a few times as well as getting her to go with me to shoot it. It has performed fine though to be honest it hasn't seen the use & abuse my handguns take. I really haven't fooled with it too much as snubbies just aren't my preference.

As far as me buying a Taurus. I would be reluctant. I can't say never but it would be unlikely. There just isn't that much difference in between their prices & that of other manufacturers for me to take the risk I perceive buying one to be. Of course my opinion is formed by all the negative posts I have read about people having negative experiences with them. Whether that is right or wrong I have no idea but it wont change until I see a lot more positive posts about Taurus on a consistent basis than I have up until this point.
 
i own one taurus (pt111 9mm) and one rossi (38 sp. snubby) both have been completely flawless. i know some people have had problems but i would (and do) trust them with my life and my wifes. now lets talk numbers, if you take any gun manufacture and compare the number of guns produced verses the number of problems i'll bet you that most companies are very similar. And i'll also bet you that you will have a hard time nailing down a real number from any manufacture the REAL amount of reported problems or repairs they do in a given year!
 
Its that most of their customers have zero problems. These people are not on gun forums. The gun guys on the forums with issues are very vocal. So they face a 95% success rate and nobody hears about it.
 
I own multiple top of line revolvers, semi auto shotguns and pistols. I can afford any firearm I want at this point of my life (thank you Lord). I owned well over twenty Glocks before I bought my first Taurus. I own many different HKs, FNs, Sigs, S&Ws and Kahr's also. I ended up with my first Taurus because I was on a 45 kick and all the M&P's and all the Glocks plus the Kahr P45 just did'nt do it for me. I even made some hybrids they don't sell: the Glock 30/36, the M&P 45 covert and the Kahr P45 covert. The Taurus 24/7 compact is just what I was looking for all that time. Ended up getting a FS 24/7 and a 145 Pro also. NOBODY makes a 12+1 45ACP the size of the Glock 17 but Taurus. The grips on their double stack 45's are the smallest in the industry and they work. That's saying something IMO.
 
Its that most of their customers have zero problems. These people are not on gun forums. The gun guys on the forums with issues are very vocal. So they face a 95% success rate and nobody hears about it.
Well, there we all have the unrefutable facts!

Just reading this thread, even the Taurus owners write about the problems they faced. Yes, Taurus DOES have a great warranty, so does Hyundai because, as Jeff Holt says,
What I do like about them is the lifetime repair policy. Looks like I'll be using it alot.
iz what I have been saying all along, it's not something I will trust with my life. I do not hear as much Ruger/S&W/Colt/Springfield/etc bashing as we do certain manufacturers, including Taurus. Taurus has many good points, there one bad point is the amount of people that do not trust Taurus for a SD weapon, and cops, BTW, are not expert weapons-consultants by any means, neither am I. I would LOVE to see every American with a Taurus in their sock drawer if for no other reason than they should have the right to protect themselves, but it is by no means the best protection but definitely should do the job as a HD weapon. I may have insulted some people but that is only the ones that let their emotions guide them, this is not an emotional issue for rational people, it's a forum for people to learn from each other so if my words offend someone there is an ignore button.

The reason for a lot of the cylinder binding or problems having to do with the innards needing cleaning prior to range use.
Mine were as clean as a whistle. In one it was the cylinder crane that kept coming lose, in another it was the cylinder latch and in the last it was bad cylinder tolerances that stopped the cylinder from turning. I also experienced problems with the moon clips from the 905 and ruined threading on the screws that held the latch and grips.

On a positive note, Taurus will always have a following because they make good looking weapons that are less expensive than the competition. I see plenty of Hyundai's on the road too!


We cuurently have a thread going
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=632576
and the ratio of Taurus to everything else being carried is 5:133 counting one fellow that carries two Tauruses. I think for SD the numbers speak for themselves.
(I counted all the handguns that were used as carry and not weapons that were casually mentioned.)
 
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I don't know why people get so upset on crap like this...it's a gun, a thing, a tool, a product. You don't like 'em don't buy 'em. You do like 'em...great! It's not like anyone is talking about family members here or anything.

