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Hey all,
Hope everyone's doing well and keeping busy .
I thought I'd share some thoughts and experiences with winchester brass to see if others feel the same or if I've just been unlucky.
I don't typically separate pistol brass by headstamp but it seems most brass that doesn't pass inspection is winchester. I've had dozens of their cases that had rim thickness variation so great that the case wouldn't fit in the shell holder in 357 mag and now in 454 casull as well.
I've known about the 357 brass for a while now but it became very obvious earlier this year when I got some factory winchester ammo with a freedom arms revolver. Several rounds would not allow the cylinder to turn in the FA due to rim thickness - they chambered fine in a SRH and I know the FA is a tight chamber and close tolerance gun. Didn't think much of it.
I went to reload those cases and 2 out of 56 also wouldn't fit in the shell holder. 3 others had primer pockets too loose for my taste and all but 10 were below minimum trim length. So out of 56 I ended up with 10 useable cases. I understand I can load the short cases but I wont, I trim to a consistent length for proper flaring and crimping.
After the other issues I've had with it I just have zero confidence in their components. I don't see how the tolerances are that poor. If the dimensions are that far off it makes me concerned about materials and all other aspects of the product. I'm certainly not going to test it out with loads in excess of 50,000 psi.
Anyone else noticed this type of trouble with winchester brass or is it only me? It's sad that the lowest quality A-usa & xtreme cases are better than winchester. I wouldn't mention it but it's been on going. Half the time a case gets rejected its normally winchester , far and away more than any other brand or even as much as all other brands combined , give or take.
I haven't had any issue with winchester brass in 30-30 but I've only loaded about 100 total 30 wcf rounds - I've got about 500 win. Cases in 30-30 that are once fired and ready for loading so when I get to that project I guess I'll see if the issues are present on them too.
Hope everyone's doing well and keeping busy .
I thought I'd share some thoughts and experiences with winchester brass to see if others feel the same or if I've just been unlucky.
I don't typically separate pistol brass by headstamp but it seems most brass that doesn't pass inspection is winchester. I've had dozens of their cases that had rim thickness variation so great that the case wouldn't fit in the shell holder in 357 mag and now in 454 casull as well.
I've known about the 357 brass for a while now but it became very obvious earlier this year when I got some factory winchester ammo with a freedom arms revolver. Several rounds would not allow the cylinder to turn in the FA due to rim thickness - they chambered fine in a SRH and I know the FA is a tight chamber and close tolerance gun. Didn't think much of it.
I went to reload those cases and 2 out of 56 also wouldn't fit in the shell holder. 3 others had primer pockets too loose for my taste and all but 10 were below minimum trim length. So out of 56 I ended up with 10 useable cases. I understand I can load the short cases but I wont, I trim to a consistent length for proper flaring and crimping.
After the other issues I've had with it I just have zero confidence in their components. I don't see how the tolerances are that poor. If the dimensions are that far off it makes me concerned about materials and all other aspects of the product. I'm certainly not going to test it out with loads in excess of 50,000 psi.
Anyone else noticed this type of trouble with winchester brass or is it only me? It's sad that the lowest quality A-usa & xtreme cases are better than winchester. I wouldn't mention it but it's been on going. Half the time a case gets rejected its normally winchester , far and away more than any other brand or even as much as all other brands combined , give or take.
I haven't had any issue with winchester brass in 30-30 but I've only loaded about 100 total 30 wcf rounds - I've got about 500 win. Cases in 30-30 that are once fired and ready for loading so when I get to that project I guess I'll see if the issues are present on them too.