Why do people take comments about a pistol....

Status
Not open for further replies.
NGIB,

An aside: I was curious to ask if you felt that an oddity might exist within your choices of signature phrases?

Proud to be a veteran and still serving. (USAF retired, Army civilian). When you lose your right to self-determination, through legislation or taxation, servitude is soon to follow - NGIB
Click to expand...
 
No, I like my sig line - wrote it myself.

The first part, I'm retired military, so I'm a veteran. I work for the Army as a civilian so I still serve this country.

The second part relates to all the targeted taxation that's come down the pike. Your rights can be subdued just as quick by taxes as by legislation...
 
A lot of people feel as though criticisms of their personal choices are simply flippant comments that they are wrong, ignorant, and/or foolish in those choices.
 
My guns are an expression me, just like me cats

No really, there is fluffy, and furball.

ok, sarcasm aside, some people get so revved up over what is a good gun, look at the glock / XD fight, I like the glock, but when I bought my XD it was $100 cheaper. Then you have your caliber fighters,

Hell I bought a vz. 82 just so I could practice refinishing, even made a sandblaster for the job. I sporterized a 1930 hex MN 91/30, blue bolt and compensator, synthetic stock with recoil pad, that's because it kicked the sh** out me. It's not even a forced match.

I buy gun I find interesting, or to for a job I think I need a gun / caliber to do.
 
Originally Posted by JohnKSa on another forum:

I don't fully agree with Ian Fleming's analysis but I agree that people get overly wrapped up in what weapons they own. I think that people tend to mix their identities & their weapons choices. i.e. People tend to take any negative comments about one of their weapons as a personal attack. I believe that the largest part of this blurring of identity with weapons choices is the desire to rely on a weapon for safety instead of acknowledging that the weapon is merely a tool and that safety is dependent far more on the person than on the tool. The result is that anything that negatively impacts the owner's view of his weapon therefore also negatively impacts on his feeling of security and on his ability to provide his own security.
Click to expand...

Still the most plausible and concise single-post conjecture I've read on the subject.
 
If a question, or anwer to a question, is posted with decency and respect and is greeted with hostility by another user then the user is probably emotionally immature and insecure. Perhaps excessively egotistical, they are twin character defects.

I very much appreciate peoples advice and hearing about there experiences with particular makes, models, brands, calibers, etc. I also know I am not above reproach, make silly or bad choices at times, and know that my identity is not defined by my firearm choice. The only thing my firearm choices define is my ability to make a wise and prudent firearm choice for a given application.
 
The same reason a person gets upset when someone slams their favorite football team, tv show, automobile and so on. Because they value something that you don't and they view it as a personal attack.
 
I'm too much of a noob to be arrogant about my choice of handgun. I happen to have 2 handguns of the same brand that I really like - one for emotional reasons, one for results reasons. Both are effective.

Ideally we are all hear to learn about other options out there and get experiences good or bad.

I listed to both sides, and the level of knowledge about what I'm asking. If I ask for experiences with Brand X firearm and I have somebody tell me they sold theirs after a week, somebody tell me they had theirs for 20 years, and somebody tell me they heard that it behaved like XXXX, I take their level of experience or inexperience and weight it so.

If somebody wants to knock what I own, that's fine, but it is how they back up their comments that matters to me. Other than that, I move on.

This is just the Internet. If you take comments about an OBJECT so seriously that you think it questions you personally, I dare suggest there are deeper issues at hand.
 
Wow! Ford vs Chevy. Colts vs Raiders. North vs South.

I think we are basically in need of belonging to one TRIBE or another. Choose your Tribe. Join. and defend until the death.

Or until a better TRIBE comes along :)
 
Because people don't really come here looking to learn they come here looking for validation of previously held opinions.
Click to expand...

Too true in many cases. Fortunately, there are those who do come here to really learn.
 
First rule of a gunfight is...

to have a gun. "Brand snobs" can say whatever they want, but if you have a gun, you're in. Mind you, if you take a Bryco to Gunsite you'd get some really funny looks and some well-deserved derision, at least you had a gun!

The funny thing about denegrating any gun is that it feeds into the hands of those who hate all guns. If Joe sixpack goes out hunting with his Pappy's Winchester Model 12 every day, does that make him any better than Johnny Disco who spends most of his time surfing and can only afford to buy a Lorcin .25 to keep on his bedstand? Are Johnny and Joe less of gun owners than Jimbo who hunts beer cans in the Quarry with his converted Saiga-12 with an EOTECH scope, Night Vision goggles, Wraithmaker drum mag, and face paint? Are Johnny, Joe, and Jimbo less of people than Jonathon who thinks everybody is out to get him and packs an SIS .45 pistol on his hip?

