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Defund the police.
Tax the rich.
Vote by proxy.
Tear up the constitution.
Ignore the law.

Sound familiar?
Funny, my brain was heading in the same direction.

Control freaks. Sounds like it's time for a downheaval.

Anyone checking out the Treasurer/Treasury?

Read the Bylaws, word for word. I said word for word.

On the other hand, when you talk to others about negative things, they have a tendency to agree with you regardless of their actual feelings. Don't overestimate the strength of your position.

Just sayin'.

Terry, 230RN
 
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I always take the path of least resistance. When I moved here 42 years ago I was overjoyed to shoot outdoors in many open places. After 10 years and multiple LE warnings about "armed trespass" I started to frequent local indoor/ outdoor ranges. After years of "unsafe incidents" (some were scary as heck) at local ranges, 4 years ago the Florida Fish and Game folks opened a very nice facility about 30 miles east of me. It ain't ideal but zero bullet holes in fixtures, adequate good natured staff and if'n you go Monday or Friday morning at opening (only openFri-Mon) it looks like this. Do not be discouraged. Joe
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The only decent outdoor shooting range within reasonable distance (less than 30 miles) charges $250/yr. PLUS $100 "work fee", although they waive the work fee for the next year after you complete 3 work days. There is a $50 initiation fee as well.
 
Sounds like the OP needs to take a walk.

I've been in computer clubs, a gun club, a radio club, and all three of them are gone now. All of them died after power struggles between the original leadership and a new regime, or the rules the new regine came up with. The radio club was the quickest of the three to collapse. The original founder died after a very short bout with lung cancer. His job as president was taken over by his VP and all seemed well, until a few months later, when 3 people announced their candidacy for pres, VP, and treasurer. The club divided almost exactly 50/50 and the new guy wanting to be president sent out a letter full of lies about the former VP who was them president. Even after the claims were proven false, he kept on repeating them, both in letters and in person. The new people lost and they convinced their followers to leave and form a new club. Both the new and orignal died soon afterwards. The original group literally died off, the new one's leadership drove people away with insane rules and money demands.

The gun club was a mess when I joined it, but new leadership and, it seems like it always happens, whacky rules made me bail on it. They came up with some nonsense requiring members to have their guns "approved" by the club before shooting at the range one of the bigshots was connected to. It was for no reason other to make money for uneeded "repairs", etc. My 100% mechanically sound S&W 28-2 was found to need "new grips" and a new hammer. The grips were well worn, but not falling apart, and the hammer was simply shiny from holster wear. At that point, I had enough and told everyone at one of the meetings. I must be more convincing than I thought, as a bunch of other people quit that night. Soon the club was just a memory. I shot that gun for several years without an issue, and sold it untouched.
 
I wouldn't be concerned about most of the issues the OP had except for the "allowing the public on" as that would have snapped it for me. Sooner or later, they will have a safety event with the public and it could all be over then. Or, the public hours will become more and more till you have nothing.

I would did into the bylaws as mentioned and the accounting. Where is the $$ going?

If left alone I don't mind a couple of hundred $$ per year. However, if you start to take days away from me with public hours, then I get hot. What am I paying for in that case?!?!

Not sure where you are but may want to look about buying some land to shoot on. With a few buddies kicking in that may be an option. Not without it's own issues I know, but worth looking into at times. I have had 2 guys I know do that recently when they had no other good options left.
 
I wouldn't be concerned about most of the issues the OP had except for the "allowing the public on" as that would have snapped it for me. Sooner or later, they will have a safety event with the public and it could all be over then. Or, the public hours will become more and more till you have nothing.

I would did into the bylaws as mentioned and the accounting. Where is the $$ going?

If left alone I don't mind a couple of hundred $$ per year. However, if you start to take days away from me with public hours, then I get hot. What am I paying for in that case?!?!

Not sure where you are but may want to look about buying some land to shoot on. With a few buddies kicking in that may be an option. Not without it's own issues I know, but worth looking into at times. I have had 2 guys I know do that recently when they had no other good options left.
Used to be Sunday from 12-2 was a public shoot and Wednesday from 5-7 a public shoot. Now it’s 9-1 Saturday and 12-5 Sunday. No shooting before noon Sunday. What did it in for me was one instance on Wednesday not one public person showed up and I took my boss to sight in his elk rifle for a trip he paid thousands for. One of the range committee guys told me no because it was military surplus rifle night and my boss has a Ruger Hawkey in 7mm. I waited until 515pm and not a single soul showed up except one other club member. I said okay, let us shoot and he said no. Oh and I forgot to mention to everyone when they do these “public shoots” with steel and other stuff members even must pay to shoot that night.
 
