Will H&K manufacture the 416 as a 9mm/.45 submachine gun?

[grimjaw]

The real question is: If they make it, will they sell it to civilians?

Oh yes, and they'll all be delivered individually by flying buttmonkeys.

jm

 

[Jason_G]

Isn't the MP5 blow-back, stamped metal, and cheap to produce? Admittedly it's delayed blow-back, but there's still noting in it's manufacture that's all that inherently expensive. Stampings are cheap. Hammer forged barrels are cheap. Plastic moldings are cheap.Heck, they make them under license in places like Mexico, Pakistan, and Turkey. It's not like they're all hand forged by übermenschen under the direct supervision of Thor himself.

I've never heard from anybody who actually used a variety of subguns who thought that the MP5 was the pinnacle of Teutonic perfection that the fanboys seem to believe as an article of faith.

Yet, it is. Delayed blowback, perhaps, but its a stamp-metal gun that can be pumped out fairly simply. The difference between it and the cobrays?

We can buy the cobrays.

I don't know about Thor's gun producing abilities, but I can guarantee if you look at the quality of fit and finish of an MP5 vs. that of an Ingram, Cobray, etc., you will see a marked difference. I understand that they are overpriced, I'm not debating that. I'm just saying that they are in a higher level of quality than most of your stamped SMGs. The action is more complicated, the internal parts are more than likely going to have much more precise tolerances, and I would almost be willing to bet that their forging process, and the steel used in the guns is superior to most of these other "cheaply" produced guns.

Jason