Woman lit on fire in France, only 277 cars burned Friday

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"A young French woman is in critical condition after the bus she was on was set alight by teenagers in the southern French port city of Marseille in the latest bout of suburban violence, police and rescue services said.
"A 26-year-old woman was seriously burned" and taken to hospital, the Marseille fire service said. "Three other people were slightly affected by smoke" and also hospitalised after the attack around 9:00 pm (1900 GMT), it added.

The woman's life was in danger after she suffered burns to nearly 60 percent of her body, a spokesperson for the hospital said.

Three adolescents pried open the bus doors and spilled a flammable liquid before striking a match, police said citing witnesses.

Marseille prosecutor Jacques Beaume called the attack "a real ambush".

"The bus was doused with gasoline and then set on fire," he said. "A passenger is between life and death (...) her condition is very serious."

Beaume called for more witnesses to come forward as of the "dozen passengers only three, four or five have been identified.


"We need their testimony," he said.

The attack happened in an area on the outskirts of France's second city which firefighters said did "not have a particular record of discourteousness or violence".

It came as France marked the first anniversary of the country's most serious riots in decades which passed without major incidents, with six policemen suffering minor injuries and two buses torched overnight Friday as well as scattered skirmishes with youths.

Four thousand extra police were drafted into Paris suburbs with high immigrant populations and 47 people were arrested, 34 of them in areas around the capital.

On Friday, masked youths in the northeastern Paris suburb of Blanc-Mesnil had attacked buses, forcing the passengers to get off before setting fire to the vehicles.

Police confronted youths in Clichy-sous-Bois, the poor northeastern Paris suburb from where riots spread last year to other areas of the country.

On Saturday, three policeman were injured as dozens of youths attacked security forces with stones and Molotov cocktails at a housing project in the Paris suburb of Grigny, police said.

Grigny's gritty housing project has been the recent target of youth unrest. Youngsters torched a bus last Sunday, causing no injuries, and police and other cars were stoned on Wednesday.

On Friday, a total of 277 vehicles were set on fire across the country, according to the Le Monde newspaper, but the authorities refused to confirm the figure.

That figure was three times higher than the number of vehicles torched on a normal day in France.

Police said police and youths had also clashed in the northeastern city of Reims and in Toulouse in the southwest.

Last year's riots were sparked by the deaths in Clichy-sous-Bois of Zyed Benna, 17, and Bouna Traore, 15, both from families of African descent.

They were electrocuted as they hid in an electricity sub-station while fleeing from police.

Night after night for three weeks, mainly north African youths clashed with police, torching more than 10,000 cars and firebombing 300 buildings in around 275 towns, until order was officially restored on November 17.

On Friday, more than 1,000 people made a silent march past the spot where the two teenagers died.

Police and mayors have warned that the conditions that led to the riots remain firmly in place in poor out-of-town neighbourhoods plagued by unemployment of 30 to 40 percent."
 
You might be right. I was thinking that monitoring the insurrection could be relevant to issues affecting the right to keep and bear arms and other civil rights. There are lots of articles like this, so it might be easy to ignore them and get bored. But a nation is on the brink of civil war, it's something worth paying attention to.
 
Lucky, good post thank you.

Things like the activities of Team Jihad in places like Western Europe are not important (or are not happening) to one or two people on THR, but the rest of us appreciate the info.

Love the use of wordage too - 'record of discourteousness or violence' . I hope that French authority reacts appropriately, the old fashioned way. Marseilles is beautiful, despite the 'guests' that live there.

JE223
 
JE223...

Your sig line comes from the 1st Conan movie. Those words were spoken by Conan's Father - part of the "Riddle of Steel" speech - to a young Conan just before their village was raided by Thulsa Doom's boys.
A great movie...

*And now, back to your regular programing.*

Biker
 
I think this is a very relevent civil rights subject. The way that France and Western Europe deals with this cultural influx could forshadow what will happen in our country a few years down the road.

I see two main factors that have lead to the explosive situation in France (not counting any possible instigation by extremist or terrorist groups):

1. Lack of assimilation. Successful immigration relies on immigants adapting to their host country. Failure to assimilate makes it more difficult move out of the lower class and creates tension and resentment between the immigrants and native people.

2. Racial discrimination. France right now is very similar to the US in the 1960's. Immigrants are almost entirely lower income and live in ghetto-like communities. The discrimination has not been government endorsed, but rather societally enforced (primarily due to the problem of point 1).

Both parties are at fault here, and both parties seem hell-bent to make things worse before they get better.
 
Fabfink
I think you are short a little. The converts of Islam may be as impresionable as those who are taught from childhood. The weak minded and empty souls in this country seem to be converting to Islam. Active recruiting seems to be ongoing at American universities. I'll shut up now. This is so easy to cause thread drift. My apologies.
 
You are right, there is a push by some factions of Islam to recruit youth to encite riots/protest/hatered. However, they would not have nearly the level of influence if the social situation in France was different.

Look at the civil rights movement: You had two main forces, the Nation of Islam/Black Panthers and the Peaceful/Martin Luther King movement. As bad as race relations were in the 1960's, there were efforts on both sides trying to heal the divisions. This is why the extremist/militant Nation of Islam and Black Panther groups were marginalized in favor of the civil rights movement pushed by MLK.

The more desperate and hopeless your situation the more likely you will turn to extremist for help.

And NO, I am not an appologist saying that we need to tolerate things like "honor killings"
 
Biker - done. Thanks for the info on my sig line. I knew that I heard that before somewhere, but the eighties were so long ago for me that I didn't remember!

Thefabulousfink, you brought up some great points ... in your opinion, who is more to fault with regard to the lack of assimilation? (The answer that follows will say volumes about the cause of our near-future in the US). IMO, the French have fallen victim to Ultra-Political Correctness and are now being taken advantage of by cultures from Medieval backwaters who laugh at such concepts.

When my grandparents and one of my parents came to the Canada from Germany, the first, first, first order of business was for everyone to learn to speak/read English, in preparation to move to the US. No one back then would consider not learning the native language. The US and France are the same place in many ways - I wonder what changed in this regard?
 
That figure was three times higher than the number of vehicles torched on a normal day in France.

Wow, that line just made the article for me.

I wonder what the U.S. "torched car" stats are? Probably most of them are insurance-fraud related though.

-MV
 
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