Whats your idea of the perfect trail gun?

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I'm wanting a revolver for woods/trail/hiking carry. I have a 642 and SP101(2") and I'm already set up to load for 38/357. I've gone back and fourth on several different guns which include but at not limited to; SP101(3"), 4.5" SS Blackhawk .357, GP100, 686, 66, and others I can't remember. If you haven't noticed they are all stainless. Seems better to me in a trail gun.

So, what do you think? Whats your ideal trial/woods gun?

(BTW I'm in NW MO so we see feral hogs, mountain lions, black bear(only rumored) and rabid squirrels.)
 
A trail gun is one that you can shoot fairly well. The term "kit gun" used to be used for marketing small easily carried firearms which are part of an overall "trail kit" which is carried. I divide my choices into rimfire and centerfire. My favorite rimfire trail gun is a 4" Colt Diamondback and I really like this little Smith Model 18 (4") 22 that I picked up. Both can be comfortably worn with a belt holster or tucked away into a pack if the situation calls for such discretion.

On the centerfire side, my preferences are for what I shoot fairly well and still have sufficient power for most any need. They are: 6" Colt Trooper Mark III 357 Mag or a 4" Smith Model 57 41 Mag Mountain Gun. The Trooper weighs about as much as the Smith. I have holsters for both and they carry fine with a stiff leather gun belt.

The choice depends on where I am hiking, anticipated dangers, and how long I will be in the woods or on the trail. I really prefer to carry a 22 for the most part although I have been leaning toward the centerfires for protection reasons.

As for your choices, I would not choose the 642 as I doubt you can shoot it very well (at least I can't except at close range). The SP101 is an okay choice, but I would lean toward the GP100 in either a 3" or 4" configuration. I like my 3" quite a bit and I sometimes use it as a trail gun or for walks in the woods. I don't have a SP101. Just never could see why I would choose one over the GP100 other than for concealment. Your trail choices seem to lean toward protection from humans and mine lean toward enjoyment, food procurement, or bear protection. I am not particularly concerned about bears unless I'm in Alaska or the Northern Rockies, but I really like the 41mags. The 357 mag is a great caliber with a lot of flexibility.
 
My current favorite is a S&W 66-3 3" (yes, it's 3"!).
I'm in southern boone co. Haven't seen any scary critters down here, other than the two-legged meth'ed up variety.
 
I hear about scary critters and have run into people in the woods that made me nervous. I have seen some rabid skunks and racoons from time to time and a handgun is useful for dispathing one of them as they have frequently lost their fear of humans. Feral dogs are another reason to carry in the woods. Meth-heads or a outdoor lab is another possibility, but I can't say it's common. Most meth trash seen in the woods was dumped there and the cook was done somewhere else. Black bears in the Southeast mountains are a concern and the handgun would be a last resort. There are just getting to be too many black bears that have lost their fear of people due to hitting trash cans, picnic areas, garbage dumps, and other places where humans hang out and have food. A 3" revolver works well for everything other than food procurement and can be comfortable carried afield.
 
I would never plan to use my 642 as a primary back woods protection gun at all. At the very most I would slip it in my pocket as a very last ditch effort. :) I realize that my two revolvers aren't the best for the trail. I do have a SA GI 1911a1, a CZ 75B, and Makarov. Again, none are ideal IMHO.

clipse
 
a 357 with propper ammo is a great trail gun in your neck of the woods. However, I would want moore if I was in grizzly or moose country.
 
A Ruger GP-100 4" with a rubber Hogue mono grip stoked with Winchester Partition Gold 180gr JHPs.

Good and controllable against every man and beast in the lower 48. My revolver is a tank, the grip is weatherproof and expendable. The sights are adjustable. The barrel is long enough while still quick to deploy. The ammo hits like Thor's hammer.

I have some sparely charged wadcutter for a small game load and always take some shotshells on a speedloader for snakes and other unexpected needs.
 
i use a ruger vaquero in 45 colt. a bit heavy (not too bad)....nice fixed sights that won't break or misalign if dropped....250 gr 45 colt gold dots in pistol with buffalo bore 45 +P in pocket for bigger threats. bulit like a tank. less moving parts than a DA.
 
I carry a 2 1/2" Taurus Tracker .44 Mag. when hiking/backpacking. It is durable, small, and the .44 mag. is good for most of what I will come across in the woods. On my way to the hiking spot, I can carry it concealed with .44 specials in it for people. A very handy little pistol.
 
My idea of a 'packin' pistol' is my 625 MG in .45 Colt. I now have a spare, so my first one, a 625-7 MG my wife gave me 9/02, can be retired due to it's sentimental value. I have a set of Dymondwood Combats on the newer acquisition - actually a 625-6 from '96. With either 255gr LSWC's or the Speer #4484 250 gr Gold Dot JHP's at 850+ fps, the 4" 39.5 oz DA-capable six shooter should be potent enough for any situation in your area. Sadly, .45 Colts are not the most widely available round.

Perhaps a better choice - also with many readily available commercial ammo choices is the 629 Mountain Gun. If you cannot find one, consider just a standard 4" 629 - a catalog item. It actually has a better front & rear sight, and larger trigger and hammer - I have one, and it's additional 2 oz isn't noticeable. A Hogue .500 Magnum grip will eat up the recoil quite effectively.

My first S&W - a 625-7 MG from '01 Top, and a 625-6 MG from '96 Bottom.

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My 6" 629 and 4" 629 - both sporting .500 Magnum Hogue grips.

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Stainz
 
I like my Colt Woodsman -- a fine gun for all small game. When I carry a heavier gun, it's usually either a .357 (often my Colt 2nd Gen SAA) or a Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt.
 
