Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Worst Set of Myths I've Seen

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by bclark1, Apr 2, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. bclark1

    bclark1 member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2006
    Messages:
    351
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17491919/page/5/
    MSNBC are apparently small arms experts now. I think the article's an important deterrent to child predators, and I think they've taken on a noble campaign in that respect, but now I'm just distracted by their ridiculous take on guns. Didn't think they were as bad as CNN... guess I was wrong.

    The weapons are secondary - he didn't use them. The AR was not "ready to fire," the bolt was locked back. I don't know about laws down there for travelling with weapons, whether they need to be encased. But he did notify that he was carrying - it's a shame the weapons are just a footnote, seeing as he might not have been breaking firearms laws. Good ol' reporters to make it the central issue, though.

    Don't get me wrong, I am NOT defending this guy, or saying he should get a lighter sentence. I just think the news should stay focused on the issue, and should feel a duty to have some knowledge of what they write about. But I guess if that were the case, we'd live in a very different world.
     
  2. waynedm

    waynedm member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2007
    Messages:
    408
    A great deal of cops don't seem to know their heads from their . . .

    I was watching Cops the other night. They arrived at some house where there had been a complaint from the neighbors, they found the house empty of occupants but full of drugs and guns. They pan the camera over to two cops holding an SKS with a 50 round and one cop says "Here's an AK47 assault rifle," then he sets it down and picks up a revolver of some sort (I didn't see it well enough to be able to tell what it was). The officer says it's a .357 magnum, the other cop says 'that's the most powerful handgun in the world! You better take the clip out to make sure it's safe."
     
  3. Sistema1927

    Sistema1927 Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2004
    Messages:
    4,638
    Location:
    "Land of (dis)Enchantment"
    Do these folks have "gun boilerplate"?

    I don't know how many times I have heard of hollow point ammo being described as being able to penetrate body armor in these types of "news" articles. :confused:
     
  4. K3

    K3 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    1,508
    Location:
    Looking through the scope at a coyote
    Wouldn't an FMJ be able to penetrate a vest better than a HP?
     
  5. mbt2001

    mbt2001 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2005
    Messages:
    2,902
    Location:
    Texas
    Jeez....

    This whole thing just makes me want to puke all around.
     
  6. Zero_DgZ

    Zero_DgZ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2006
    Messages:
    1,286
    Yes.
     
  7. Special_K

    Special_K Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2006
    Messages:
    147
    Is it just me or is it everyone. . .Every time I hear one of these stories I just want to scream. They don't get the facts right, they dog us for NO reason, label things wrong like assault rifles and semi-automatic rifles and in general are just wrong!

    God. . .It's like dealing with an anti-gun person you get no where!!:mad: :barf:
     
  8. Bazooka Joe71

    Bazooka Joe71 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    2,803
    Location:
    Southern Indiana
    Definately

    Yeah that pedofile show on MSBC is rediculous. I want all of those guys to rot in jail, but it just seems like they need to focus more on what they have done wrong in the first place and leave the guns out of the equation...All they are doing is giving us good guys a bad name; its almost like they are trying to correlate pedofiles w/ gun owners.:confused:
     
  9. MilsurpShooter

    MilsurpShooter Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2005
    Messages:
    1,541
    Location:
    Under a rock somewhere
    In some states it's required law for the action be open while in transit. cop killer hollow points? yeah :barf:
     
  10. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,175
    Location:
    Moses Lake WA
    You just don't fully understand the media. He's a pedophile? Ho-hum...baddy. OMG ... He's got a GUN? He's evil, twisted and insane. He's going to kill us ALL, right through the TV!:barf:

    Pops
     
  11. ABTOMAT

    ABTOMAT Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2006
    Messages:
    892
    Location:
    USA
    A while back there was an episode from FL where a guy was stopped with a .22 rifle under a blanket on his back seat. Granted the guy deserved to be arresed for being drunk and breaking transportation laws (I'm assuming), but the police officer kept saying how "the gun's not registered."
     
  12. cheygriz

    cheygriz Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2002
    Messages:
    2,245
    Location:
    High up in the Rockies
    :barf: :barf: :barf: I know the feeling! ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN make me want to puke:barf: :barf: :barf:
     
  13. Zen21Tao

    Zen21Tao Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2004
    Messages:
    1,960
    Location:
    Gainesville, Fl
    I remember hunting trips with my uncle some 15 yerars ago. We would both have our shotguns in plain view in the front seat. He told me that as long as it wasn't loaded and the bolt was pulled to the rear it was prefectly legal here in Florida. I don't know if this law has changed since then or not.

    The one that got me from the story was calling "hollow point" bullets "cop killer" bullets. In reality ball ammunition stands a MUCH greater chance of penetrating heavy clothing than hollow points do, hence the success of "Powerball" ammo.
     
  14. Rattlesnake

    Rattlesnake Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2007
    Messages:
    86
    Location:
    Santa rosa, Albuquerque, Alamogordo
    I don't know what made me sick the most was the ****** "Spike" from Alabama. I could careless about what NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN says... I know where they stand. The **** that tarnishes the badge... :fire: I'd haul the rope myself.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 2, 2007
  15. scurtis_34471

    scurtis_34471 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2006
    Messages:
    1,014
    Location:
    Ocala, FL
    Here is the letter I sent to Dateline:

     
  16. goColt

    goColt Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    Messages:
    78
    Location:
    Indiana
    +1

    To many in the media, there is nothing worse than a gun owner. According to them, the reason for every criminal getting the way he/she is can be traced back to some psychologically traumatic experience in their past. But we gun owners are just a bunch of dangerous nut-jobs that need to be incarcerated, killed or de-fanged for the common-good.
     