I welcome them all, people and guns. Pink pistols? Come on in, have a beer. White Supremecists? Jews for the Protection of Firearms Ownership? Geeks with Guns!? Black Panthers? Biker dudes? Airsoft Wanabees? Boy Scouts? Girl Scouts? Why not... gun owners are all welcome.
 
Lorcins? Face paint in the quarry? There's a joke in there somewhere. ;)

Meanwhile, of course the Model 12 gets more respect. You'll find gun owners to be quite traditional for the most part and very respectful when it comes to working guns that are still the essence of quality and going on a century old.

Face paint in a quarry? What's up with that?

John
 
In the end they are just pieces of metal. They are a tool. They do not define us or make us who we are.
Click to expand...

Don't talk that way in front of Sweetness!! What if she hears you? There there sweetness, good SIG. Don't believe what the big, scary man says.
 
Face paint in a quarry? What's up with that?
Click to expand...

Hey, if Jimbo wants to play Ninja in the Quarry, it's his prerogative. I remember riding my bannana-seated bike up to the quarry with a jar of shot I'd "liberated" from my dad's pallets of shot. Call me stupid, but I just LOVED tossing handfulls of that stuff off the edge to the bottom where they all hit the water at the same time and make a cool, "sssssHHHHHEWWWWW" sound. Must've been where all this craziness came from, lead poisoning. I'm sure I'd packed a lunch and never saw a lick of soap the whole day! Licking lead-flavored peanut butter off my fingers. Mmmmmm.

But, HEY, it's a free country... well less-so nowadays but it's still a little free, right?
 
White Supremecists?... Black Panthers?... Why not... gun owners are all welcome.
Click to expand...
A gun may be too big a responsibility for those with severe mental retardation...
 
Racial Supremecists are just the extreme of a belief system. So long as they act lawfully, they are gun owners and they are welcome. Don't think I'm inviting either of them over to diner (especially at the same time) anytime soon, but my prejudices lie SQUARELY against those who are anti-gun. Whatever your race, whatever your religion, whatever your ethnicity, whatever your sexual preference, if you let me own a gun you are my friend. Don't care if you've got a Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, Jiminez, Excam, Astra, Glock, H&K, SIG, Ruger, or whatever. Gunz is gunz.
 
It's interesting that you bring this up. I've always been amazed at just how wound up people can get if you politely disagree with their opinion of a weapon; be it good or bad.

It's not limited to just the gun itelf. The people who get angry if you share a bad experience with Colt, Glock, etc, ect. get irate if you disagree with their pet caliber or ideas of good and bad tactics.

Even more interesting is that these can be great people to talk to in almost any other conversation. Get them talking about guns and if you do anything other than smile and nod they turn into wide-eyed slobbering fanatics.
 
My major reason for mentioning a gun is either the quality inherent in it's design, materials and manufacture or it's lack thereof. I get angry when I see someone talking about their neat new pot metal wondergun with the big price tag. I'm not putting them down, I want others who are reading the thread to know before they get all goo goo eyed about it down at the local ripoff artist's gun store that they are buying junk! On the other hand, if a gun has extraordinary quality for the price I heap praises on the manufacturer.

There are things to learn here, if I tell you a gun is made of zamak go find out for yourself, if you think zamak is a proper gun material then knock yourself out. My job is done when I express my opinions about certain guns, in the end it's "Caveat Emptor".

For instance, if I mention a gun that I know from personal experience is well made and functions well out of the box that is no guarantee that the one you buy will be. Did I lie? Hardly, you might be the unfortunate buyer of a bad example.
But if I tell people about a zinc gun and someone else says "I have 9 billion rounds through mine without a failure" then all I can say is that something stinks in Copenhagen, someone is in the business of making and selling junk guns!

So everyone who bought a junk gun without knowing it was made of inferior materials thinks I'm picking on them when I say it here. :rolleyes:

They should say "I wish someone had mentioned that earlier".
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

FIVETWOSEVEN
  • Locked
Why do people consider SIG Sauer pistols ugly?
2
Replies
48
Views
3K
Oro
O
CZF
  • Locked
American Travel Pistol?
Replies
5
Views
632
middy
M
J
  • Locked
Why choose a 1911?
2 3 4
Replies
96
Views
4K
dmazur
D
Milkmaster
  • Locked
Why is the Shield EZ just for weak hands?
2
Replies
27
Views
2K
cougar1717
cougar1717
Hokkmike
  • Locked
Why do some people ridicule Glock owners?
2 3 4
Replies
76
Views
5K
9mmepiphany
9mmepiphany
Back
Top