Why on Earth do you need a gun!?

[mete]

" psychology major" that tells it all ! Sadly all too many go into the psychology and psychiatry fields to cure their own problems.

 

[Shovelhead]

From WJLA.com

Domestic Dispute Eyed in Falls Church City Homicide
Friday November 19, 2004 1:24pm


Falls Church City, Va. (AP) - The first homicide in Falls Church City since 1997 is shaping up to be the result of a domestic dispute.

City officials say a Vietnamese man stabbed his ex-wife to death, then apparently stabbed himself. The 41-year-old woman worked in a coffee store at the shopping center on Wilson Boulevard where the violence took place Thursday afternoon. An autopsy was done this morning, but police are still waiting for word from the medical examiner on the cause of death.

The ex-husband remains hospitalized in stable condition after surgery. Authorities recovered the knife they believe he used.

The couple has a ten-year-old daughter.

 

[Ryder]

At least they know (and caught?) the guy why shot up this store.

Why do I need a gun? Because there are murderers walking free among us and nobody knows who they are. The current Crime Stoppers playing in my area is for the murder and arson of a married couple in their own home.

Unlikely to happen to me? Doesn't matter, I am not a gambler.

 

[Dave R]

Some good quotes. I like C.R. Sam's quote.

"You cannot script, not schedule, your next encounter."

 

[poesraven]

I'm trying to remember who the women was from a few years back, "I believe she was a state rep or something to do w working for the gov/"don't quote me on that though. But, she was somewhere w/ her parents at a restraurant or someplace when it was being robbed- the SCUM BAGS shot her parents right infront of her, and at the time she didn't have her gun on her "I'm don't recall exactly why", but after that she became a strong advocate for CC- THIS WAS AN EYE-OPENER..... IF ANYONE RECALLS THIS IT WOULD BE VERY INFORMATIVE TO POST!

 

[Pebcac]

From Google: http://www.gunownersalliance.com/hupp-10.htm

 

[FPrice]

poesraven...

"THIS WAS AN EYE-OPENER..... IF ANYONE RECALLS THIS IT WOULD BE VERY INFORMATIVE TO POST!"

The woman was Dr. Suzanne Gratia-Hupp and it was the Luby's incident. This link should refresh your memory.

http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/arnj051400.htm

 

[sm]

I agree with and do carry for many reasons already posted.

I have to quote my friend CRSam though: One never knows the where or when of next encounter.

 

[Standing Wolf]

I never leave the house without a gun because my life is of great value to me.

 

[poesraven]

Thank you both Pebcac & FPrice for the links, Yes that is what I remember, it was on Tv years back. Just another reason when those opposed to CC -believe it couldn't happen to them!, And as shown by what happened, AND It wasn't "IN THE BAD PART OF TOWN", Just a little every day public place to have a PEACEFUL bite to eat.

 

[Zonamo]

people in your area have heart attacks all the time, but you wouldn't consider carrying a defibrillator around in a backpack 24/7.

I don't CCW a FN-FAL either, but I do keep my CPR training current and I do CCW a small defensive firearm.

 

[FPrice]

Why do you NEED a gun?

I've always felt that this was a wrong question.

It should be, "You need the right to own a gun and the freedom to either have one or not as you see fit.

 

[Wingshooter]

people in your area have heart attacks all the time, but you wouldn't consider carrying a defibrillator around in a backpack 24/7.

When they start placing guns in cases every 200 feet in public places like they do AED's then I might reconsider.

I wonder how long before some nutcase uses an easily available defibrillator as a weapon?

It's actually an AED, meaning it will only work if there is a shockable rythm. You have no control over that part. You just push the button when it tells you to. The only real purpose it would have as far as being a weapon is as a bludgeon. It doesn't have paddles, they are sticky pads that attach to the patient.

 

[CTI1USNRET]

Bad guys are mobile. You'll never know where or when you'll encounter them. If I had any idea about the when and where I just wouldn't go there at that time. Since God didn't bless me with clairvoyance, I carry every time I leave the house. I have licenses for the states I live in and travel to.

Because I refuse to listen to anybody who says, "They don't want to harm you. They just want your money."

I'll leave it up to others to plead for their lives while being led to a back room. That is not an option for me.

Bad people doing horrible things are everywhere. I'm not paranoid. To watch TV and read the papers and still believe, "It won't happen to me," is evidence of a learning disability.

I carry whenever I leave the house and it's beside me when I'm home.

 

[JohnKSa]

people in your area have heart attacks all the time, but you wouldn't consider carrying a defibrillator around in a backpack 24/7.

I would not only CONSIDER it, I would CARRY one if it were as small & reliable as my carry gun and as easy to use.

