Where would you live

Where to go.

  • Denver, CO

    Votes: 35 19.2%

  • Reno, NV

    Votes: 39 21.4%

  • Las Vegas, NV

    Votes: 11 6.0%

  • Phoenix, AZ

    Votes: 27 14.8%

  • Tucson, AZ

    Votes: 36 19.8%

  • Salt Lake City, UT

    Votes: 34 18.7%
  • Total voters
    182
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Before complaining about the mormons in SLC, you might bother to find out how many of the populations of Las Vegas, Reno, Phoenix and Denver are mormon as compared to Salt Lake. (Less than 40%.)

Don't worry. Mormonism isn't contagious, I promise. :eek:

Anyone who thinks mormonism is repressive has obviously never lived in Kentucky.
 
RancidSumo, I was hoping upon hope that nobody would bring religion into the Utah equation, But since you DID bring it up, I'll say this;

As for the Mormons in Utah, I'm an atheist, and I get along great with the Mormons I work with. They know where I stand, I know where they stand, and I will fight for them to keep the right to choose their religion. All you have to do is tell them you are not interested, you are comfortable with your religious choice, and they are ok with it.

Now, let's stop the religious debate before this person's post gets locked because religion highjacked it.
 
What Job?

I don't know what your job requirements are, so let's assume it's something vaguely high tech.

Reno has high tech, and pretty much the whole surrounding area either has high tech or supports it.

I live in Carson City and commute to Reno.

Late Tahoe is 30 minutes from my door. There are a dozen ski resorts within 45 minutes.

Lots of open land.

Nevada is open carry and shall issue for CCW.

Good gun laws, with two exceptions:
  1. Clark County (Las Vegas) has a stupid little blue card and you have to register your pistol if you're going to have it with you for more than 24 hours in town;
  2. the Nevada CCW requires each pistol you intend to carry to be listed on the permit (and qualified separately).
We almost got that fixed, but one of the idiot legislators messed it up, so you can qualify with any revolver and carry any revolver, but your automatics have to be listed by make and model.

I could be persuaded to move to Idaho or Montana, but until a good high tech job invites me there, I'll be staying in the greater Reno area.
 
I picked Reno, Why?

Denver: not west enough.
Vegas: nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there.
Phoenix & Tucson, AZ: To hot unless you like 120 degrees in the summer.

Reno: Mountain air, Lake Tahoe, Great skiing in winter, lake fishing boating summer, Close to San Francisco, Wine Country, Hunting in the Sierra Nevada.
 
Las Vegas is the only place you DON'T want to live in NV. I hated it and finally we moved to Pahrump, about 70 miles away. If you like HOA's, liberals, horrendous traffic and handgun registration you'll like it there! :)

Today on the news was the beating and robbery of a 75 year-old woman in a wheelchair, and she died later. The news in Vegas is full of that stuff everyday.

Edit: Frankly I can't choose any of those options. I'd move to AZ but it'd be other than Phoenix or Tucson.
 
Colorado. Lately there has been the usual liberal push but that has been happening everywhere. I have been to all 50 states. Some of those states was a part of the fringe benefits of being in the Army. I was stationed in Colorado. I bought a 1903A3 there in '84 and still have it.
 
Before complaining about the mormons in SLC, you might bother to find out how many of the populations of Las Vegas, Reno, Phoenix and Denver are mormon as compared to Salt Lake. (Less than 40%.)
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As expected, there's the wacky SLC statistic to show how Utah isn't as bad as everyone thinks. One needs to keep in mind that SLC is only a small part of the metro area. If you want to expand it to SL county, the number climbs up to 56%, but even 40% completely overshadows the metro areas of Las Vegas (5%), Reno (3%), Phoenix (5%), and Denver (2%). While these are numbers from 2000, even if you quadrupled them they none of those metro areas would compare to any place in Utah. ()

Utah is good when it comes to gun laws, not so good on some other things. As stated before the housing market is just stupid here. If you have kids, the schools are overcrowded and underfunded. The climate is pretty extreme, going from rather cold to rather hot, sometimes in the same week. Last Thursday it the high was 53, this coming Friday is supposed to be 99. The mountains are nice though.

To hit your specific things:
Gun laws: Shall issue CCW, Full-auto, SBS, SBR, Suppressors all legal, no magazine restrictions, no preemption. Only places you can't carry are courts, airports, federal facilities and churches which post or notify BCI (so far, the only Church to notify BCI is the LDS Church).

Range access: Not as good as it used to be, only a couple of active ranges around SLC proper, but two shops are threatening to open ranges soon. However, you can drive 20-45 minutes from almost anywhere and find public land on which to shoot.

Open carry: Legal, can't be loaded out on the street without a permit, however. In Utah, loaded means only one action to fire.

Ammo prices: Not bad, we've got the Wal-Marts, a Cabelas, Sportsmans Warehouse and then a variety of smaller shops who have some good prices.

Cost of living (more for shooting): Lower than many places, but rapidly going up. There are cost of living calculators on the web that will let you compare.
 
I vote for RENO, 'cause I just moved here from the Sacramento area and I absolutely love it. For all the reasons mentioned already. Great town, real close to a lot of good stuff, nice people, great gun laws.

and Vegas IS the only place in Nevada NOT to live in...

