Who shoots from a rest and who shoots from a free standing position?

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but when you really need it you aren't going to be resting on a sand bag

That's my take on it. There are a few reasons to shoot off the bench, as given above (older shooters, newer shooters, new gun, new handloads, etc.) but, short of those, I am not sure what skills shooting off the bench teaches the handgunner. Most handgun competitions I'm aware don't allow benches, and I wouldn't want to be near a CCW-er who only practiced from a rest.
 
Why does it have to teach anything? It's not like I only have one box of ammo and have to save it to practice offhand shooting. <shrug>

What I really miss is having a place to safely shoot aerial targets with rifles and handguns. Sort of leads to a question about the usefullness of shooting stationary targets. That ol' bad guy might not just be standing still like that target. :)

"As for rifles, there's no point in stressing yourself trying to get moa groups at 100 yards offhand"

I was raised on rifles. Use a support when you can and practice offhand shooting until those 1 moa groups are doable. It's all about repeatability of sight alignment, hold, breath and trigger pull. Don't go chasing shots. Be consistent.

John
 
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I shoot at the range- rest position, because I am required to.
at the friend's place- standing or prone (for the 200yarders)
Rest makes bad habits. I only use it to sight in my rifles.

I used to shoot at a range that had that kind of requirement for pistols. I hated it. How is it in any way practical to bench rest your pistol? Honestly, other than the reasons some folks have already posted (testing ammo, setting sights, etc), I really don't like bench resting a pistol.

I train like I fight. If I have a deadly force encounter, I won't likely be in any position where I can bench rest my pistol before defending myself... So, I don't see the point in training that way!
 
Why does it have to teach anything? It's not like I only have one box of ammo and have to save it to practice offhand shooting.

Because to some of us target shooting is a skill to master or a fun way to blast things. If you're parked at the bench squinting through your sights you are neither mastering a skill nor having much fun.
 
Standing up, sitting down, one or both knees, laying down, standing still, while walking...
 
i shoot prone, supine, on my sides, standing, kneeling "monica" style and ever which way in between moving etc. the only time i shoot for the bench is when i am trying to see what a certain pistol is capable of. other than that i do drills, and practical type exercises to determine how the gun will perform.
 
I don't shoot from a rest but a few of the guys I shoot w/ do...I kid them all the time that one time they need to use a firearm in self defense they'd be spending 1/2 their time setting up their rest :rolleyes:
But really, AFAIC, it's about having a good time w/ your toys :D
 
There's no other way to test the accuracy of a load/handgun than rested shots and the standard is 25 yards. If you don't test your loads for accuracy, you won't know where the gun shoots with them or how well. In addition, when I work up a load, I'll set the chronograph up, shoot over the screens from the rest and at a 25 yard target for velocity and accuracy verification. Saves time and effort. I have to test any handload I'm working up and shooting off hand tells me absolutely NOTHING about the gun. I know I can shoot off hand, been doing it for 40 years. That's not a problem. What the gun does is the variable and I have to take all shooter error our of the equation to quantify that.

It burns me up when someone does a semi serious test of a handgun and doesn't either shoot it off a rest or from a ransom rest for accuracy results. I even want to know how POCKET PISTOLS shoot intrinsically. I don't give a nit if it's not a target gun, I wanna know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, I've shot all my guns, from snubs to cannons off the bench for groups and all the loads I've worked up for them and all the bullets I've cast for them in the molds I've bought for them and even sometimes with different alloys of lead in the bullets. I wanna get just at least a little bit scientific in the testing.

I ALWAYS shoot from a rest in the field at game if I have the option. NEVER EVER shoot off hand when you can get to a rest. You owe the game a well placed shot. If you cannot take game cleanly, then don't hunt. Just that simple. My grandfather taught me ALWAYS to use a rest when I could in the field with a rifle and it is triple important with a handgun. I frankly don't know anyone that can take a deer at 150 yards off hand with a handgun. Now, using a rest, I've done it. My contender shoots 5 shot 3" groups at 200 yards dead on and is only 3" high at 100.

