Why all the Glock hate?

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This is still alive???? Just a few thoughts:

"I also laugh as those who like to claim the Glock is an inferior pistol because you can't shoot lead bullets out of them. Well I shoot lead bullets out of all my full sized Glocks. You buy a drop in aftermarket barrel and blaze away creating all the lead fumes you want."

Glock doesn't want you shooting lead bullet because of the polygon rifling. Polygon rifling is cheaper to cut and very accurate with jacketed bullets. All the folks who produce pistols with this type of rifling don't want you running soft lead bullet through them because lead tends to get sticky in them. You might find really hard cast bullets which will be okay but as a general rule they don't want you over pressuring your gun and causing problems due to softer cast bullets. I also don't think anyone makes a bbl that is "drop in". Anyone putting in a after market bbl should have it checked out by somone that is qualified and CERTIFIED.

Why all the Glock Hate?

Because they are either the cheapest, crappiest, non-metal framed pieces of shooting garbarge ever made or it is because they are a Divine Gift from The Lord to Mr. Glock. I tend to think they fall somewhere in between with the rest of the pack.....
 
If any idiot shoots himself with a Glock in the foot, legs or nuts he deserves what he gets. As for the Kaboom its greatly overstated and its more of a 40sw problem than a Glock problem. I have seen KB's in Sigs and know of them happenening with Beretta 96's Hk's and countless other 40's.

Keep your finger off the trigger and you will not shoot yourself.
:banghead:
Pat
 
Evil5Liter..

In one of your posts you said..

"Glock=No Safety=Bad ... Revolver=No Safety=Good"

First off, you're talking about two different animals.

Revolvers, for the most part, have a hammer.. and in most cases are NOT carried in the cocked position. This, in and by itself, precludes having to have a "safety". In over 40 plus years of being around firearms, I have only observed a revolver being carried once with the hammer being cocked.. and then it was in a holster that had a "safety" strap running between the hammer and the firing pin.

On the other hand, a Glock has a spring loaded firing pin that is in the cocked position and a live round in the chamber, which would compare it to carrying a revolver with the hammer cocked.. and having NO "safety" strap.

So from my perspective what you said is true.. "Glock=No Safety=Bad ... Revolver=No Safety=Good". Don't you agree?

FireStar_M40
 
On the other hand, a Glock has a spring loaded firing pin that is in the cocked position and a live round in the chamber, which would compare it to carrying a revolver with the hammer cocked.. and having NO "safety" strap.
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Nope, not quite.

When a Glock pistol has a round in the chamber, the striker is partly cocked. It is under some spring tension, but not enough to ignite a primer. The trigger has to be pulled fully to the rear, which moves the striker the rest of the way back, then releases it.

- Chris
 
FireStar M40, your argument only holds up for single-action revolvers. Double-action revolvers are even more susceptible to accidental discharges than are Glocks, at least as long as some fool isn't running around with his or her finger on the trigger, because revolvers lack the trigger safety found on a Glock. Yes, if you're waving your gun around with your finger on the trigger like John Travolta in "Pulp Fiction," a Glock is more likely to discharge than a stock double-action revolver because the Glock trigger pull is lighter than most stock double-action revolvers (though I've shot some revolvers with custom hammer springs that have hair triggers), but that is an issue of unsafe gun handling, not gun design.
 
Simple: to fire the Glock trigger you have to press both the trigger and that center bar, the one that hurts your finger. You can't fire a Glock by brushing up against something accidentally pressing the edge of the trigger. You can accidentally fire a double-action revolver that way. I know this is a highly unlikely scenario with either weapon, but it's less likely with a Glock safety trigger than any traditional double-action trigger. I wrote this in response to FireStar M40's post:

Revolvers, for the most part, have a hammer.. and in most cases are NOT carried in the cocked position. This, in and by itself, precludes having to have a "safety". In over 40 plus years of being around firearms, I have only observed a revolver being carried once with the hammer being cocked.. and then it was in a holster that had a "safety" strap running between the hammer and the firing pin.

On the other hand, a Glock has a spring loaded firing pin that is in the cocked position and a live round in the chamber, which would compare it to carrying a revolver with the hammer cocked.. and having NO "safety" strap.
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My main point was not that revolvers are more dangerous than Glocks (although they are if you buy into FireStar M40s logic), but that the key is safe gun handling practices--don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
 
Well if you're mentally challenged and can't understand the basic safety rules then do not buy a Glock or any other striker fired weapon with no external safety.

People and their stupid excuses.
 
It seems to me that someone with 40 plus years of firearms experience would know the Glock is not a single action.
 
WEPS wrote:

Well if you're mentally challenged and can't understand the basic safety rules then do not buy a Glock or any other striker fired weapon with no external safety.
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Good advice. I'd probably add that if you are too mentally challenged to understand basic safety rules you should also probably refrain from buying double-action revolvers, single-action pistols, single-action revolvers, pump-action shotguns, bolt-action rifles, lever-action rifles, single-shot rimfire rifles, pellet guns, sharp objects, baseball bats, volatile chemicals, cigarette lighters... the list goes on and on.
 