Personally I'd trust my life to a Taurus if I had to but that's my experience. In fact it is rare to find a new production firearm that is just an absolute lemon but they do exist which is why you try your guns before you trust them. When I was a new hunter my dad said "never carry an untried rifle" and though it may sound like sage wisdom to some, it's just common sense. Learn your weapon and develop a trust with it. I don't trust any weapon untried out of the box no matter the name stamped on it.
 
What's right with a Taurus?

Let's hear some positive things about Taurus firearms.

As one of the largest producers and sellers of firearms in the US/Brazil, surely there's good things to post about Taurus.

I own a few and have never had an issue, other than a bad magazine for a PT92, and some less than perfect finishing on a PT22.

My opinion is they're a very innovative company, coming out with guns others don't offer. Like a .380 revolver, the Judge (now S&W has the Governor), and a Tracker with interchangeable cylinders in 22lr and 22 Magnum.

My 85 had lustrous, dark blueing and never failed or underperformed in any way. Great little gun!

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I think a lot if not most Taurus hate probably stems from the fact that they are made in Brazil rather than the U.S. I can somewhat understand that even if I disagree (typed on a Chinese made keyboard hooked to a Chinese made computer running Taiwan made RAM) sent over fiber cable, switches ports and routers all made overseas. Looking good in my Bagladesh made shirt, my Mexican made pants, Chinese made shoes. :D
 
Not, that I'm a big handgun collector, by most standards my collection would have to to be rated as small- less than 20. Most are revolvers and just about all are Smiths. Save for one Taurus 85SS. Shoot it often and have no regrets on buying it. Over the years I learned the nicest thing you can say about anything you buy is, I would buy it again. Not only would I buy it, I would recommend it to others. And so I would for the Taurus I own. Let NOTHING you buy with money be a source of aggravation. Not happy with it Sell it! :)
 
i'm a firm believer in personal experiance, so i'm not going to get in a big debate over what i think (or what you think) about what guns are better - smith, taurus, ruger, hi-point . yea i threw hi-point in there on purpose, got a couple of buddys with about 2000 rounds a peice through them with out the smallest hicup!
 
I have seen a couple of Taurus Berettaoids do darned well.
One is owned by a guy who has a bigger collection than about the next three of us in town total, but he SHOOTS a Taurus. A lot. He claims to be on his third barrel and says the only weak point is a tendency to kick off the adjustable sight.

The other is the opposite, a Taurus is what he has, apparently all he has*. He carries and shoots it. A great lot. He ran into troubles with it after a lot of use and sent it back. Taurus C.S. pronounced it worn out and irreparable so they sent him a new one.

*All he has now. He wore out three Browning BDMs before going Taurus. He couldn't wear out a 1911 (Colt or SA, I don't remember which.) but he didn't like the .45 so he got in on an introductory coating shop deal and had it refinished and sold it.
 
I depend on my Taurus Millenium Pro .40 for SD because I have fired it a lot, have worked out the bugs and it has since break in worked flawlessly. Last summer I worked with it at the 10 yard tange. Extremely accurate. Not one problem with it.
ANY handgun should be thoroughly run though its paces before one can trust it and is totally comfortable taking it apart and re assembly. At this point I trust my Taurus Millenium.
Any firearm will have issues initially. That's why you have to work with it and be patient.
 
I don't have an issue with them in the slightest. In fact I went out of my way to get a Taurus over a Beretta even when I had the cash for the Beretta. The Taurus just has more advantages IMO.
RvR
 
I purchased a Rossi 461 .357 with a 3" barrel. It balanced well, held 6 shots instead of 5 as other small frame .357s do, had a great single action trigger and was the perfect size to conceal if I wanted to. The problem I had was it kept breaking firing pins, the trigger wouldn't always reset, I'd have to pry it back to reset. I wanted to have that thing work 100%, I really did but unfortunately it didn't, even after 5 trips back to Miami for warranty work, so I had to let go of it. I can't complain about the service in the aspect that they paid for shipping both ways, turn around was quick, I would get a letter in the mail saying they had received my gun and an estimate of how long it would take.........AFTER receiving my gun with the pin being replaced and it being looked at, so their speed was exceptional. I have fired a judge and that thing is a fun revolver and the guy that owns it hasn't had a single hiccup with it. I won't bash Taurus but I was very sad when my gun didn't want to cooperate.
 
Well, I do own a Rossi 462 and it is working just fine without any issues. Had it for several years now.

