tark
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Greetings Broomhandle Mauser lovers. I just finished off another tin of 7.62X25 ammo. Fired in my re-sprung Broomhandle Mauser. I have reached the 2,500 round plateau so I will ask again, when is this thing gonna blow up? I have heard such dire warnings of what will happen to your Mauser if you fire Tokarev ammo in it I was just wondering ....ahhhhh...exactly WHEN and HOW MANY rounds it is supposed to take??? Eh??
Of course I am being sarcastic. The truth is that when the Russians stole the Mauser round and renamed it they changed nothing, least of all the loading. When I mix 7.63 Mauser ammo and Tokarev ammo in the magazine there is no difference in muzzle blast, recoil or how far the pistol throws the empties.
I KNOW,That isn't much of a scientific comparison!!! OK fine. But consider this: When the Tokarev round first came out it had 1390 FPS with an 85 gr bullet out of a 4 1/2 " Tokarev barrel. The 7.63 Mauser was listed at 1410 out of the Mauser's 5 1/2 " barrel. Look at any old Cartridges of the World.
That doesn't look to me like the Tok is loaded any hotter, it looks like they were the same load and the difference was due to the one inch longer barrel on the Mauser.
The Mauser is a stronger design that the Tokarev anyway. The latter is a loose copy of a 1911, which was a fantastic place to start, but the Russians scaled it down to the point where they lost that inherent safety margin present in a 1911. I have three Tokarevs and in my experience they do not hold up well to extensive firing. My Russian Tok has a soft frame. The slide has beat and peened the frame so badly that it sticks and barely cycles. My Chinese gun has a soft slide at the rear of the spring tunnel and the same thing has happened to it. My Zastava has you to break, but I havent fired it that much.
My Broomhandle, on the other hand, has has God knows how many thousands of rounds put through it. ( 2500 Tokarev rounds that I know of for certain) And let us not forget that Broomhandles were chambered for a round that made the 38 Super look puny.. The 9X25 Mauser 128 gr @ 1360. The had no trouble handling that round. Broomhandles are complicated and intricate and expensive to make and on and on...but they are a very strong design.
And they can fire Tokarev ammo all day long without any trouble...
Of course I am being sarcastic. The truth is that when the Russians stole the Mauser round and renamed it they changed nothing, least of all the loading. When I mix 7.63 Mauser ammo and Tokarev ammo in the magazine there is no difference in muzzle blast, recoil or how far the pistol throws the empties.
I KNOW,That isn't much of a scientific comparison!!! OK fine. But consider this: When the Tokarev round first came out it had 1390 FPS with an 85 gr bullet out of a 4 1/2 " Tokarev barrel. The 7.63 Mauser was listed at 1410 out of the Mauser's 5 1/2 " barrel. Look at any old Cartridges of the World.
That doesn't look to me like the Tok is loaded any hotter, it looks like they were the same load and the difference was due to the one inch longer barrel on the Mauser.
The Mauser is a stronger design that the Tokarev anyway. The latter is a loose copy of a 1911, which was a fantastic place to start, but the Russians scaled it down to the point where they lost that inherent safety margin present in a 1911. I have three Tokarevs and in my experience they do not hold up well to extensive firing. My Russian Tok has a soft frame. The slide has beat and peened the frame so badly that it sticks and barely cycles. My Chinese gun has a soft slide at the rear of the spring tunnel and the same thing has happened to it. My Zastava has you to break, but I havent fired it that much.
My Broomhandle, on the other hand, has has God knows how many thousands of rounds put through it. ( 2500 Tokarev rounds that I know of for certain) And let us not forget that Broomhandles were chambered for a round that made the 38 Super look puny.. The 9X25 Mauser 128 gr @ 1360. The had no trouble handling that round. Broomhandles are complicated and intricate and expensive to make and on and on...but they are a very strong design.
And they can fire Tokarev ammo all day long without any trouble...