What's wrong with Glocks?

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Let's be honest people.

The only reason why Glocks are "the standard" is because they gave a s###load of them away to police departments. Good marketing? Absolutely. Does that make the actual pistol any better than other modern poly-pistols. Not a chance.
If HK or Sig started passing out next-to-free weapons to any and every agency they could find, that would become the new "standard".
 
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Glocks. I just think that people can't understand why the function so well with so little. There's not a lot of fancy gadgets and safeties hanging off of the gun. Just pull the trigger, and you are ready to roll. Right now, most companies are trying to develop a polymer pistol to compete with Glock. So what does this say? Glocks must have something going for them for companies to develop a competitor. People can say they aren't as accurate as Sigs or other 1911's all they want, especially regarding self defense. If I need to fire upon a bad guy, he will be pretty close, not 30-40 yds away. I'll put my G19 up against any of them. It's the shooter who's accurate, not the firearm.
 
Wrong Taurus. Glocks are on the side of many LEO's because of reliability, capacity, and ease of maintenance. It's that simple. Of course Glock can throw in a few extra pistols if the majority of law enforcement agencies are purchasing them. It's called a package deal. :)
 
I'll chime in on this with a quick reply.:uhoh:

Nothing is wrong with Glocks. I have numerous.
I also have other firearms but at this juncture of my life I shoot Glocks along with the others.

Anyone who feels they are not good, is entitled to their opinion also.;)

HQ
 
I have 10 handguns, including the new Colt Series 80 I just bought yesterday. But guess which gun is my goto for ccw? My Glock.
 
My first auto was a G17. Great gun for a beginner. Carry gun is a G26. Nice having 12 rounds on tap, and not feeling like your lugging a tank all day. Glocks are by no means perfect, but they are reliable, reasonably accurate, easy to maintain. Could they be better? Sure, but every gun can be improved.
 
I am jumping past probably a lot of similar answers here, but the Glock is a fine gun. Gaston Glock achieved his objective of creating a revolver-like autoloader. And it's lightweight and holds lots of rounds. The only problem with a Glock is that it has too many trade-offs. Kind of like driving a mini-van. It makes a ton of sense, but is not too exciting.

The 2 major drawbacks (not NECESSARILY problems) for a Glock IMHO:

1. No external safety. If you somehow snag the trigger pulling it out of the holster, it can go off. There are many cases of this, but that just says "be more careful with your pistol".

2. The trigger. Comparing a Glock trigger to something like a tuned 1911 is like comparing a pickup truck to a Porsche. But we will always compare. They typically serve two very different purposes - Glock for a defensive-minded shooter and 1911 for a pistol aficionado who knows his/her weapon.

These "drawbacks" are truly good "features" of the Glock that make it a useful weapon for its purpose - simple self defense with minimal training and practice.

I always think of it this way: I love the trigger on my 1911. I know the various safeties and I practice. I can punch holes through holes on paper and I know when it's safe and when it's just a few pounds of pressure from killing someone. A 1911 would be a great home defense gun for me.

Thinking of extreme circumstances, I could never, ever, ever hand a 1911 to my untrained wife, children, neighbor, etc. "Keep this thumb-thingey up until you're ready to shoot because the trigger is light...and after you shoot, be sure to flick the thumb thingey back up because otherwise it will shoot again with just a little pressure on the trigger..."

I might hand a Glock to someone in a dire situation because I can explain it in about 1 second..."keep you finger out of here until you want to shoot. Pull trigger - it goes bang". This precaution also applies to me groggy from sleep. I can more safely deal with a Glock while 1/2 awake.

The Glock is your everyday Minivan/SUV/pickup truck. Great designs for their purpose. Nothing wrong with simple, basic functionality.

The minivan design can serve a family well, but it's never going to win Daytona.
 
I use it for a house gun, keep the trigger in the pulled position and nothing in the chamber. :what:

That way I am pretty secure in the fact that there will be no accidentals:uhoh:

For those who will disagree, "don't", it is safer that way, and still a very good item to have around ready for action.;)
 
I don't presently own a Glock, but I have owned and fired both a 19 and 26. From what I know, they're light, they don't rust, break or wear out, they never jam, they hit where they look, and they're simple to operate with no bells or whistles.
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Nothing wrong with a Glock, BUT inspite of what you hear the DO jam. In the IDPA style club matches, I seen a G19, G21, G23 and G36 all jam. This does not mean there is a problem with them, just that any mechanical device can fail and they do.
 
Wrong Taurus. Glocks are on the side of many LEO's because of reliability, capacity, and ease of maintenance. It's that simple. Of course Glock can throw in a few extra pistols if the majority of law enforcement agencies are purchasing them. It's called a package deal.
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Uh, dude, don't delude yourself. I sell lots of stuff to police departments, including guns. The Glock LE bulk price is about HALF of Sig or HK. And price is usually concern #1 of the police admin. And sadly, on many departments, the guys usually signing off on the purchasing rec barely understand that the bullets come out the pointy end of the gun.
 
I don't like Kahrs. Does that mean they suck? It does in my world but they might be the cats meow in yours. I like Glocks, some don't, its that simple.
 
The grip angle gripe always cracks me up. Learn to friggin' shoot!

The fundamentals are the same for sighted and indexed shooting.


You should be able to pick up any handgun and fight with it. Same goes with a rifle or shotgun. If that's what hits the dirt in front of you, don't let it bounce twice! It's NOT about accuracy in terms of tiny groups. Save that for gun games. The self-defense game is about scoring hits and altering behavior (since that's what a Glock is for; so is a stock 1911). You never know; maybe the goblin is holding a S&W M10 and you can do a grab...go for it and stick the barrel in his eye!

