Would you buy a Hi-Point?
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mgmorden
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As it currently stands? No.
They are ok-ish on reliability and accuracy, but I'd only look at the current models as a last resort which, given that I have better quality guns already, I don't need to resort to.
That said, if they came out with some newer models that looked better, or something a little more interesting (a .22LR would be nice) I would look at them.
They are ok-ish on reliability and accuracy, but I'd only look at the current models as a last resort which, given that I have better quality guns already, I don't need to resort to.
That said, if they came out with some newer models that looked better, or something a little more interesting (a .22LR would be nice) I would look at them.
christcorp
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I initially bought one because it was used, inexpensive, and I wanted to know first hand if they were any good. Instead of people who have never owned or shot one giving me opinions with no integrity to them whatsoever. Now that I have one, and realize that they are indeed a reliable and dependable weapon, I'm glad I did. I now have a weapon that I can use in places where I wouldn't normally want to use my kimber, springfield, and SigSauer. (Because they are quite expensive and I don't want to mess them up). I now have a reliable gun that I don't mind leaving in the garage, or in a spare room in the house, or to throw under the seat of my truck, or to put in a fishing tackle box, etc... There are plenty of uses for a hi-point. But if a person prefers to use their glock, hk, sig, colt, etc... in such conditions; then by all means there's no reason to buy a hi-point. But FWIW; I would never carry a hi-point. They are too big, heavy, and bulky for carrying. They shoot fine, just carry crappy.
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'nuff said
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I have been able to buy plenty of quality revolvers and autos for under $300. and they do fine in those "places" so I can find no good reason for relying on a gun that doesn't feel or shoot like any other I own. A cheap KT or Ruger fits the bill of a easy to stash pistol of last resort that I might carry in a tackle box and take up much less space than the clunky Hi Point.
christcorp
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If you don't want to buy a hi-point because it's clunky, bulky, heavy, etc... then that is a totally legitimate reason. I can totally respect that.
CoRoMo
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Not again, no. And if I could do it over again, I would have spent my $80 on something else.
Arkansas Paul
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If it's all I could afford - Yes
If I could afford anything else - No
You didn't ask about the carbine but - Yes. I have shot one of them quiet a bit and liked it. No problems and very accurate.
If I could afford anything else - No
You didn't ask about the carbine but - Yes. I have shot one of them quiet a bit and liked it. No problems and very accurate.
I was thinking about getting one to throw a cable lock on and put it in a 4 wheelers trunk. I hear all these people talk about "well for $300 I can get this that and the other thing." Well a Hi Point 9mm I can get for ah 145ish? and that's NEW, brand new, not used, not preowned, not refurbished, with a lifetime warranty.
You are right though they are ugly as sin
You are right though they are ugly as sin
I bought one before and while It worked well and shot well my tastes have evolved. If sometime down the road I want a gun to leave somewhere(tacklebox,truck,whatever) then I would buy another. I would and plan to purchase a carbine though.
I see 3 buyers for the hipoint(pistols). First someone who simply cant afford anything else at the time. Second someone who doesnt see value in firearms, a newcomer may not see a $500 firearm the way we do. And 3rd would be someone who simply wants to try one out and already owns firearms. I would say the first two people would never knock a hipoint but some of the people from group 3 have evolved tastes further than just seeing it as an ugly tool.
They are great entry level/budget firearms. They bring many new people to our sport every year and I am glad to have them around.
I see 3 buyers for the hipoint(pistols). First someone who simply cant afford anything else at the time. Second someone who doesnt see value in firearms, a newcomer may not see a $500 firearm the way we do. And 3rd would be someone who simply wants to try one out and already owns firearms. I would say the first two people would never knock a hipoint but some of the people from group 3 have evolved tastes further than just seeing it as an ugly tool.
They are great entry level/budget firearms. They bring many new people to our sport every year and I am glad to have them around.
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wgaynor
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Why do Hi-points bring out the worse in some people? I don't understand? You'd think we were discussing politics.
christcorp
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Dolph; the lifetime warranty is also another reason to be able to pick up a USED Hi-Point. You think $150 for a NEW 9mm is good. I picked up a USED C-9 9mm hi-point for $50. And just to make sure the previous owner didn't totally screw it up; after I shot a couple of boxes through it, I sent it off to hi-point for a complete check out and to address a couple of "MINOR" issues I noticed when shooting it. From the time I SENT it to them; to the day I RECEIVED it back; was a total of 10 days. And it's in perfect shape. The lifetime warranty makes buying a hi-point (For certain uses) a total no brainer. But if some people want to spend $300, $400, $500,..... $1000 for a gun "FOR THE SAME USE AND PURPOSE"; then let them be foolish with their money.
