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Gun Fit.
Just me, still gun fit is something that needs to be considered.
There is a difference in a civilian being able to choose one, and being Issued a shotgun.
Police, Military, Correction Officers, Armored Guards for instance are going to be issued a shotgun, be trained in its MOA, maintenance and protocol.
These guns are NOT going to have some safeties flipped where a left handed person pushes one way and other guns are left as factory right handed safeties.
Training is going to mean if you are left handed, you will run the issued gun as it was issued.
It does not matter if top tang, forward on trigger guard, back of trigger guard, or "suicide" safety - inside the trigger guard.
It does not matter if you like a certain gun, or safety postition, you will train and have to pass qualifications with that issued shotgun.
Even that PGO issued to Armored Car Guards.
Expert??
Who cares??
Just because the Military Issues Playtex bras and Hanes Sports Bras and Panties does not mean I am going to run out and buy a a dozen of these.
I know damn well just because I wear Fruit of The Loom briefs, John Shirley's gal is not going to show up wearing these if I were to assist her in shooting skeet too.
Silly?
Hellno.
Shotguns are dangerous tools, and with any tool, especially a dangerous tool, one would be wise to get what fits them, as a civilian and get what fits them, and get quality instruction and continue quality practice.
Issued by a Dept, one is wise to pay attention, follow protocol, know that MOA and qualify and maintain qualifications "at least" and on their own, be the the best they can with whatever issued, even if they personally hate the damn thing.
Re: Safety is between the ears.
Anything can and will break, and Mr. Murphy prefers to do this, at the worst possible time.
I and mine removed safeties on purpose on shotguns we competed with.
Serious shooting and we removed as much "anything" that might fail.
This was legal and allowed. We NEVER had an accident, never!
WE that knew each other used the same guns to hunt with, ducks, doves, quail.
NDs IME/IMO were just that Negligent.
Name a gun, platform, and safety position and one has ND-ed.
Mossberg, top tang, crossing a fence...it was not unloaded first.
Rem 1100, jumping a ditch, it was not unloaded before jumping.
Bennelli Eagle ND-ed shooting skeet, nervous first time shooter.
Kreighoff, Perazzi , these also had fingers in trigger guards, when shutting a trap house door, or picking up a soda can that blew off a bench onto field.
Money Gun is a nickname for a 870 28ga. It has around 300,000 rds through it.
It has extra barrels, parts and all including trigger groups.
Most of its rounds have been fired with the trigger group, without a safety.
We shared this gun for serious pump gun events, and doubles.
We have felled ducks, doves, and quail with this same gun too, without a safety.
Me and my kind that shared this gun.
We had a 1300s in all 4 gauges too, and again in 28 ga for serious pump gun events, the trigger group used had safety removed.
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Point being, it does not matter what anyone else uses.
It does matter what fits each person, and how they are trained and competent in the use of shotgun.
John Shirley is damn good at what he does. He Prefers a Mossberg with top tang and reduced recoil slugs.
Lee Lapin is damn good, he prefers 870s.
His wife, is damn good and it would blow your minds as to her training and she trained using Mossbergs.
Dave, 870s
Okie and 311s in 20 ga
Body Guard I know, Ranger, Ithaca 37 is what he used in 'Nam and preferred for his BodyGuard and his personal home, travel gun, hunting shotgun.
Are these experts? They will say "No".
What they are, is one with the gun they have chosen. This is the key.
I guarantee you tell John Shirley, Lee Lapin, his wife, or Dave, or Okie - "Here is a Ithaca 37 in 20 gauge and this what you have to know" - and they will become one with that gun in short order.
Focus on the target- not the equipment - Will Fennell
Software - not Hardware.
Just me, still gun fit is something that needs to be considered.
There is a difference in a civilian being able to choose one, and being Issued a shotgun.
Police, Military, Correction Officers, Armored Guards for instance are going to be issued a shotgun, be trained in its MOA, maintenance and protocol.
These guns are NOT going to have some safeties flipped where a left handed person pushes one way and other guns are left as factory right handed safeties.
Training is going to mean if you are left handed, you will run the issued gun as it was issued.
It does not matter if top tang, forward on trigger guard, back of trigger guard, or "suicide" safety - inside the trigger guard.
It does not matter if you like a certain gun, or safety postition, you will train and have to pass qualifications with that issued shotgun.
Even that PGO issued to Armored Car Guards.
Expert??
Who cares??
Just because the Military Issues Playtex bras and Hanes Sports Bras and Panties does not mean I am going to run out and buy a a dozen of these.
I know damn well just because I wear Fruit of The Loom briefs, John Shirley's gal is not going to show up wearing these if I were to assist her in shooting skeet too.
Silly?
Hellno.
Shotguns are dangerous tools, and with any tool, especially a dangerous tool, one would be wise to get what fits them, as a civilian and get what fits them, and get quality instruction and continue quality practice.
Issued by a Dept, one is wise to pay attention, follow protocol, know that MOA and qualify and maintain qualifications "at least" and on their own, be the the best they can with whatever issued, even if they personally hate the damn thing.
Re: Safety is between the ears.
Anything can and will break, and Mr. Murphy prefers to do this, at the worst possible time.
I and mine removed safeties on purpose on shotguns we competed with.
Serious shooting and we removed as much "anything" that might fail.
This was legal and allowed. We NEVER had an accident, never!
WE that knew each other used the same guns to hunt with, ducks, doves, quail.
NDs IME/IMO were just that Negligent.
Name a gun, platform, and safety position and one has ND-ed.
Mossberg, top tang, crossing a fence...it was not unloaded first.
Rem 1100, jumping a ditch, it was not unloaded before jumping.
Bennelli Eagle ND-ed shooting skeet, nervous first time shooter.
Kreighoff, Perazzi , these also had fingers in trigger guards, when shutting a trap house door, or picking up a soda can that blew off a bench onto field.
Money Gun is a nickname for a 870 28ga. It has around 300,000 rds through it.
It has extra barrels, parts and all including trigger groups.
Most of its rounds have been fired with the trigger group, without a safety.
We shared this gun for serious pump gun events, and doubles.
We have felled ducks, doves, and quail with this same gun too, without a safety.
Me and my kind that shared this gun.
We had a 1300s in all 4 gauges too, and again in 28 ga for serious pump gun events, the trigger group used had safety removed.
-
Point being, it does not matter what anyone else uses.
It does matter what fits each person, and how they are trained and competent in the use of shotgun.
John Shirley is damn good at what he does. He Prefers a Mossberg with top tang and reduced recoil slugs.
Lee Lapin is damn good, he prefers 870s.
His wife, is damn good and it would blow your minds as to her training and she trained using Mossbergs.
Dave, 870s
Okie and 311s in 20 ga
Body Guard I know, Ranger, Ithaca 37 is what he used in 'Nam and preferred for his BodyGuard and his personal home, travel gun, hunting shotgun.
Are these experts? They will say "No".
What they are, is one with the gun they have chosen. This is the key.
I guarantee you tell John Shirley, Lee Lapin, his wife, or Dave, or Okie - "Here is a Ithaca 37 in 20 gauge and this what you have to know" - and they will become one with that gun in short order.
Focus on the target- not the equipment - Will Fennell
Software - not Hardware.
