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Which one you do NOT want?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Feb 13, 2013.

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Vote one OUT!

Poll closed Feb 27, 2013.
  1. Dan Wesson VBob

    76 vote(s)
    15.9%
  2. H&K P30

    44 vote(s)
    9.2%
  3. Sig Sauer 226 Elite

    23 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. Glock 19

    139 vote(s)
    29.1%
  5. Beretta 92FS

    97 vote(s)
    20.3%
  6. Walther P99

    98 vote(s)
    20.5%
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  1. el Godfather

    el Godfather Member

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    Dear THR:
    If you could have five of the six pistols listed, which one would you vote out? Please share your reasons.

    For me, I have very hard time deciding. Each of the ones listed offer distinct advantages.

    Thank you
     
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  2. mmitch

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    I would not take number 3.

    I hate the number 3.

    Mike
     
  3. orionengnr

    orionengnr Member

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    If I had numbers 1 and 4, I would easily live without the remainder.
     
  4. g_one

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    Agreed.
    If someone gave me a P30, a P99, a 92, and a 226 elite I would be tickled pink - so that I could trade them in for a VBOB.
     
  5. pacerdude

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    I voted against the P99 as I feel the Glock would be almost as easy to conceal and I wouldn't want to lose the Dan Wesson,Sig, H&K or Beretta.
     
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  6. Spammy_H

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    I've not been impressed by Beretta's longevity. Everything else on the list seems to hold up better.

    1st choice - VBOB - I want one so bad.
    2nd - HK - of all the non-1911s out there that's the one I'd like to have.
     
  7. tarosean

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    No interest in the VBOB. No other reason than I dislike the 1911 bob'd feel in my hands.
     
  8. g_one

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    I do agree somewhat, bobbed 1911's take some getting used to especially if you are a long-time owner of a standard 1911; for me though, it's all about the quality of Dan Wesson. Give me a DW over a Kimber, Colt, or any other production 1911 any day.
     
  9. JTQ

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    No "bob's" for me either. The top three things that look wrong on a 1911, in my opinion, bobtail, light rail (I guess I'm warming up to this a little), finger groove grips (go back to your Glock).

    While I'd like to own a SIG P226, I'm not a fan of the Elite series. Why do you need a beavertail on a SIP P-Series? Are they known for hammer bite? No, I suspect.
     
  10. ColtPythonElite

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    I will pass on them all.
     
  11. guyfromohio

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    The Walther would mean nothing to me.
     
  12. Bovice

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    I want everything large. Everything.
     
  13. Corpral_Agarn

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    I don't really have a need for a Glock 19.
    Nothing wrong with them, of course, they just don't send me anywhere and I have other guns that cover the same niche that I really enjoy shooting.
    ... that and if I changed my mind I could just go get one... from like anywhere... :D

    The Elite would be my first to keep followed closely by the VBob.
     
  14. returningfire

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    No H&K

    Think about Factory Service
     
  15. RBid

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    I don't care for Berettas. I respect them. I like how they look. I like the grip. Somehow, despite all of that, I have no desire to own one.

    The rest of that list is full of winners.
     
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    92fs, the DA trigger is terrible.
     
  17. el Godfather

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    So far Elite seems to be the most popular pistol. I can see why.
     
  18. bannockburn

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    I voted for the Beretta Model 92 as I really don't care for DA/SA semi-autos with slide mounted safeties. The other thing is that Model 92 doesn't fit my hand very well and the guns overall ergos don't work for me.
     
  19. OregonJohnny

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    a $5.99 Beretta "D" spring, plus about 3 minutes of your time, without any special tools, makes the Beretta 92 double action trigger at least 100% better. I don't know of any other modification this simple that can make such a dramatic difference in trigger feel.

    There always seems to be a lot of hate on THR for the Beretta 92. I find it funny when so many people say the Beretta is too big for their hands, and too large for the round it fires, then sing the praises for the Glock 17.

    The only common complaint I agree with is the slide-mounted decocker/safety. But with regular practice, handling the Beretta becomes second nature. It just takes a lot of getting used to for people who have shot 1911s or striker-fired guns exclusively.
     
  20. snakeman

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    the glock, because glocks just don't fit my hand well
     
  21. OldBrownDog

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    The Beretta. I just don't care for how it fits my hand. I don't care for the Glock either, but I wouldn't feel bad beating one up, if I owned one. The Walther would be my next least favorite.
     
  22. Fishbed77

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    Hard to pick. All are great pistols. Maybe if we knew an intended use, it would be easier to narrow down. For example, for carry, my top choice of these would be the Walther P99AS (great ergonomics, incredible reliability, and brillant DA/SA trigger design), and bottom choice would be the Beretta (a little too big).
     
  23. CB900F

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    Fella's;

    I was amazed by the above negative comment about the H&K factory service: "Think about Factory Service". I don't have to "think" about it, I've got actual experience. It was fast, exactly what I wanted, and done at a good price too. What's not to like? I had the operating lever on my USPc replaced with the ambidextrous one. No problems since then with the work either, and it's been awhile.

    As for what I voted off, that was the Glock. They don't work for me, though apparantly they do for other people.

    900F
     
  24. returningfire

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    Don't have a negative comment on H&K service, just not a positive one either. Maybe they have gotten better.
     
  25. el Godfather

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    I ended up voting out Beretta 92, but as soon as i submitted the vote, I remain more unsure about the options.

    Here are my reasons for keeping each:

    Vbob: I like commander size 1911. In .45, I think 1911 remains arguably the best platform. DanWesson offers excellent tight tolerance pistol in 1600$. Looks are great as well. Some people think looks dont matter, but to me they do if its something you are going to carry and appreciate. Most attractive feature: Craftsmanship.

    H&K P30: I have not seen more ergonomic pistol than P30. Reliability is excellent, capacity is sufficient, accuracy is decent (although I have some doubts in this department). Most attractive feature: Ergonomics.

    Elite 226: Well Sig Sauer is Sig Sauer, but 226 Elite is just a cut above. Great grip angle with slimmer profile, dead on reliability, beavertail, tactical night sights and SRT. Most attractive feature: SRT.

    Glock 19: Some people argue its the best utility 9mm made to this date. Size is ideal for a compact pistol, and super reliability, which speaks volumes. Such reliability is comforting factor when taking in to a hostile territory. Tons of after market accessories. You turn your in to competition pistol, carbine, smg, whatever you want. Most attractive feature: Reliability.

    Beretta 92FS: the INOX is probably the most stylish while no compromise on reliability. Cheap magazines. Some people think slide mounted safety isn't great, but in 92F I dont mind as oppose to the likes of makarovs. Most attractive feature: stylish looks.

    Walther99: excellent erginomics, stf yet decocker, one of my top choice for .40 (Bond handgun), balanced pricing where you get more bang for the buck. Most attractive feature: for me is its appeal in .40SW.

    Now all that said, I am not sure if my voting out beretta was the right decision. I thought hard about Beretta, Glock and to a lesser extent Walther. I was pretty confident about p30, elite and to a lesser extent vbob.

    Thus, may be Glock should have gone as its utility is pretty much replicated by other options. One thing that went in favor of the Glock is the sentimental value since I carried Glock through thick and thin, rain and shine, when it really mattered back then. At the moment Glock was my to go gun so there is that attachment to this innate piece of plastic :).
     
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