I once belonged to a club that imposed work hours & specified Saturdays. That's a no go for me. It dosent help when the directors are a bunch of jerks that do not follow there own rules. I think a lot of clubs have issues like that. They sponsored a gun raffle & the directors won all the guns & all the cash prizes. It really looked bad.
 
Used to be Sunday from 12-2 was a public shoot and Wednesday from 5-7 a public shoot. Now it’s 9-1 Saturday and 12-5 Sunday. No shooting before noon Sunday. What did it in for me was one instance on Wednesday not one public person showed up and I took my boss to sight in his elk rifle for a trip he paid thousands for. One of the range committee guys told me no because it was military surplus rifle night and my boss has a Ruger Hawkey in 7mm. I waited until 515pm and not a single soul showed up except one other club member. I said okay, let us shoot and he said no. Oh and I forgot to mention to everyone when they do these “public shoots” with steel and other stuff members even must pay to shoot that night.
Again, this sort of stuff is purely unacceptable; I'm sorry, but I don't see how you're going to be able to stick in there and effect any changes with such entrenched mismanagement in place.

This sounds to me exactly like what I've seen before -- a club whose management is ensuring that the club is going to die a painful death. At this point, I'd just be hoping a new organization would be able to take control of the grounds and start a new club with some enlightened people in charge.
 
Let me know what you guys think? Sending to the president and VP tomorrow.

To whom this may concern,


I am an active club member and have been for about 10yrs. Over these years I have seen some changes come to the club that myself and other members I have spoken to feel are a concern. Such a concern that it has caused some to leave the club, some searching for another club and some who feel the financial burden of the club’s excessive costs to be a member. Each year I notice more and more members leave the club due to work hours. People simply cannot afford it nor is there enough hours to go around. Are you aware that other clubs in the area that range between $120-yr with no work hours to $180yr with no work hours? Both clubs offer way more shooting amenities than our club. I understand the need for work to be done at the club but IMO and my experience there is not much to be done except cutting the grass and replacing the target boards every half year. The reason I am writing today is to hopefully address some concerns myself and other members I have talked to have and find some common ground for everyone.


1) Work hours: A lot of us feel there is not enough work to go around for the entire membership and feel the cost of work hours is used to increase the cost of the yearly dues. $65yr is dirt cheap and such a club would warrant $120-yr or $150-yr. The cost of $65-yr dues plus $20-hr work hours comes to $305 plus $50 to be an NRA member. Now we are up to $350-yr. This is a lot of money for most people’s budget. When I joined and dues were $65 and work hours $15-hr and we had guys such as Tony Z and Tony G running building and lands there were multiple work parties a year. The range was shut down on a Saturday or Sunday morning and everyone came out and cleaned the entire grounds, replaced railroad ties, target hangers, repaired benches, etc. Now it seems like unless you’re a committee member or retired there are no hours to be had or its very, very hard to get them. Yes, we have grass cutting but after speaking with some members who have tried to mow in the mornings, they say it’s very hard because minimal equipment or the same crew, who get 40-50 work hours a year hog it all up. I have literally been sent home when I came to cut the grass because there were “too many people”. I have brought up in meetings about fixing benches, staining them, fixing gutters, etc. to gain work hours. and on several occasions, I have been told it would be brought up the next meeting or someone would contact me. A few days later I find the stuff repaired by someone on a committee or no one contacted anyone. I am not the only member this has happened to. It seems to be the norm for quite a few people. Quite simply, your work hours dues are too high and while 12hrs is not a lot of hours to contribute a year the cost is a lot to contribute when hours are taken by committee members or members who do the work during the week while everyone else is at work. If you want to make the club money than raise the dues instead of forced labor.

