When things go bump in the night...

[Rotorflyr]

never mentioned being driven by a concern for my possessions.

So then what is the driving need to leave a tacticaly sound location??

my family has been living in it for about 70 years, and nobody has any business being in it uninvited and with criminal intentions. that's reason enough for me to leave my room.

Yeah that's a great reason to "go a hunting".......

sure it's dangerous, and that's why i practice

Well I hope you never have to put your ninja skills to the test*.

as far as 'legal aspects' are concerned....i think any intruder in anybody's home should be put down, period, and i really don't care what any law has to say about it. if you think that's naive, or silly, or senseless

Well actually while I agree an intruder in my home should be considered a threat, not caring about what the law says is indeed silly, naive and senseless.

tell me what you would do if your state enacted legislation that, say, made it illegal to use force to defend your home until you phoned the police no matter what the circumstance was

Well now given that Im not single, it isn't all that difficult to be both calling the police AND being ready to shoot a direct threat to me or my family and of course given the nature of what I do for a living, if it bothered me that much, I could always move as I have no real ties to the state Im living in anyway

would you be fumbling for your cell phone instead of your handgun while somebody was entering your kids' room?

Absolutly not, again as Im not single it would be easy for my wife to call 911 as I was ready to shoot a direct threat to myself or family....besides (out of curosity) just how would the cops know to the second when you shot and when you called if the were a min apart?

some laws are notoriously stupid....disagree?

Nope, don't disagree with that at all, however the law is the law and should either a) be respected as such or b) one should fight to change it





*note: Im not saying one shouldn't be prepared to clear, nor never practice clearing a room/the entire home if need be, just don't think it needs to be done unless there is an immediate threat to an family member

 

[AStone]

Yeah that's a great reason to "go a hunting".......

Hunting?!

Did someone say, 'hunting'?

Squirrel? <dreams of squirrel stew. reaches for CZ 452>

Deer? <dreams of venison. reaches for {soon to come} 7mm08>

Human? <Only if I must. If one that I don't know, who has broken down my bed room door and comes into my sleeping space unannounced, the response is 00 from ...{see user name, add 'P' to last 3 digits}>

Nem

 

[sheep]

isabelle

G19 with 33 round magazine loaded (soon) with hydrashok +p's. Streamlight laser/illuminator - though I'll only use the illuminator, it's amazing how bright six watts can be when the BG's eyes are used to sneaking around in the dark.

I think im catching on!

 

[MedGrl]

Leaving the room should really only be concidered if you have kids or other family in other bedrooms. I would probably be living alone so I wouldn't leave my room and I'd grab my Remington 870 with #3 buck loaded and ready and call the nice men with blue and red flashing lights...The BG is welcome to my stuff it isn't worth me potentialy getting hurt over. And if he tries to come into my room he'll be in for a nasty surprise.

 

[bgold]

10 gauge BPS with #4 buck....do you need to ask why?

 

[armoredman]

CZ P01

 

[backlash]

Benelli Nova with 00 buck in the buttstock stays in the corner on my side of the bed, + 5 more shells on the nightstand. In the room right next door I have a XD9 with 4 mags loaded, two with 124 gr JHP's, the other two with range ammo.

If it was a BG my wife would be on the phone with the PD. If somebody were to break into my house though, they would go for the garage, all my cool stuff is in there, but my dog is also in there.
Pitt Bull/Akita mix

Unfortunately, I would have to leave the master bedroom, to retrieve another family member in the house down the hall, and if I'm out roaming the halls, I'm getting my dog too. I need to get tac lights for the shottie and XD.

 

[Troy26]

Thanks everybody. I was a littel slow getting back on the forumn (connection problems) and was really glad to see so many responses. Some had some really good ideas...like the solid core exterior door on the bedroom, and dropping the house keys outside the bedroom window for the cops. I'm wondering if any of you have any other good ones I should take into account when I get ready to build in teh next couple of years.

 

[Dr.Rob]

Get a mop, I'm bringing a shotgun.

Remington Sportsman 12 Magnum. None of that reduced recoil nonsense. Full power 2 & 3/4inch 00Buckshot @ maximum dram.

Backed up by a 9mm FEG Hi-power clone. With 115 gr slivertips. 15 of them.

 

[buck00]

Bad guy in house, I reach for the 1911.

I've always thought it would be fun to smear mud on myself like Schwartzenagger in "Predator" and creep out into the hallway with a spear to stalk the intruder silently.... but chances are, I would stay in my bedroom and call the cops.

 

[S&W620]

I'd break out the Smith 620 with 7 shots of .357 mag (125 gr. gold dot's) and my CZ 85 that stays cocked and locked with 16+1 rounds of gold dot 9mm as well as a 16 round reload that make their home in my headboard. If that isn't enough, then I suppose it's time to have a bit of fun with the knives and baseball bat

 

[M2 Carbine]

I can't really see the hiding in the corner while someone robs my house thing, and whatever is going to happen will be long over before a 911 call does any good.
I don't care about the TV but I'm going to "stop" the sucker just because he's in my house.
Since there's no one else in or around the house for me to worry about, anything that's taller than three foot is a target.

 

[AStone]

I don't care about the TV but I'm going to "stop" the sucker just because he's in my house.

Ah, a man of principle.

The TV is covered under my insurance policy.

My trial for shooting the "sucker" who tried to take it is not.