Okay, there are many more reasons to shoot handguns than self defense. I guess you understand that self defense is important to me, but I actually get to kill things with my Contender and my Blackhawks, so yeah, I take rested shots in the field, let alone at the range and if I get that choice in a shoot out, I'm going to be resting over cover or barricade or something and not standing out on main street at high noon shooting from the hip. That ain't smart. Yeah, I practice off hand, el presidente timed, that sort of thing. I also practice shooting from cover and prone and using a barricade. I shoot from my body point shooting close range. I shoot moving both directions, in and out from the target. I do reloads behind barricades, all sorts of stuff I dream up that's fun and good practice. I also plink at plates and pepper poppers. I don't really have a routine. IDPA is a fun way to practice. I did that for a while.

Oh, I left out creedmore. I used to shoot a LOT from creedmore when I was shooting IHMSA. I also shoot the contender off shooting stix a lot simulating field shooting at game at 100 and 200 yards. If you hunt with a handgun, much as with a bow, you NEED to practice.

BTW, how do you regulate sights and find a load that shoots to POA if you don't shoot from a rest? You HAVE to use a rest to do that are, pardon the pun, you're shootin' in the dark.
 
BTW, how do you regulate sights and find a load that shoots to POA if you don't shoot from a rest? You HAVE to use a rest to do that are, pardon the pun, you're shootin' in the dark.

All of my pieces are sighted-in from the standing off-hand. I adjust the sights according to the group, like you would from a bench, only mine are regulated for and by practical use.
 
"If you're parked at the bench squinting through your sights you are neither mastering a skill nor having much fun."

That has to be one of the most pompous, blathering, foolish, thoughtless and downright silly comments I've ever seen.


I'm not having fun? Dang. I never knew. Somebody has a narrowminded view of shooting and it's not me.

John
 
That has to be one of the most pompous, blathering, foolish, thoughtless and downright silly comments I've ever seen.

I'm not having fun? Dang. I never knew. Somebody has a narrowminded view of shooting and it's not me.

Settle down, John. Take a few deep breaths. I am not sure why this subject has touched such a nerve with you. If you can't respond to my argument without insult, than maybe it's best not to respond at all.
 
I go to the range with my step dad a lot, who is in pretty good shape and not feeble, but he is 70. We shoot our pistols from a rest to test accuracy of a load or to zero in sights, etc. Just like most have already said.

But I get on him all the time because he's happy with his accuracy from a rest. He has some black powder revolvers that he shoots for fun, but he has 2 pistols that are for self defense/home defense and I keep telling him that if he is going to practice his SD shooting, he needs to do it from an un-supported stance. Either two hand, one hand, you get the point. He can't hit his targets consistantly from a standing position and I think he needs more practice at un-supported shooting to get better. I like to shoot one handed gun fighter style, especially with my SAA.

When shooting for fun, I say shoot anyway you like. No one can tell you how to have fun with your hobby. But SD practice or getting familiar with your SD weapon it takes a variety of shooting postures. I think one should be familiar with their SD firearm from several positions - especially uncomfortable positions and awkward positions (shooting left handed for me is kind of awkward) as this will most likely be the case should you ever have to use it, God forbid. IMHO
 
Never use a rest. Doesn't mean I never will. I could care less how my gun shoots at 25 yards while resting on something. That being said, if that's what makes you happy, I'm not going to complain about you doing it.
 
So basically people use the rest to troubleshoot, sight in, and if they are not capable of holding a pistol at arms length for any reason.


Heres a question....sure its great to sight it in from a rest, but wouldnt the sights line up differently when using it from a standing position? Even if its a minute difference, wouldnt you rather it be more accurate when it really counts? Im not trying to incite a riot or anything with this post, just a newish gunowner looking for answers
 
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