2) Range: Our range is pitiful. The pistol area is always a muddy mess, the benches are all wobbly and need stained, the horse mats need replaced on some of the bench tops. I have noticed on multiple occasions members bringing more than 2 guests and then you must sit and wait to shoot rifle while 4-5 guys shoot pistol and stand around BS. Last year we asked for a separate pistol range to be put in where the empty field is, and it was denied. Issues such as this should be approved by the board not 1/3 of the membership. Having a separate pistol range would be safer than shooting pistol and having people behind you messing with rifles while your “down range”. It would also be effective in time saving for members who say just want to shoot 50rds of pistol or sight in/check a rifle and not have to wait an hour for the next shooter to finish. It would also help pistol shoots to not have a mud pit to shoot in and the club could run pistol matches without interfering with the rest of the membership wanting to shoot rifle or pistol when a club match is going on.


3) Membership voting: We have 100-150 members, and it appears that the same 40 guys show to every meeting and either vote in what they want or vote out what they don’t want and the heck with the rest of the membership. It appears ½ if not more of the club is retired and can make every meeting to have their voice heard but a lot of us work, have kids, etc. and cannot make it to meetings. Letting the same 20-30 guys vote on issues without getting input from all 100-150 members is not how a club should be run. It appears to me and a few others that unless you’re a 20-30yr member your vote, opinion and ideas do not count for anything. Its time we get some fresh blood on these committees, board, etc. and stop letting the same groups decide what happens for everyone who is a paying member. I suggest that letters and emails are sent to all members and votes are created by all members and not the ones who show to the meetings. Last year our work hour dues were


4) Work Parties: As I stated above, the work parties seem to be far and few between. For those of us that can’t cut the grass during the morning there is grass cutting in the evening. Some of us work until 430-530pm and they start cutting grass at 3pm-330pm so what’s the point of showing up to get sent home. It also appears that unless you show up to a meeting you won’t know when work parties are done. This past meeting, I showed up and heard about the backstop being worked on. Well once again the work was done on a Tuesday, not enough notice for anyone and done early in the morning. I bet that took a lot of work hours away from guys willing to do it on a weekend or the evening. Same as with the concrete for the turkey shoots. We need help with the concrete and doing other work, but we are going to do it on a Wednesday at 10am while most the membership is at work. Get everyone together every 2-3 months on a weekend and fix stuff, paint stuff, clean stuff.


5) Meetings: We have a pandemic going on here and everyone is encouraged to attend the meetings that everyone is crammed in like sardines and not a single person is wearing a face covering. I have my health and the health of my family to be concerned about and do not feel comfortable attending the meetings with everyone crammed together. Since every monthly meeting is the equivalent of 6 work hours some work hours should be removed for those of us not willing to chance our health if you’re not willing to fix the issue of select members taking all the work hours.


6) Equipment: There appears to be a serious issue with select members shooting down new equipment for the club. Our mowers are 10+ years old. We have push mowers that the morning guys stick you with that look and perform like something out of Sanford and son junk yard. Any time a member suggests getting new equipment its always shot down by a select few. Majority of the membership should rule, not just a select few. Once again, things such as this should be left up to the board or the entire membership.


It just appears to me after Tony Z passed away the club is more concerned with money than ever before. No one can get hours in due a small group of committee members, and retirees taking up all the work hours. Once you hit 12hrs you should be done and work parties should be held once a month to get members involved, get work done instead of it being hogged by a select few. We went from having club shoots on Wednesday and Sunday at noon to 3 days a week now and on peek days like the weekends. All to raise money for the club that should be spent on stuff like mowers, archery targets, new benches and not passed out to committee members each year, and other nonsense. Use the 3-acre field in the back for a pistol range or skeet. This way it doesn’t need mowed, and we don’t have to wait for the Wednesday shoots to be over or have the range hogged up. Buy some new archery targets for us hunters. All the 3d targets are ruined because they are let sit outside and be rained on. Put gravel or concrete or even blacktop at the pistol range area so we don’t have to wade through mud and water to change targets or shoot. I’ve been a member for a long time and there are good people in the club but also some who are just out to hoard the club money and shoot everything down they don’t like. What’s a club or a membership if you allow the same 20 guys to have a say so. Seems like unless you’ve been a member for 20+ years your opinion doesn’t mean squat.


Sincerely,


Concerned Member.
 
correct me if I'm wrong, but if the range is closed 2 days a week to members so public can pay to shoot 104 days per year, than I would ask to pro-rate membership costs to reflect that.

I would be asking for paperwork pertaining to where exactly the money is being spent, if your dealing with mud at the pistol range and old equipment its safe to assume not all the money is being spent on the club, ask for an audit, see how they react, providing a ledger and reciepts should not be an issue.

thats my thoughts, I will chime back in if I think of anything else.
 