If that "sucker" comes after me, then I'll stop him with a 12, because my life is not covered by that same policy. That is, if I die, it may bring my TV back, but it won't bring me back.

The 12 makes it a moot point.

Nem

 

[GrammatonCleric]

When Things go bump in the night....

I reach for my G21 with 28 round magazine loaded with 230 grain JHPs. I also have two spare 13 round magazines loaded with 230 grain FMJs close at hand. Anybody intruding into my bedroom will be perforated in short order. They might also be disembowelled if necessary since I also keep a razor-sharp knife within arms reach.

 

[chaim]

If I know that someone broke in (per your scenario) and have time to grab whatever I want I will be camped out at the top of the stairs with a shotgun. The bedrooms are all upstairs so if anyone comes up there will be shooting (all the stuff they'd want is downstairs, if they come up where there are only people then I have reason to believe our safety is at risk). I won't wait in my room though. I live with my parents right now, my room is situated such that I'll be shooting towards the rest of the house, my parents' room and the guest rooms, if I have to shoot from my room. So, I'll be outside my room with a handgun backup and my shotgun. My Benelli Nova has 4 rounds of 00 buck in the mag, one in the chamber, 6 in a buttstock carrier, and 25 on an ammo belt. 12ga 00 buck will put down an intruder pretty quickly.

In the extremely unlikely scenario that there are more than a couple attackers, or they have body armor, I will try to get to my SKS with around 100 rounds on stripper clips at the ready.

Now, more likely, if there is an intruder I won't know for sure and will find out upon investigation. I can't call 911 and set up for an attack everytime I hear something go bump in the night. I have a cat and I can't assume the worse every time she gets into something and knocks something down in the living room. Also, even if I hear the door open, it could be my brother who doesn't live here but does have keys. So, since I live with my parents who know I own guns but don't like them I need to be discrete (don't want to play to their fears of gunowners thinking I act like Rambo at every noise). I investigate noises in the night with either my Taurus 85CH or Taurus PT140 Milennium Pro either IWB or in my pocket (or in my hand if I'm really nervous but ready to go into a pocket quick if it is my brother or parents). Sometimes it is my CZ 75B or one of my .357mags IWB. If my Ruger KP345 proves reliable it will probably become my nightstand gun, and thus the one that will come with me when a holster gun comes with me on my investigations.

 

[MR.G]

S&W 910S. 15 round magazine loaded with 124gr Federal HST.

 

[carlrodd]

I can't really see the hiding in the corner while someone robs my house thing, and whatever is going to happen will be long over before a 911 call does any good.
I don't care about the TV but I'm going to "stop" the sucker just because he's in my house.
Since there's no one else in or around the house for me to worry about, anything that's taller than three foot is a target.

ah, finally....someone after my own heart. i live with no one, no one i know would enter unannounced, and NOBODY defiles my sanctuary. i'd rather live with splitting legal hairs with the law, than live with the knowledge that i let someone stain the safety and comfort of my home.....i will never allow myself to be so violated. suggesting that a young man sit back and let people have their way with his home, seems akin to suggesting that a woman not fight back if someone is trying to rape her. for those that disagree....oh well. i suppose it's just good that you're not the sort of people that break into houses

 

[GroovedG19]

My G19(carry gun) transformed with Glock Tactical Light, 33rd. mag loaded with Winchester Ranger 147gr. SXT.

Squatting on the floor, behind bed.Make it through my bedroom door and you will be sent to hell before you hit the ground.

 

[5x5]

CZ SP-01, 19+1 124gr doubletap GD's, SurefireX200. I have to leave my bedroom, as my bedroom is at the end of a hall. My daughters would not only be unprotected, they'd be in the line of fire. My house really sucks from a tactical standpoint. Hopefully, that will be remedied this spring with a move. -Ian

 

[BevrFevr]

mossy w 00 buck. will be switching to #4 soon.

If I think there may be friendlys and I HAVE to do a sweep then a cz75b with a surefire.

 

[BevrFevr]

5x5

do you like your sp-01?

I am thinking about getting one. would you reccomend the tactical or the version with the safety?

 

[albanian]

If I knew it was only one BG, I would go with my Rem 870 HD. If it were a gang of bikers, my AK-47 would make me feel better because I could shoot 30rds before having to put another mag in. I could also shoot through walls if they are trying to hide from me.

 

[glockamolee]

762x39 with glock 10mm backup.

I would not leave the bedroom though.

 

[JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone]

There's a Ruger P-85 in my night stand. Black Tallons! Another mag full of Federal Hydrashocks. Wife has a Colt Cobra with Golden Sabres. Our bedroom is down the hall from the boys. I can secure the hall and tell the kids to stay put. I would not give up that position until the boys in blue arrived. But, if'n the perps are outside doing damage... They ought not want to let me get to the gun room.

-Steve

 

[Ruger451]

A Safe Design

As to the poster's secondary question, there are lots of ways to secure one's home, or to design it with safety in mind. As others have said, having all of the bedrooms apart from the main living spaces is a reasonable measure. Let the robber go through the kitchen and living room, but if he comes down that hallway or up those stairs, let him have it. Also, you can't beat solid core doors with heavy deadbolts.

You could also go with an honest to goodness security system. Any window or door is opened or broken and you will know it, and so will the cops. Just hole up behind the bed with your wife and kids behind you and your Remington 870 trained on the door.

If I had to leave the room to go after kids (which I don't have yet), I would probably take the 870 and maybe the P99 IWB, just to be safe.