Which 9mm for only +P or +P+ ammunition?

[MCgunner]

If I was lookin' at .357 Sig, I'd just buy a .40. Similar energy levels with heavier bullets.

Your practice ammo will be at the same power level as your carry ammo, for the most part, and all of it will be cheaper than +P+ 9mm.

Not in my case. My carry +P stuff costs me about $5 a box if I load Winchester bullets, maybe 8 dollars with my favorite Hornady 115 grain XTPs.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

KAHR MADE TO ORDER FOR +P+ 9MM

"Like steel-framed Kahr 9x19 mm pistols, the P9 is rated for +P and +P+ ammunition. Trigger pull on our sample was excellent, having about 3/8" of effortless take-up, followed by a smooth, steady pull of 6 3/4 lbs. over a distance of about 1/2". On the last shot, the slide stop locks the slide open.
Recoil, while manageable, was particularly sharp, especially with +P ammunition. Accuracy, as can be seen in the accompany table, was quite good for a pistol of this size. Function firing was with a variety of Federal, PMC and Winchester ammunition. Following Kahr Arm's recommended 200-round break-in period, we experienced no malfunctions of any kind."

 

[beaucoup ammo]

More On KAHR P9 From THR Archives

"I realize that the original post was about +P & +P+ ammo in 9mm pistols in general, but the specific pistol in question is the Kahr P-9.

The original Kahr K-9 was specifically built for +P ammunition. Unless I'm sorely mistaken, the P-9 is as well. **Note: It IS.**

One of the advantages of a polymer framed pistol (I know-heresy!!) is its ability to imperceptibility flex during recoil, allowing the use of intense loads, and/or making recoil seem "softer".

Kahr pistols were designed from the ground up to be CCW pistols, carried with the most potent ammunition available, and when they came into existence (speaking specifically to the 9mm here) +P ammo was it. Keep in mind that 9mm standard pressure is 35,000 cup, which is the same for .357 magnum.

If you have any doubts about +P or +P+ ammo in the P-9, I'd suggest a quick call to Kahr and ask them-who better to tell you if the pistol is so rated than the manufacturer?"

My KAHR P9 has breezed through 100's of rounds of +P+ and just begs for more!

Note: Check the Archives here at THR for most any question. It's like "The Bible" for fire arms!

 

[RON in PA]

One thing to consider is the life expectency of your gun. As you go from standard pressure through +P to +P+ you reduce the total number of rounds your gun will shoot. Most major manufacturers say in their manuals that shooting +P is OK but advise against +P+ because there is no standard for that ammo.

 

[New_geezer]

Ruger P89 - It may not be sexy but it is solid as can be and a relative bargain to boot.

 

[iShootStraight]

Two questions: Why do you NEED +p+??
What is this gun used for?

 

[steveracer]

I love HiPowers and CZs, but...

If I were going to run ONLY +p and +p+, I would go with 5906. The VA Beach PD had these and ran Ranger +p+ for years and years before somebody MADE them get Glocks. Their Smiths went into one of the buyback programs, and I got to handle a dozen or so. These guns were shot extensively with really hot ammo, tens of thosands of roudns, and they all looked new internally. Get one, and feel confident that it will do the job. Plus, Smith will fix it for free for life.
I prefer other pistols for carry, as I don't like the slide mounted safety, but you may not care.
Steve.

PS: these are going for $300 in Excellent condition.

 

[MAGNUMMAN]

RUGER P89!!!

 

[JohnKSa]

Ruger or Glock

 

[XLMiguel]

I've put some +P thru my Kahr P-9. No problem with the pistol, but it ain't fun or easy on your hand/wrist in such a lightweight gun. FWIW

 

[Shipwreck]

I would say the HK USP - Hell, not too long ago, people were shooting 45 super thru their stock USP 45s. So, the 9mm version can handle the +p+ I would be safe to say.

 

[otomik]

9mm +P+ versus .357SIG
That's an interesting question, Fiocchi 158gr subsonic, Winchester +P+ 127gr. Ranger T's and 115gr. Gold Dot Double Tap screamers and the like really show the versatility of 9mm as a well developed international standard.

 

[Longbow]

Ruger P series or Glock 17.