My candidates, in no particular order:

3" M65
M696 (3")
M396 (3")
3" 686+ (7 shots)
3" M66
2.75" Ruger Security or Speed Six
3" M60 (nominated as the "Trail Masterpiece by John Taffin)
3.75" Ruger Vaquero

The last one's a bit of a stretch. The N frames are just to big for my purposes - YMMV.

Edit to add: SP101 3" (wish it had adjustable sights)
 
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No one "ideal" gun for me, I guess. I like the 3-inch S&W 317 AirLite for a rimfire and a 4-inch Ruger GP100 for a center fire. YMMV.
 
A bud of mine is an Outdoor Officer. The most dangerous creatures he sees in the woods are humans making methadone. This Gentleman is a Marine Corp Vietnam veteran, and positively has the most fierce expression you can imagine. Basically he intimidates people out of committing violent actions. Believe it or not he was carrying a Charter Arms five shot 38 Spl which was missing its crane screw. I think he carried that for years. When you opened the cylinder, crane and cylinder came off in your hand. The last time I asked him what he was carrying, he had gotten some compact 45ACP. Might have been a Kimber.

What I would carry, if I had to walk in, is my Charter Arms Bulldog. Bobbed hammer with some good factory reloads. Or I might be tempted to carry my M638 Smith and Wesson body guard. I am only interested in protecting myself from the two legged predators. Everything else that I have seen, in the woods of Alabama, runs away from people.
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Ruger Blackhawk in .357 with 4 5/8" bbl. A well balanced, not too heavy, accurate and reliable gun. Stainless is a bonus. Price is about 400. Gun will around after all of us are gone. Will handle wadcutters for rabbits all the way up to heavy duty BB ammo for small black bears. JMHO Bill
 
I'm very happy with my S&W Model 619. You get 7 rounds of .357 Magnum and a half underlug barrel for a little lighter frame. (like the old Mountain guns) You won’t need more in the lower 48 States. I like it a lot... (don't forget the Hard Case bullets)
 
If I'm somewhere that I don't have to worry about anything particularly big, my idea of a trail gun is the gun I carry with me when in town.

I'm happy with either a 1911 or a Springfield XD9.

If I'm somewhere that the air is a bit thinner, temperature cooler, lots of trees and larger wildlife then I might carry my 1911 if I'm feeling lazy, but typically it is a 44magnum wheelgun. I just got a 4" Ruger Redhawk that I am particularly fond of, but the 5.5" Redhawk in my safe has lots of woods-tromping miles on it and the holster wear to prove it.
 
I don't own one but if I had to go out and fend for myself in the great wilds of Illinois with just a handgun at my side, I do believe a Smith and Wesson Model 48 6 inch .22 magnum would serve the purpose quite well.
 
"Black bears in the Southeast mountains are a concern and the handgun would be a last resort. There are just getting to be too many black bears that have lost their fear of people due to hitting trash cans, picnic areas, garbage dumps, and other places where humans hang out and have food."
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Same situation here in north GA mountains. Three women have been killed near here in the last couple of years and one child was badly mauled, all by black bears. I don't bame the bears, they just act on animal instinct. I blame the people, usually from Atlanta, who carelessly leave food and fish heads and entrails at the many camprounds, fishing streams, and roadside picnic tables in this area, and also the local people who leave stinking garbage in their yards where bears can easily find it. I have had a full grown mother bear and a cub in my yard sniffing around the barbecue pit before, but I stayed in the house until she decided there was nothing there to eat and led the cub off into the woods again.

I live way out in the hills, and when my wife and I take our daily walks on doctor's orders I used to carry a little Beretta .22 pocket pistol just in case I ran across a copperhead, rattler, or rabid small animal. I killed a coon and a possum with it that were both acting very strangely, but I don't know if they were rabid or just very sick with something else. The county wildlife officer said there were a lot of coons and other small animls sick in the woods that spring due to the unusually wet and cold weather but were not rabid.

But after a pair of very agressive Rottweilers from out of nowhere recently treed an electric co-op lineman for a few hours on a power pole just down the road from here, I started carrying a model 66 .357 mag instead. There are also plenty of half crazy meth cookers in these woods nowadays, so I carry it loaded with 158 grain Hydrashoks and also carry a speedloader full of my 158 grain hard cast SWC reloads which I figure will take care of any 2 or 4 footed varmints in this neck of the woods if I put them in the right spot. A really big boar bear with an attitude would be harder to stop than anything else around here, but I think 6 of those SWCs would do the trick if I wasn't too scared to put them in the right place. A.41 or .44 mag would be much better for that purpose, but the chances of being attacked by that big boar bear are so slim that I'm willing to gamble on the .357 doing the job if that very unlikely attack ever takes place instead of laying out $400-$500 for the least expensive .44 mag I can buy around here. I have shot my friend's Anaconda occasionally but I don't really enjoy shooting it enough to buy one.

But for a trail gun in MO I think a good quality 4" medium frame .357 revolver carried with full house hard lead SWCs in the cylinder and a speedloader of .38 sp wadcutters or snakeshot rounds in your pocket or backpack would fill the bill quite nicely. If you have reason to fear a run-in with 2-legged predators in your area, a 2nd speedloader of 125 grain .357 hollowpoints might not be a bad idea. These are just my thoughts on the matter, and I'm no expert so take it for what it's worth.
 
I said earlier a S&W 65 3", but any of these will be great
Ruger sp101, 2" shown, but prefer the 3"
S&W 13 3"
S&W 65 with custom installed 4" pencil barrel
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Also a Colt Woodsman or a S&W 35-1 or a S&W 60 with 3" barrel and adjustable sights
 
Id say any good, relatively light wieght revolver with a 3-6 inch barrel and in .357 or larger caliber.
 
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