SLC is weird, can't buy normal beer there... Lame.
 
I grew up in Las Vegas and now live and go to school in Salt Lake City. I am staying here for law school also, although it would not be too difficult for me to get into any number of better schools. Why? To quote a famous Utahn, "This is the place." It is GORGEOUS (mountains on all sides, unbelievable hiking, skiing, biking, etc), relatively temperate as compared to certain other places (summer highs generally average a bone dry 90-95, winters run right around freezing with lows in the teens and only a handful of really bad snow storms every year), and there is no such thing as an actual "bad neighborhood" in this valley. There are neighborhoods that are worse than others, but there is nothing that even remotely approaches the level of something like North Las Vegas or the south side of Chicago. Also, it's relatively inexpensive to live here, which is nice for an individual in my position. In terms of gun-related issues, you would seriously be hard pressed to find a gun-friendlier metropolitan area than the Salt Lake Valley.

Okay, you've heard the good. Now here's the bad. First, the job market is super picked over, so if you do decide to come out here, make certain that you have something lined up in advance. If you have that squared away, move forward. Second, Utah as a whole is culturally...."different". I say that because it weirded me out when I moved up here and found that it was seriously white folks as far as the eye can see. Not that it's bad, per se, but it was just something I wasn't expecting. Also, there's a whole lot of people here who hold the same opinions about a wide variety of issues, which I think is true to a certain extent everywhere; there's the lockstep leftist and rightist crowds, and public discourse here is a joke, as evidenced by the recent fiasco of our illustrious mayor Rocky Anderson debating the equally august Sean Hannity which degraded into little more than a broadcast and publicized name calling contest. My point is that a little moderation could really go a long way in terms of the political climate here. At any rate, brace yourself for that if you're accustomed to something else. By and large, though, people leave other people alone out here, and that's just the way I like it.
 
I only voted for Denver because I grew up in the Denver area and all of my family is in Colorado. Denver has grown to become LA East. All the da** Kalifornians have gotten fed up with where they live and moved to Colorado. Now the fools want to change Colorado to what they left behind. Gripes my behind. they have caused the cost of living to sky rocket and housing is so high it is hard to afford a decent place to live. Getting started there is expensive. I think I would go to Salt Lake if I were you. Salt Lake is like Denver was 25 years ago. Also very gun friendly.
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Now you know how we Floridians have felt for years about all the "Noo Yawkers" moving down here.

You hear things like, "..you can't get good (chinese/pizza/bagels) down here!"

And this comes from a someone transplanted from new Jersey! When I moved here, I assimilated. I like NASCAR, eat grits, and say Y'all. Luckily I never had that thick "Joisey" accent.

I want to make a bumper sticker that says "If you (Heart) NY so much, I-95 runs north too!"
 
...

The moons of Jupiter?

(I've been reading too much space opera lately... can you tell? ^_^)
 
Colorado or Utah... with the way the climate is changing, before long the other options will be hurting for water during the summer months (even worse than they are now). I would go where people are moving to, not from, because at least your real estate will have some value. People may still be moving to the southwest, but that trend will change, I predict dramatically and possibly permanently.
 
I voted for Denver CO

Denver Colorado is okay. I lived here for little more than 10 years. I would also recommand suburb.
 
I really wish that people could/would talk about Utah and Salt Lake without having to bring their prejudices against the religion into the conversation. That is just wrong. :fire: I won't go any further than that because this is THE HIGH ROAD!

Utah is my native state, in case you are wondering. I have been all over the U.S. and I prefer it here probably because I grew up here. As alluded to in a previous post, the climate around here is...ah...er...changing, both weather-wise and political-wise. If you don't like either one, just wait a minute because it will get better or worse depending on what you want.

As to the weather, here you can ski in the morning and golf in the afternoon practically all year round. As to the political atmosphere, it is just plain interesting. The morning paper can be a comic or a bad dream depending on several things. Then, again, variety is the spice of life.

Talk to Correia, one of the Mods on this board. He is the chief financial officer of FBMG, a firearms dealer and he can direct you to any number of places within a short drive of Salt Lake where you can shoot with only rattlesnakes and jackrabbits as witnesses. No range fees! Just don't start any wild fires.
 
Outer Banks of North Carolina!!! Shorts, a T-shirt, and flip-flops are all you need for about 10 months out of the year, although in winter you might want a jacket. Fishing here is fabulous, and the hunting is great, too. Come for a visit and you'll want to stay.

If you do visit, bring plenty of guns and ammo! We have a great gun club that welcomes visitors and only charges $5/day. Oh, and The Outer Banks Gun Club is also full-auto-friendly.

If you are one of that strange bunch that plays flog, bring your flog sticks, as we have at least a dozen flog courses around here.
 
You can't beat Phoenix for gun laws or the economy.

Open carry is legal and CCW is legal with permit.
Only Alaska and Vermont have better gun laws.
 
Eyesac I applied for a transfer to Reno today if I get the job I will be taking you up on that beer. Still looking at other possible places just kinda seeing where I can get a decent salary right now
 
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