  17. Neo-Luddite

    Neo-Luddite Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,998
    Location:
    Northwest IL--the other 'Downstate'
    The show is low rent and appeals to the worst in us all in my book. We watch it to see somebody get pounced on for being deviant. But the big draw is--jumping on someone. No surprise they play fast and loose with reality. The interesting part is--if the bizarros they catch would just keep their mouths shut and admit nothing--they would probably walk away un-convicted.

    The police officer is bad, but they've had doctors and teachers, etc. I've often thought what would they do if someone pulled a gun or other weapon--I would have a hard time feeling bad for those involved--they are inviting the lowest of the low into a set up for dramatic purposes.

    I get sucked into watching it too--but my wife (rightfully) gets mad and switches the channel.
     
  18. plexreticle

    plexreticle Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2006
    Messages:
    1,240
    Since when has the media been concerned with reality?
     
  19. tsalagikola

    tsalagikola Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2007
    Messages:
    18
    Location:
    Alabama
    The way it is in Alabama

    Here in Alabama the weapons do not have to be cased, but you can not have a drum or clip or Mag that can be attached to a gun that holds over 100 rounds at a time you can have as many as you want just it can't hold over 100 rounds at a time.

    And having guns on school 13A-11-74, no person shall knowingly with intent
    to do bodily harm carry or possess a deadly weapon on the premises of a public school.(d) Possession of a deadly weapon with the intent
    to do bodily harm on the premises of a public school in violation of subsection (c) of this section is a Class C felony.

    (e) Law enforcement officers are exempt from this section, and persons with pistol permits issued pursuant to Section 13A-11-75, are exempt from the
    provisions of subsection (c) of this section.

    And I have been told by some School Resource Officers (School Police Officers) if they need me they will get me one way or another and they said they are afraid one of these days they may need my help. I live about 5 minutes from 3 schools.


    The things he is charged with he will never be able to own a gun in Alabama again.

    His statement

    "luvs2eaturpeach: i wont sweetie, i cant id go 2 prison & thats like a death sentence. inmates hate cops they try 2 kill em in prison"


    Its not because he was a cop, I don't know how it is in other states but anyone that has hurt a child or a child molester will not live long in an Alabama prison they have to put them in another part so they will not get killed but some still gets killed because they was a child molester.
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2007
  20. Rattlesnake

    Rattlesnake Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2007
    Messages:
    86
    Location:
    Santa rosa, Albuquerque, Alamogordo
    It's because of both. Former LEO typically end up PCed (protective custody) resulting in them being sent to max security solitary confinement. Child molesters and general population do not go together well. So child molesters end up in thier own prison facilities or in their own pod/cell blocks.
     
  21. salthouse

    salthouse Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2004
    Messages:
    253
    Location:
    Southeastern, PA
    Don't think for a second that the press gets other stories right and just gets the gun stories wrong. They screw up EVERYTHING, we just happen to notice the stories that we know something about. And of course, 99% of the pop just accepts it all as facts. The dumbing down of America.
     
  22. thexrayboy

    thexrayboy Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    Messages:
    1,324
    Location:
    northern nevada
    You actually alotted valuable minutes of life that can not be replaced to
    a sideshow bob and his traveling media circus? The inaccuracies and misinformation touted as fact make 99+% of these alleged news shows a total waste of time. Facts are ignored if they are not sensationalistic or do not match the medias agenda. Falsehoods are proclaimed to be the word handed down from on high. All in all these self serving ratings obsessed
    entertainment masquerading as news shows are a waste of time, money and
    electricity. The good that may come from them occasionally is never enough
    to balance out the harm they do from agenda driven propagandizations.
     
  23. Zen21Tao

    Zen21Tao Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2004
    Messages:
    1,960
    Location:
    Gainesville, Fl
    (My 2 cents after reading the entire story)

    Let me just add that I am somewhat failure with Flagler Beach. I grew up about 45 minutes south and had a very good friend that was a Flagler Country Sheriffs Deputy. Most people, including LEOs, in this general area of Florida (Central Florida and North Central Florida) are very gun friendly. These officers’ mischaracterizations of firearms are quite surprising.

    Equally surprising is how the media tries to draw a connection between child molesters and people having firearms on them and in their vehicles. There are a great many Floridians that legally carry concealed weapon on them and have firearms in their vehicles. When I travel from my college campus to my hometown I usually take quite a few guns and a small cache of ammo with me in case I want to do some shooting or some hunting. This pervs “arsenal” shouldn’t highlighted as being especially important just because the person turned out to be a pedophile. There was absolutely no indication that he tried to use any of these weapons. This is just more fear mongering.

    In fact if it hadn’t been shown that this “cop” is in fact a pedophile, he would be one of the very few people that the Brady Campaign thinks should be allowed to be armed.
     
  24. fourtwentytexas

    fourtwentytexas Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2007
    Messages:
    2
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    +1

    Give me a break! :barf:

    LMFAO!
     
  25. DWARREN123

    DWARREN123 Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2006
    Messages:
    1,749
    Location:
    Between TN & KY
    Idiots don't even know which way is up.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page