I've owned a bunch of Glocks. I later found that I shot other designs better. As a result, I got rid of the Glocks. Just a pragmatic decision for me.

They usually work, though their "perfect" reliability is an exaggeration. Kind of like the "1911s are unreliable" tripe. :rolleyes:
 
Glocks, like some people, are half-cocked. They're not cocked until the trigger's pulled.
 
Rockstar, I agree that about half of them are half cocked but I also think that about ninety percent of them are half baked.

Krag, it's just the semantics. I wish they wouldn't sell stuff like bbls with labels like "drop in" regardless of the brand of pistol. The thing that really gets under my skin is "high capacity magazines". The ban is dead so now the ones that you can stick more ctgs in are "standard capacity magazines". The annoying ten round magazines are now "restricted" magazines.

Ooops, it is a Glock thread and I didn't mention Glock. There I just did twice. Sorry I went off on a tangent. I have to get back to my baking now and join the ninety percenters again....
 
I dumped my 23 because it lacked class,....soul.

As a sevice type wepon, I think it's great. I just want to carry something with more style than a S&W model 10.
 
Here you go...............

If you want to run with the big dogs, carry a GLOCK. If you carry anything else you might as well stay on the porch with the old dogs :neener:
 
Well, I have a sense of humor, but Glocker, you merely parrot what is so oft spoken not in jest.

Lobo, you're wrong about Glocks being safer. DA revolvers have heavier (albeit smoother) and longer trigger pulls. It is far more likely that something pulls directly on a trigger (and thus negating the Glock safety, and is, by the way, the chief cause of Glock ND's out there) than grazing its side. Your claim is theoretical but not based in fact. A revolver can be safely carried in a pocket. A Glock cannot by any means be safely carried that way. The holster, with trigger covered, is part of the safety.

You see, such unsupportable claims, wildly made, give Glockomaniacs such a poor rep. It also causes a bleed-over effect against the handgun itself. Disdain for Glocks is far more a product of worshipers at the altar of Glock than of Glock pistols themselves.

Ash
 
Ash,

And your claim that the it is far more likely that something will pull directly on the trigger rather than grazing its side is supported by...? If you want to disdain someone for making unsupported claims, you might want to look in the mirror.
 
By the sheer volume of ND's revolver versus automatic.

Or, to put it another way, what fool would carry a Glock in his pocket? That method of carry was perfectly safe with revovlers since the 1880's when revolvers began to be offered in double action. For that matter, any DAO auto, such as CZ or Beretta, are safer than Glocks due to their heavier trigger pull. They exist because they replicate the pull on a revolver. Glocks do not. Glock, specifically, considers the holster to be a safety device.

Look, there is no need for this to devolve anymore. Loboboy, you are more than welcome to your opinions. For the record, the bulk of fellows here are not Glockites, Glock-o-maniacs, or any other witty epithets. Those terms are reserved for the mall-ninjas who seem so often to frequent gunshows.

Read my posts regarding the dislike of such folks. As to broad statements, you will find I counter you when you cannot substantiate your statements such as Glocks being safer than revolvers.

Ash
 
Heck, they're a nice pistol for what they were designed to be.

I don't own one, I went XD instead for a plastic pistol, mainly for the grip angle, feel and grip safety. But, I see nothing wrong with Glocks and this bad mouthing of them is really pretty funny. I've never met a gun I didn't like, at least a little bit.

I'm willing to bet that if those that despise Glocks were given a new one for free, they would keep it. They might not admit it, but they would keep it. ;)

A little G26 might even end up under my ownership someday? :scrutiny:

Oh yea, I'm plenty secure enough to own a Glock, or any pistol, and not be worried of being defined by others that have bought them or the owner of company that makes them. :rolleyes: ;)
 
I don't have a problem with the looks, but the feel of them is terrible. :barf:

For me personally, there is no way I would buy a Glock after handling and firing my dad's two XD's.

With that said, and at the risk of sounding like an old man trapped in a sub-30 year old body, I still carry a Kimber 1911 more than anything else.

TO EACH HIS OWN. :cool:
 
Bobby Lee.. We All Can't Be Experts Like You..!!

Bobby Lee.. you said, "It seems to me that someone with 40 plus years of firearms experience would know the Glock is not a single action".

Well you're right. I've re-counted the years and I actually have 52 or 53 years.. that is if you count the first time I started shooting with a J. C. Higgens single shot, bolt action .22 rifle, which I think was at the age of 8 or 9. But that's neither here nor there.

I, (unlike you, who quite obviously by your remark must be a expert on Glocks) am the first one to admit I know very little about the inner workings of Glocks. The reason.. "I don't own a Glock, want a Glock, could care less about a Glock, etc., etc." So from my perspective, it doesn't matter to me whether a Glock is single, double, triple or a no action at all type pistol.

The "general" point I was trying to make was done so very well by "Ash" in his comments. Like he said.. "revolvers have been carried naked in pockets for the past 100 years with very little problems". While on the other hand, how many of you would want to carry a Glock in your pocket the same way?

FireStar_M40
 
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