Kill the bad guys, go home, and pull the expensive toys out of the safe and be thankful you have them.
 
I can think of at least five guns that *I* think are better looking than any Glock, or grips that feel better, or triggers that I like more. For some reason, I always feel guilty about shooting the crap out of the rest of them, though. The Glock is easy to use and abuse, and I can't say I *dislike* shooting it. Thus it's been easy to become proficient with it.

Low parts count, easy maintenance, reliable, accurate gun. The G19 works wonders for me as a functional gun, even if it doesn't win any beauty contests.

jm
 
Nothing wrong with Glock - just Glock owners ;)

Seriously, it's a fine pistol, albeit ugly (and even the latter is a matter of perception). I think it's like Beretta 92 owners - when the movies first came out, people had to have a 92... then the Glocks came out in movies, people have to have them, etc, etc.

A Glock is the first refuge of the would-be cognoscenti because so many real cognoscenti carry them, so it's hard to separate the two - until the triggers are pulled.
 
My s-i-l's boss bought one ten years ago.I got my turn to shoot it and absolutely hated the way it felt in my hand, then I read about the FBI agent killing the innocent man in the next room at the Holiday Inn, while field stripping his.If the design is so perfect why do you have to pull the trigger to field strip it.Then I read about the numerous kabooms with the 40s&W model. glock03kaboom.jpg Sorry no Glocks for me!
 
Whats wrong with the Glock?

The frame flexes during recoil with full power 10mm loads. I liked my G20 but the frame flexy thing just put me off. After about 4000 rounds, I gave up and realized that I could not get over it and sold it off.
 
My s-i-l's boss bought one ten years ago.I got my turn to shoot it and absolutely hated the way it felt in my hand, then I read about the FBI agent killing the innocent man in the next room at the Holiday Inn, while field stripping his.If the design is so perfect why do you have to pull the trigger to field strip it.Then I read about the numerous kabooms with the 40s&W model.Sorry no Glocks for me!
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To each his own. I love mine... and others love theirs.

And as for pulling the trigger to field strip the gun... if you are following the basic rules for firearm handling there will be NO issues... if you can't follow the basic rules... you have no business handling firearms at all. There is no excuse.
 
As for the KB issues... usually it is caused by improper reloading or bullet setback.

Never had any KBs with my Glock 23 or my two Glock 27s. Other guns have KBed before too. It is not only Glocks.
 
I bought a Glock 19 in 1994. Fired about 30,000 rounds through it, and don't ever remember a problem. It was reliable, but it was NOT something with a soul. Sold it last year and bought a CZP-01. Now THAT has a soul.:)
 
Grip angle: Just a thought, but I learned to shoot as a kid with air pistols of several varieties, and am a fairly good shot with any of the several pistols I have fired. The Glock appears to be quite "middle of the road" in terms of grip angle, and I don't think I would change it, if I could. Actually, the one and only gun I have fired which I have had issue with grip angle is the 1911. While I could shoot it quite accurately, the flat grip angle made it a little tiresome and added to difficulty in finding the front sight. The 1911 seems to be quite on the extreme of grip angle. IS there a modern full size gun made today with a FLATTER grip angle than the 1911? Aside from sighting, the flatter the grip angle, the higher the bore axis becomes, relative to the ulna. So maybe Glock actually got this part right?

Also, consider that adding topside optics will significantly decrease the effective grip angle.

Regarding "index" shooting: that has got to be a joke. If they are close enough to shoot without looking at the sights, then the grip angle won't matter. If you need any degree of accuracy, then you at least need to see the front sight. If you are going for a fast, somewhat aimed shot... it's much better to see the top of the slide and float the point of impact above the sights... rather than to be stuck seeing just the back sight, having the back sight blocking out half of your target picture, and guessing where the front sight might be, or when it might show up.

Regarding the comment about the snake: If there is actually one person that could accidentally shoot a low flying plane with a glock, there are at least ten others that could accidentally shoot their own foot with a 1911. :)
 
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"Generic, cheap, and mass produced." This is the reason I like the Glock. I bought it to protect myself and my other assets... not to be something else I have to worry about or miss if managed to be pinched... though I do keep it in a safe, bolted to the floor, when I leave it unattended. But that is definitely one reason to hate it, if you are really into quality craftsmanship versus high quality design.
 
So what's the problem with Glocks?

Not a damned thing. Every manufacturer weathers bumps in the road and Glock has been no exception. Although, many of their problems have been rather minor. Many of the criticisms have to do with subjective issues such as appearance and fit to the person.
 
Sure hope nothing is wrong with Glocks!!! Did some serious
trading for a Model 27 with a 9 & 13 round mags. Having toted
wheel and a 1911 for awhile, I really need something for age
friendly concealed carry. While waiting for an ordered hoslter,
I pray this sucker will be half as accurate as my other handguns.
Will use PD hyro shock Federals (180 gr). Plan to load medium,
same weight gold dots for practice. Realizing reloads void warrenty,
remanufactured and some new stuff is not letter perfect. It doesn't
sound like accuracy is a problem with them. What ever could be
a down side and is a problem, could always wear a for sale sign
the next day. A carry with 9 and a back up mag with 13 should
cover most situations with a 40 cal! Size seems ideal with a
comparison big 7 round 1911 A1. An all day carry has to be more
comfortable and easier to conceal. May have to change trigger
connector, but a much easier fix than getting the 1911 good to go
it appears. Maybe get a filler for the 13s magazines to fill the gap
on the frame. Hope it works out cause it really appear to be a
pretty comfortable carry.:D
 
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