The "work party" sounds weird. Is that a thing? I know at my range in years past they used to give the guy who opened and set up for trap a free round, but it was on a volunteer basis.

My range is $30 (thirty dollars) per year. They had some new stupid rules that upset me when I found out about them earlier this spring, like no silhouette targets but after reading your OP I am thankful that my range isn't an oppressive dictatorship trying to run a work camp.

Sorry, I would either band together with some buds and try to topple the regime or walk away and go find a private piece of woods to shoot at.
 
correct me if I'm wrong, but if the range is closed 2 days a week to members so public can pay to shoot 104 days per year, than I would ask to pro-rate membership costs to reflect that.

I would be asking for paperwork pertaining to where exactly the money is being spent, if your dealing with mud at the pistol range and old equipment its safe to assume not all the money is being spent on the club, ask for an audit, see how they react, providing a ledger and reciepts should not be an issue.

thats my thoughts, I will chime back in if I think of anything else.
Was 2 days a week and now 3 days a week. Wednesday 5-7 or later depending on how many people show. If you wanna shoot it better be a pistol and you have to pay like $10-15. Used to be $5. Doesn’t matter if your a member or not you must pay. Sundays 12-3 or again whenever they get done and you must pay. Those are either benchrest, pistol or 22 matches. They are now holding pistol shoots Saturday like 10-2 or something like that and regardless of membership you must pay. This doesn’t include the 10-15x a year someone “rents” the club for parties and shuts the entire club down. I’ve even been asked to leave because a member was having a dinner that wasn’t listed on the calendar. I told him no abs was told he’s on a committee and a life member leave or else. I did talk to the former president about that and was told oh well he rented the club his rules. That was a Saturday night around 530-6pm during the summer.

There are times the treasure reads the report and between CD’s and bank accounts we have $50-60k. The bylaws says the club gets the books audited at the end of the year but I call BS. When I say our equipment is trash I mean complete trash. All the mowers are hand me downs from members or purchased used. One the motor rocks when driving as if it’s going to fall off. One committee member fills the gas cans just enough to fill the 2 mowers and 1 weed eater. Says people can’t be trusted not to steal gas. Everything 50 yards to the target hanger is mud and water. They get free mulch from tree companies and throw it down and it just makes a huge mess. Benches are so wobbly I feel like they are gonna break when sitting on them.
 
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There are times the treasure reads the report and between CD’s and bank accounts we have $50-60k.

From the way you describe this place and the people that run it, I wouldn't be at all surprised if somebody was being inappropriate with funds. At our smaller club yearly membership is $30 and our club has a bit more $$$ than yours. Really doesn't mean anything, but it just wouldn't surprise me is all. I would definitely want to make sure somebody isn't being inappropriate with club money. Might be a good place to walk away from. At the very least sit in on meetings and insist on a thorough accounting of the financials, operating costs, financial records going back to 2012, etc... Bring your brother in law, you know, the one that's a lawyer ;).
 
i would start digging around when the comittee member "rented" the club, see if there is a paper trail, my bet is he didn't pay for the rental.

if it was me personally before I sent them any letters I would start examining the bylaws or whatever rental agreement you signed and see if there is anything in there about members auditing the books or an outside party. depending on how it is structured tax fillings could be public info.

wobbly benches should be treated as a safety concern, I wouldnt use a wobbly bench or table for shooting.

I do have a very little bit of experience with kind of the same situation, my old church had problems with people dipping into the cookie jar, we ended up hiring an account forensic auditor and they found out everything and the people went to jail. depending on what and how they go about managing the finances can get people in alot of hot water. is it operating as an actual business or is it structured as a non profit?

my local range is privately owned, we dont get to vote, no work is done by us, $35 a year, its small but has 500 meter range, and it is beautifully maintained like a park, every year the owner awards two scolarships to local high school students for college, it is really awesome to be a part of something like it is.
 
My father and uncles belong to a club .They have had many of the same stories .I am blessed to own a small farm property where i live and have a home range and can hunt when i want.
 
Let me know what you guys think? Sending to the president and VP tomorrow.