Mind you, I emphasized SAME USE AND PURPOSE. The Hi-Point is definitely not the perfect weapon for all uses. It's not my carry gun. (That's usually my CZ-82). It won't be my gun when I'm in the woods as a sidearm for protection. (That's usually a 357 magnum). It won't be my bedside, wake up in the middle of the night because I heard a noise gun. (That will almost always be one of my revolvers). But my C-9 will definitely find a place in my garage, in my truck, in my camper, in a spare room in a part of the house away from my "Normal guns", etc... It definitely has a use.
And as many have said, if I drop it in the lake, drop in on the asphalt, scratch the crap out of it, etc... Then that's ok. Better the Hi-Point than my $850 Sig P220, my $1200 kimber, or some of my other high end guns. And those high priced guns also have their use and purpose.
If a person doesn't want a hi-point because it's bulky; that's good. Or if it's too heavy; that too is a good reason. If it doesn't feel right for them; that too is a good reason. Even if they say that it's just too ugly; that's a legitimate reason. The only reason I find LAME from many people, is when they start talking out their butts about the performance of a hi-point. When they start talking about.... "Trust my life to it"; "Need higher quality"; "Something I can trust better"; and similar comments. To be honest, I don't think I've found 1 "REAL" hi-point owner or user that ever said the gun didn't perform reliably and dependably. Some may not like the gun for aesthetic reasons, but even they say it performs just fine. As good as the majority of all other guns. It seems to ONLY be those who have never owned one, never shot one, and only speaks from 2nd hand opinions (From others who have never owned or shot a hi-point); who thinks they are crap guns.
But at least in this thread, most of those who didn't want a hi-point, didn't say it was because of it's performance. There's a few that didn't give reasons, but I can respect those who choose against a hi-point because of the way it feels for them. At least they aren't talking crap about performance like those that don't know what they're talking about.
The Lone Haranguer
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There was no "maybe" choice in the poll. 
It would take an unusual set of circumstances or chain of events. If I fell upon hard times, needed a gun, and only had $150-$180 (this seems to be their average price, depending on configuration and caliber) to spend and no more, I would buy one. I've paid four to six times as much for guns that still malfunctioned and broke.
It would take an unusual set of circumstances or chain of events. If I fell upon hard times, needed a gun, and only had $150-$180 (this seems to be their average price, depending on configuration and caliber) to spend and no more, I would buy one. I've paid four to six times as much for guns that still malfunctioned and broke.chainsawmike
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Yes, I would and I did. These guns work! After all the "NO" comments, I think I'll go and buy another one!!
Deltaboy1984
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Yes and I have one in 45.
Lairvine
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I own a 1911 great .45! I wanted a 9mm got the C9 I have had no problems. 100 rounds out of the box hit where I wanted every time. My hubby has the 995 and loves it and is planning on getting the .45 in both the carbine(supposed to be released soon) and handgun. If you have never had or shot one you are ASSuming. But as they say opinions are like A__holes everyone has them!
Deanimator
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No, not under any circumstances.
Deanimator
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I'll never have one because I saw somebody TRY to shoot TWO of them at the club one night. I don't think he ever got three consecutive rounds without a FTF.
I'll also never have one because I know guns and how guns work. There have been virtually no successful pure blowback handguns in calibers above 9x18mm Makarov. That's for a reason. More powerful blowback pistols require slides weighing more than other entire pistols, and or recoil springs that would do the suspension of an M4 Sherman proud. Most have attempted to sidestep the slide weight issue by using an insanely heavy recoil spring. The German 9x19mm Dreyse did it by allowing the recoil spring to be decoupled from the slide when the first round was chambered. The French LeFrancais did it by having a tip-up barrel like a .25acp Beretta. Neither were commercial successes.
I've never needed a gun AND not had enough money to buy a decent one. You can almost always get a decent used S&W Model 10 or M&P for a comparable price, nevermind the periodic dumps of ex-police SIGs from Germany. I'd rather have a Makarov that works than a Hi Point that doesn't.
The Hi Point is a bad idea, badly executed.
