Maybe the thread should have be titled; "Best inexpensive gun". As many have cited, the CZ-82 is probably the BEST of the BEST when it comes to bang for your buck. The PA-63, P64, AP-MBP, and some other military surplus guns are also guns that obviously have some of the best quality, and can be bought for a very low price. The Hi-Point falls into the inexpensive quality gun category also. There are definitely a lot of Junk guns out there that are "CHEAP". Cheap is different than inexpensive. Some of those guns are down right dangerous. And you can tell simply by reading forums. Forums are made up of usually 3 types of posters. 1)Hobbyists who really like guns. They are actually not the majority of posters. 2)Those researching and looking for their next gun purchase. and 3)Those with issues or problems and are looking for answers. And it's the 3rd group that I concentrate on when looking at a particular gun that I might purchase. How many posts do you see with people having problems? How many posts show the same problems. Isolated posts with a problem don't really count, because all guns: from glock, to sig, to S&W, to HK, to anything has their lemons. But if you actually looked for the "Problem Posts", I think some would be surprised at what guns aren't on the list.