To whom this may concern,


I am an active club member and have been for about 10yrs. Over these years I have seen some changes come to the club that myself and other members I have spoken to feel are a concern. Such a concern that it has caused some to leave the club, some searching for another club and some who feel the financial burden of the club’s excessive costs to be a member. Each year I notice more and more members leave the club due to work hours. People simply cannot afford it nor is there enough hours to go around. Are you aware that other clubs in the area that range between $120-yr with no work hours to $180yr with no work hours? Both clubs offer way more shooting amenities than our club. I understand the need for work to be done at the club but IMO and my experience there is not much to be done except cutting the grass and replacing the target boards every half year. The reason I am writing today is to hopefully address some concerns myself and other members I have talked to have and find some common ground for everyone.


1) Work hours: A lot of us feel there is not enough work to go around for the entire membership and feel the cost of work hours is used to increase the cost of the yearly dues. $65yr is dirt cheap and such a club would warrant $120-yr or $150-yr. The cost of $65-yr dues plus $20-hr work hours comes to $305 plus $50 to be an NRA member. Now we are up to $350-yr. This is a lot of money for most people’s budget. When I joined and dues were $65 and work hours $15-hr and we had guys such as Tony Z and Tony G running building and lands there were multiple work parties a year. The range was shut down on a Saturday or Sunday morning and everyone came out and cleaned the entire grounds, replaced railroad ties, target hangers, repaired benches, etc. Now it seems like unless you’re a committee member or retired there are no hours to be had or its very, very hard to get them. Yes, we have grass cutting but after speaking with some members who have tried to mow in the mornings, they say it’s very hard because minimal equipment or the same crew, who get 40-50 work hours a year hog it all up. I have literally been sent home when I came to cut the grass because there were “too many people”. I have brought up in meetings about fixing benches, staining them, fixing gutters, etc. to gain work hours. and on several occasions, I have been told it would be brought up the next meeting or someone would contact me. A few days later I find the stuff repaired by someone on a committee or no one contacted anyone. I am not the only member this has happened to. It seems to be the norm for quite a few people. Quite simply, your work hours dues are too high and while 12hrs is not a lot of hours to contribute a year the cost is a lot to contribute when hours are taken by committee members or members who do the work during the week while everyone else is at work. If you want to make the club money than raise the dues instead of forced labor.

2) Range: Our range is pitiful. The pistol area is always a muddy mess, the benches are all wobbly and need stained, the horse mats need replaced on some of the bench tops. I have noticed on multiple occasions members bringing more than 2 guests and then you must sit and wait to shoot rifle while 4-5 guys shoot pistol and stand around BS. Last year we asked for a separate pistol range to be put in where the empty field is, and it was denied. Issues such as this should be approved by the board not 1/3 of the membership. Having a separate pistol range would be safer than shooting pistol and having people behind you messing with rifles while your “down range”. It would also be effective in time saving for members who say just want to shoot 50rds of pistol or sight in/check a rifle and not have to wait an hour for the next shooter to finish. It would also help pistol shoots to not have a mud pit to shoot in and the club could run pistol matches without interfering with the rest of the membership wanting to shoot rifle or pistol when a club match is going on.


3) Membership voting: We have 100-150 members, and it appears that the same 40 guys show to every meeting and either vote in what they want or vote out what they don’t want and the heck with the rest of the membership. It appears ½ if not more of the club is retired and can make every meeting to have their voice heard but a lot of us work, have kids, etc. and cannot make it to meetings. Letting the same 20-30 guys vote on issues without getting input from all 100-150 members is not how a club should be run. It appears to me and a few others that unless you’re a 20-30yr member your vote, opinion and ideas do not count for anything. Its time we get some fresh blood on these committees, board, etc. and stop letting the same groups decide what happens for everyone who is a paying member. I suggest that letters and emails are sent to all members and votes are created by all members and not the ones who show to the meetings. Last year our work hour dues were


4) Work Parties: As I stated above, the work parties seem to be far and few between. For those of us that can’t cut the grass during the morning there is grass cutting in the evening. Some of us work until 430-530pm and they start cutting grass at 3pm-330pm so what’s the point of showing up to get sent home. It also appears that unless you show up to a meeting you won’t know when work parties are done. This past meeting, I showed up and heard about the backstop being worked on. Well once again the work was done on a Tuesday, not enough notice for anyone and done early in the morning. I bet that took a lot of work hours away from guys willing to do it on a weekend or the evening. Same as with the concrete for the turkey shoots. We need help with the concrete and doing other work, but we are going to do it on a Wednesday at 10am while most the membership is at work. Get everyone together every 2-3 months on a weekend and fix stuff, paint stuff, clean stuff.