No thanks.
christcorp
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Well the astra and tec-9 were also blowback guns. But all that aside, you are basing you opinion on theory and not on fact. FACT: Very, very, very few Hi-Point owners have had any issues with their pistols. Even in the 40sw and 45acp versions. FACT: some guns, not just hi-point, have issues with new guns; mainly new magazines; having feeding issues. Possible FACT: That "person" you saw try and shoot at the range that one time could have had new weapons and needed to break it in. "This is KNOWN and recommended, even by the manufacturer". FACT: the price of the hi-point is low, NOT because it's cheaply made, but because a blowback design by nature is much less expensive to build. Then, throw in no frills of features, and it's an inexpensive gun.
Bottom line; if you didn't like the feel, didn't like the looks, didn't like the weight, didn't like the color, etc... then those are all legitimate reasons to not want to buy one. But to say you wouldn't buy one because of it's performance and reliability is false and unfounded. The truth is: you'd be hard pressed to find hi-point owners who don't like their hi-point because of performance or reliability. DEFINITELY NOT MORE than any other manufacturer. Please; find those people. They don't exist. Not the people who actually OWN one or have SHOT them.
And FWIW: There isn't a gun on the planet that I can't afford. Some of my guns, I have definitely paid a lot for. But I also don't mind buying a used $50 Hi-Point. I am willing to mention it's limitations. But I am also willing to mention it's good points. And as a beat the crap out of it; put it in the truck; leave it in the garage; put it in the tackle box; keep it in a logistical location of your house as an additional tool; the gun is great for those purposes. It will fire dependably. Granted, I've only shot about 500 rounds through a 9mm hi-point. And except for an issue "Physical that I knew about and already arranged with hi-point's warranty department to take care of", the pistol has shot just fine. Recently, I shot through an old box of 9mm hp that was dirty, corroded, and old. Yet, the HP ate every round in the box. It also shot through an entire box of golden sabers without a glitch. Also, 5 boxes of WWB, 2 boxes federal, and a box of corbon power-ball and other defense ammo. All without issues. Right now, I have a magazine of power-ball and a magazine of hornady critical defense. The gun is usually in my garage or in my truck. And the last time I shot it, it was -10 degrees. The gun fired a full mag without issue. (It was too damn cold to keep shooting). Point is: All gun manufacturers have guns that have an issue from time to time. You can not find any significant reports of people having problems with hi-point pistols. And definitely can't find any noticeable difference in complaints with hi-point compared to any other manufacturer. Yet, it is easy to find a LOT of satisfied owners of hi-point.
Bottom line; if you didn't like the feel, didn't like the looks, didn't like the weight, didn't like the color, etc... then those are all legitimate reasons to not want to buy one. But to say you wouldn't buy one because of it's performance and reliability is false and unfounded. The truth is: you'd be hard pressed to find hi-point owners who don't like their hi-point because of performance or reliability. DEFINITELY NOT MORE than any other manufacturer. Please; find those people. They don't exist. Not the people who actually OWN one or have SHOT them.
And FWIW: There isn't a gun on the planet that I can't afford. Some of my guns, I have definitely paid a lot for. But I also don't mind buying a used $50 Hi-Point. I am willing to mention it's limitations. But I am also willing to mention it's good points. And as a beat the crap out of it; put it in the truck; leave it in the garage; put it in the tackle box; keep it in a logistical location of your house as an additional tool; the gun is great for those purposes. It will fire dependably. Granted, I've only shot about 500 rounds through a 9mm hi-point. And except for an issue "Physical that I knew about and already arranged with hi-point's warranty department to take care of", the pistol has shot just fine. Recently, I shot through an old box of 9mm hp that was dirty, corroded, and old. Yet, the HP ate every round in the box. It also shot through an entire box of golden sabers without a glitch. Also, 5 boxes of WWB, 2 boxes federal, and a box of corbon power-ball and other defense ammo. All without issues. Right now, I have a magazine of power-ball and a magazine of hornady critical defense. The gun is usually in my garage or in my truck. And the last time I shot it, it was -10 degrees. The gun fired a full mag without issue. (It was too damn cold to keep shooting). Point is: All gun manufacturers have guns that have an issue from time to time. You can not find any significant reports of people having problems with hi-point pistols. And definitely can't find any noticeable difference in complaints with hi-point compared to any other manufacturer. Yet, it is easy to find a LOT of satisfied owners of hi-point.
bflobill_69
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I would encourage anyone thinking of buying a Hi Point to continue to save, and buy something that will stand the test of time... That said, if you need a firearm FAST and all you can afford is a Hi Point... well then thats a no-brainer!
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