Besides, the impossibility of preparing for everything is not a reason to prepare for nothing.

the thing you most want to be prepared for is shooting someone

It's not about shooting someone--it's about them NOT shooting me.

 

[artherd]

I tell my CCW students that if they carry a gun in an effort to improve their personal safety, they should also learn first aid and CPR, wear their seat belts, and try to stay in shape. They don't HAVE to do these things, but they are more likely to need a seat belt then a gun and more people die of heart disease then violent crime. A defensive gun is just one way you can make yourself safer.

Agreed, and do all the above and more. All part of preparedness and self-reliance.

 

[Majic]

People sometimes ask -- why in world to you need to carry a gun?

Personal reasons that are none of your business.

 

[Baba Louie]

Why on Earth do you need a gun!?

For some strange reason, outlaws never seem to show up when I'm standing next to a police officer. I wonder why?

-OR-

Sometimes bad things happen to good guys.

-OR-

It's that whole Boy Scout thing... Be Prepared

But my usual answer to that is the old, tried but true, I'd rather have it and not need it than need it but not have it.

 

[M2 Carbine]

Why on Earth do you need a gun!?
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Intelligent, knowledgeable people, as much as reasonable, prepare for emergencies that may cause them harm.

They protect themselves from harm as best they can.

Even though the odds of some kinds of harm are greater, it's impossible or silly thinking that an individual can protect themselves against all dangers.

Carrying a gun for protection is easy.

What dangers you protect yourself from doesn't necessarily depend on the likelihood of that danger happening but depends on your ability to reasonably protect yourself from that danger.

I flew helicopters over the Gulf of Mexico for about 17,000 hours.
These aircraft were equipped with floats in case of an emergency water landing.
Statistically the chances of ever having to pop the floats was very small, I never got my feet wet, but having the floats on the helicopters was reasonable protection to an unlikely event.

Smart people prepare before the event.

Dumb people prepare after the event.

 

[Guyon]

Based on the reaction so far, I am sorry I posted my thoughts. Nevermind.

Too often, folks post on this board with the expectation that everyone is going to jump in automatically on their side. Preaching to the choir really doesn't constitute a productive exchange, now does it? If someone needs thoughtless affirmation, then a cult might be a good starting place.

I thought Billmanweh made a good point. From the perspective of a person who is not a gun owner, it would seem a bit odd that CCW'ers go to such lengths in their particular form of preparation. Better to explain how concealed carry is just part of a larger strategy of being prepared--as some here have pointed out.

 

[Mannlicher]

My wife grew up on tenth, just a few blocks from Gateway. She was shocked to say the least.

 

[Byron Quick]

about that defib thing, a defib is used AFTER a heart attack. it does not PREVENT a heart attack as a firearm can PREVENT an attack.

Sorry, the above statement is not true. Defibrillators are used on shockable arrhythmias such as ventricular fibrillation and ventricular tachycardia. While these can result from heart attacks; they also can result from other causes. Also, other arrhythmias, which are not shockable, can arise during a heart attack. In fact, there are more unshockable arrhythmias for which attempts at treatment use drugs than there are shockable arrhythmias.

Oh, for the fellow who started the defibrillation thingie. When a cardiologist determines that a person needs a 24/7 defibrillator then one will be implanted in that person's chest wall. And if you wanted one implanted and had the money to pay for it then I am sure you could find a surgeon to accomodate you. The insurance company would consider it to be elective surgery under those circumstances. This is actually a poor analogy.

Me? I carry a gun for doing so has saved my life in the past.

 

[another okie]

One thing I've learned teaching at a junior college: Avoid the psych majors! One of them drowned one of her children quite recently. I would say that a lot of them seem to be on medication, which is true, but I'm not sure they they are a higher percentage than the general student population. Whatever their major is it seems like about a third are either on Ritalin, Prozac, Halidol or something similar. And they talk about it quite openly and show one another their prescriptions.

 

[JohnKSa]

another okie,

True more often than not. It's been my experience that psych majors enter the field in an attempt to self-diagnose.

 

[Sean85746]

WHY ON EARTH DO I NEED A GUN?

Hmmmmm...maybe because swords are out of style.

Seriously...I carry a gun, because I have chosen to take responsibility for my own safety, and for the safety of my greatest treasure...my family.

I have been there when the balloon has gone up, and had I not been armed...I would have been a victim, not a combatant. There is a difference. A combatant can fight, a victim can't. I choose never to be a victim.

I agree with you DDGator...I never carry my gun, hoping I will need it. I carry it, as my other tools, hoping I NEVER need them but glad that I have them.

Bless you all...and shame on you if you are not carrying now.