5) Meetings: We have a pandemic going on here and everyone is encouraged to attend the meetings that everyone is crammed in like sardines and not a single person is wearing a face covering. I have my health and the health of my family to be concerned about and do not feel comfortable attending the meetings with everyone crammed together. Since every monthly meeting is the equivalent of 6 work hours some work hours should be removed for those of us not willing to chance our health if you’re not willing to fix the issue of select members taking all the work hours.


6) Equipment: There appears to be a serious issue with select members shooting down new equipment for the club. Our mowers are 10+ years old. We have push mowers that the morning guys stick you with that look and perform like something out of Sanford and son junk yard. Any time a member suggests getting new equipment its always shot down by a select few. Majority of the membership should rule, not just a select few. Once again, things such as this should be left up to the board or the entire membership.


It just appears to me after Tony Z passed away the club is more concerned with money than ever before. No one can get hours in due a small group of committee members, and retirees taking up all the work hours. Once you hit 12hrs you should be done and work parties should be held once a month to get members involved, get work done instead of it being hogged by a select few. We went from having club shoots on Wednesday and Sunday at noon to 3 days a week now and on peek days like the weekends. All to raise money for the club that should be spent on stuff like mowers, archery targets, new benches and not passed out to committee members each year, and other nonsense. Use the 3-acre field in the back for a pistol range or skeet. This way it doesn’t need mowed, and we don’t have to wait for the Wednesday shoots to be over or have the range hogged up. Buy some new archery targets for us hunters. All the 3d targets are ruined because they are let sit outside and be rained on. Put gravel or concrete or even blacktop at the pistol range area so we don’t have to wade through mud and water to change targets or shoot. I’ve been a member for a long time and there are good people in the club but also some who are just out to hoard the club money and shoot everything down they don’t like. What’s a club or a membership if you allow the same 20 guys to have a say so. Seems like unless you’ve been a member for 20+ years your opinion doesn’t mean squat.


Sincerely,


Concerned Member.


They don't care. They don't have to. Your opinion doesn't mean squat. You seem to be speaking for several members. They may care a little if more signatures are on the letter.

I suspect their indifference would be explained by the financial report. A well run club will not hesitate to share financials with their members.
 
A well run club will not hesitate to share financials with their members.

At my club every member who attends the monthly meeting gets a copy of the treasurer's report listing all income and expenditures for the month along with current bank balances. I feel certain that even if I didn't attend the meeting that report would be emailed to me if I asked for it.

That's the way it should be. If roadblocks were erected to keep members from seeing club financials that would be a big red flag to me.
 
I don't understand all the concern over a club's financials . As a dues paying member do you own a share of the club ?
 
I don't understand all the concern over a club's financials . As a dues paying member do you own a share of the club ?
I dont own a share but when you ask for something as simple as a new archery, broadhead target and a few $50 archery target bags and its shot down it get irritating. When you ask why members are forced to cut grass with a push mower that the handle falls to the ground unless your holding it up and it gets shot down its irritating. When you ask for concrete to be poured or even gravel so we dont have to stand in the mud and its shot down its annoying. But, when a committee member, life member and several who have been there 20-30yrs ask for a concrete walkway to change turkey shoot targets because he doesnt want to get his $300 pair of hiking boots dirty, man they have a concrete truck there 2 days later. BTW thats not even a joke about the boots. I was told by a board member that several guys threw a fit they had to walk in mud and wet grass to change targets so they put concrete in. Or when your on a riding mower that has no blade guard over the chute, the motor wobbles as if its going to fall off the frame, baretly runs, and leaks fuel and they ask how much? $3K and everyone starts yelling Hell no, thats insane, use the push mower. But hey, we got a kurig with coffee and 10-15 guys show up each morning, run up the electric, burn up all the gas and wood for heat and drink all the coffee and we end up with a $150-200 electric bill and a $100 heat bill when the clubhouse should only be used for meetings once a month you start to wonder who is dipping in.
 
It sounds like you have already decided, but you're pissed that you have to. I would vote with my feet.
 
It sounds like you have already decided, but you're pissed that you have to. I would vote with my feet.
I’m 75% done and may just join the 1.5hr away one. It’s close and nice to check the deer rifle before a hunt. That’s about the only good thing about it.
 
I would leave also. Become one of the “public” who use the facilities.
 
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