Shoot mainly .38 Specials through it. .357 magnum light loads like Remington Golden Saber 125 gr. or 140-158grain rounds are shot through it.
 
Like I said, not bashing the company. I think mine was just jinxed or something, especially after 5 trips for repair. Their service was great with the turn-around for shipping and receiving. I was kind of hoping their 28 GA revolver would have been allowed for production, that would have been a blast......pun intended.
 
I really did but unfortunately it didn't, even after 5 trips back to Miami for warranty work, so I had to let go of it. I can't complain about the service in the aspect that they paid for shipping both ways, turn around was quick, I would get a letter in the mail saying they had received my gun and an estimate of how long it would take.........AFTER receiving my gun with the pin being replaced and it being looked at, so their speed was exceptional.

Strange. I had to pay for shipping to Taurus. I here the same thing a lot. Some people pay one way, others don't pay anything. I think it must have something to do who answers the call, what time of day you call them, what they had for dinner the night before, what day of the week it is, whether they are wearing black shoes or brown shoes, whether or not the planets are in some specific spatial relationship to each other ... :confused:

I would say that, IMHO, you are being overly generous in your description of their CS. After all, speed is irrelevant (in my book) if they couldn't get it right after 5 trips. I think that might be a new record, BTW, lucky you ;).

You know what they say, if at first you don't succeed, you are doing it wrong! :D
 
Taurus vs Smith & Wesson; cost of plant & equipment, and cost of materials is similar. The main difference is the cost of labor is about half of that of S&W, so that is what you see mainly in the lower cost of the Taurus guns.
 
Well, there we all have the unrefutable facts!

Just reading this thread, even the Taurus owners write about the problems they faced. Yes, Taurus DOES have a great warranty, so does Hyundai...


On a positive note, Taurus will always have a following because they make good looking weapons that are less expensive than the competition. I see plenty of Hyundai's on the road too!


I guess we are to assume YOU are the bearer of the real "unrefutable" facts? (That's not a word, by the way.)

If your knowledge of Hyundai quality and reliability are anything to go by, you have no idea what you are talking about. I guess maybe you have a point since there are only 25 less reliable brands, including Audi, BMW, Scion, Honda, Chevrolet, Mazda, Nissan etc, etc.

http://www.jdpower.com/news/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2011029
 
I guess we are to assume YOU are the bearer of the real "unrefutable" facts? (That's not a word, by the way.)

Should have said irrefutable, thanks, couldn't think of the word. According to JD Powers, for overall quality VW gets 2 stars and Hyundai gets 3. Hmm, I"ll stick with my 50 years of accumulated knowledge and let JD Powers state whatever they want.

As for facts, all you need to do is read the thread again, way too many Pro-Taurus members speak of malfunctions. That's a fact.
My malfunctions with Taurus are a fact.
My non-malfunctions with everything else is also a fact.
The ratio of 5:133 that anyone can count is a fact.

In essence I am the bearer of facts.
I'm not to blame for the bad reutation that Taurus has so bash me all you want buddy, it won't change the above facts.
 
Should have said irrefutable, thanks, couldn't think of the word. According to JD Powers, for overall quality VW gets 2 stars and Hyundai gets 3. Hmm, I"ll stick with my 50 years of accumulated knowledge and let JD Powers state whatever they want.

As for facts, all you need to do is read the thread again, way too many Pro-Taurus members speak of malfunctions. That's a fact.
My malfunctions with Taurus are a fact.
My non-malfunctions with everything else is also a fact.
The ratio of 5:133 that anyone can count is a fact.

In essence I am the bearer of facts.
I'm not to blame for the bad reutation that Taurus has so bash me all you want buddy, it won't change the above facts.
I can only assume none of your "50 years of accumulated knowledge" dealt with any Hyundai vehicles over the last 10 years. Now, I wasn't even commenting on your Taurus facts, nor do I doubt them. I was commenting on your severely flawed analogy of using Hyundai as an example of poor reliability. They have been at or above Honda and Toyota for many years.

My other point is to illustrate how people will perpetuate a long-held and outdated belief regardless of current information. Long after Taurus handguns do become high quality and reliable firearms, there will always be someone willing to say "According to my 50 years of accumulated knowledge, they are crap".
 
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