Big Mike
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Well, my CCW is a 92 Brigadier. Just fine for me...Mike
Why is the Beretta 92FS so underated?
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Handy
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Island,
Did I answer your criticisms?
George,
Did you locate your .45?
Come on, haven't heard from you guys all weekend!
Did I answer your criticisms?
George,
Did you locate your .45?
Come on, haven't heard from you guys all weekend!
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Handy
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You know, the full size USP is MASSIVE for a 9mm. But it is:
.05" shorter than the Beretta 92
.24" narrower than the Beretta 92
8 oz. lighter than the Beretta 92
Are you sure you want to negatively compare the size of the USP to the Beretta?
.05" shorter than the Beretta 92
.24" narrower than the Beretta 92
8 oz. lighter than the Beretta 92
Are you sure you want to negatively compare the size of the USP to the Beretta?
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Handy
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No, it's not.
No one said the 8045 is a Browning lock, either.
Its recoil operated and locked by a rotating barrel. Same as the M2.
No one said the 8045 is a Browning lock, either.
Its recoil operated and locked by a rotating barrel. Same as the M2.
Well I need some further education then.
From the Beretta Cougar manual available online at beretta.it:
"The Cougar series pistols employ a short recoil locked breech system, simple and practical, based on the secure lock of the slide to the barrel. The barrel locking and unlocking rotation is caused by its axial movement through the double cam acting on the central block tooth."
So there is a block of some sort that provides the breech lock. Perhaps it is not a classical "oscillating wedge," but it is still a locking block of a type, isn't it?
From the Beretta Cougar manual available online at beretta.it:
"The Cougar series pistols employ a short recoil locked breech system, simple and practical, based on the secure lock of the slide to the barrel. The barrel locking and unlocking rotation is caused by its axial movement through the double cam acting on the central block tooth."
So there is a block of some sort that provides the breech lock. Perhaps it is not a classical "oscillating wedge," but it is still a locking block of a type, isn't it?
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Handy
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Nope.
The "double cam" is probably the two projections that radiate from the barrel. One is wedged into a recess in the slide, the other is cammed into a groove in the locking area of the frame. As the slide and barrel recoil, the "central block tooth" angles against the lower barrel projection and rotates the barrel. Once the barrel has rotated far enough the other projection clears its slide recess and the slide can continue on it's own.
This system is simpler than the wedge system but retains the same straight line feeding. It is essentially a similar principle to the Browning system, but uses rotation rather than tilt. It doesn't seem to be as accurate as either, at least in the Berettas, and requires good lubrication (the M2 does, anyway).
This is similar looking, but completely different than the MAB rotating barrel.
The "double cam" is probably the two projections that radiate from the barrel. One is wedged into a recess in the slide, the other is cammed into a groove in the locking area of the frame. As the slide and barrel recoil, the "central block tooth" angles against the lower barrel projection and rotates the barrel. Once the barrel has rotated far enough the other projection clears its slide recess and the slide can continue on it's own.
This system is simpler than the wedge system but retains the same straight line feeding. It is essentially a similar principle to the Browning system, but uses rotation rather than tilt. It doesn't seem to be as accurate as either, at least in the Berettas, and requires good lubrication (the M2 does, anyway).
This is similar looking, but completely different than the MAB rotating barrel.
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Handy
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Actually, I thought you might be kidding.
I was responding to the post you quoted, by Erik.
I was responding to the post you quoted, by Erik.
Rickstir
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"Baby" was my first 9mm. Bought new the 92FS has been flawless in about 3000 rounds. Hi cap mags are a benefit. Mine is stock in the trigger set up. Seems okay to me. I do have big hands and it fits like a glove. I use it for HD and open carry here in Missouri.
If we get CCW I may have to switch to a smaller gun.
I like mine and am glad I have it.
If we get CCW I may have to switch to a smaller gun.
I like mine and am glad I have it.
Robby from Long Island
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Bought my first handgun 12 years ago after researching many articles and visiting several gun shops. Found the 92FS to be the perfect fit for my hands and to this day haven't found a gun that I like better.
Since that original purchase have acquired many additional handguns from .22LR to .454 Casull and everything in between, but the gun that still defends my home is my 92FS. After many thousands of rounds, can honestly say it never once failed to feed or eject properly regardless of the ammo.
There has always been the detractors who rant and rave about problems with slide failures and locking blocks, but most of them are relating hearsay from people relating hearsay.
I've never none one person who had a problem with their 92.
Some of the stories you hear remind me of one I heard on one of the gun forums the other day. The guy was telling someone never to buy a Benelli shotgun as when they are fired the barrels fly off the gun, and he has seen it happen to several Benelli's.........RIGHT.
Safe shooting.
Since that original purchase have acquired many additional handguns from .22LR to .454 Casull and everything in between, but the gun that still defends my home is my 92FS. After many thousands of rounds, can honestly say it never once failed to feed or eject properly regardless of the ammo.
There has always been the detractors who rant and rave about problems with slide failures and locking blocks, but most of them are relating hearsay from people relating hearsay.
I've never none one person who had a problem with their 92.
Some of the stories you hear remind me of one I heard on one of the gun forums the other day. The guy was telling someone never to buy a Benelli shotgun as when they are fired the barrels fly off the gun, and he has seen it happen to several Benelli's.........RIGHT.
Safe shooting.
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