Why video and audio recording are changing the nature of police work.

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This is going to happen more and more often as the availability of cheap recording equipment becomes available.
 
ET is right but anything that occurs in "public" and is done by "public" entities such as police should be fair game for video, audio, still photo, daguerreotype, etch-a-sketch, oil painting or portable MRI by the citizenry at large. anything to the contrary is a potential violation of the 1st amendment.
 
Rule of thumb is that if an officer can record you, you can record him. Worst case scenario, you'd need to have him sign a waiver acknowledging that he knows he's being taped, just as officers have you sign similar forms when they pull you over.
 
If the intent is to release the video to the press. Especially if the filmer has already submitted material to the press, it should readily be covered under freedom of the press.

The authorities trying to raise problems with a filmer over an LEO caught in wrongdoing would actually be on the defensive if they tried to prosecute.
 
That cop should be fired, I think his job is more than he can handle.

Maybe he had a bad night or something, but he seems a bit unstable to me.

It's especially telling when he starts saying that he can "make up 9 different charges" and starts screaming "you wanna try me" at the guy. Any cops that says stuff like that is a little too impressed with his power and should be let go immediately.
 
It's especially telling when he starts saying that he can "make up 9 different charges" and starts screaming "you wanna try me" at the guy. Any cops that says stuff like that is a little too impressed with his power and should be let go immediately.
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Any cop that abuses his power like that shouldn't get fired, they should go directly to jail. :cuss:
 
just as officers have you sign similar forms when they pull you over.
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Not in my jurisdiction.

That cop should be fired, I think his job is more than he can handle.
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Agreed. We don't need bad apples like that on the job. Still, it happens, and try as we might to screen them out, some get through. I thought this thread was going to be about the video and audio recordings we (LEO's) make. We've installed digital recorders in our cars that require a physical key to access and download at the end of each shift. This is done at the end of every shift, and your video and audio recording goes on automatically when your blue lights go on. You can also turn the video on manually before your blue lights, but you have no choice when your lights go on.

With a system like that, the kind of behavior that the cop in the linked video displayed would result in a quick reprimand and a firing if it continued. Overall, I've found that the video is my best friend. It used to be your word against the public's and you were automatically under suspicion when a complaint was filed. I loved it the first time I had a complaint against me and the video revealed that the complainant was the one who was loud, abusive and cursing. In fact, I was complimented on my courtesy and diplomacy in the face of abuse. :D

Any officer worth his salt likes and uses the video and audio recording equipment we have available to us now. It's as much a protection for us as it is for the public. I'm all in favor of weeding out the bad apples.
 
Can anyone identify what department he works for? It is time to light up the phones and mailboxes.
 
What is with the clicking in the background. That is really annoying. If that was added, it sucks.

I am just sure this kid had a smirk on his face knowing this was getting recorded, but it still doesn't excuse the officers behavior. Officers really should make the effort to be professional. That wasn't professional.
 
I like the personal recorder idea. If I am not mistaken, some officers on this site mentioned they prefer to be recorded as it keeps people from accusing them of this type of behavior when they didn't do it.
 
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1961.asp

Sergeant James Kuehnlein works for the St. George, MO police department. It's one of the 99 tiny "speed trap villages" in St. Louis county. Seven hundred households with a median income $33,000.

Apparently too poor/small to have a city web page.
According to the news report, 28% of city revenue comes from TRAFFIC tickets.

Mayor Harold Goodman 314-256-0851

Chief is Scott Uhrig.
9041 Southview Lane
St. George, MO 63123
City telephone number is (314) 631-1295.
Fax is (314) 631-2252
 
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In some states (I think PA is one) isn't it illegal to record a cop while he's doing official duty?
 
The cop and the young man both had attitudes. If you look at the big picture that cop is putting his life on line everyday? Are you willing to do that?
 
The cop and the young man both had attitudes. If you look at the big picture that cop is putting his life on line everyday? Are you willing to do that?
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That is absolutely no excuse to be a rude, power hungry a**hole. I don't care if he's been shot twelve times in the line of duty. He knew the risks when he signed up for the job. Police officers have a responsibility to be respectful and set an example at all times, bad day or not. Those that cannot do not deserve a badge.
 
The cop and the young man both had attitudes. If you look at the big picture that cop is putting his life on line everyday? Are you willing to do that?
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How exactly does the young man do ANYTHING to deserve the attitude that he gets?

As for putting your life on the line, well that gives you exactly NO right to be unprofessional, abusive, and especially the crap about making up stuff to put the kid in jail, towing his car, and especially the ripping the camera out. That is a half admission that the officer was willing to tamper with evidence to cover up his actions! How do you even try to justify such crap?
 
I was scared watching that video. I honestly hate to say it, but, I'd honestly be terrified for my own safety. Are you completely exempt from self-defense in a situation like that?
 
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