Would you ever vote Democrat?

[rbernie]

If you don't protect society's weakest, capitalism becomes far less palatable to those at the bottom. You need social welfare (and SS etc.) to hold crime down and keep those individuals involved in the economy.

I always thought that Capitalism provided three basic choices - work, starve, or get shot trying to rob a Gas-n-Grab. <shrug> Silly me.

What do you consider the crossover point in a welfare program between holding down crime via bread-n-circuses and simply encouraging otherwise-productive folk to sit around and watch soap operas instead of producing?

 

[Mr. James]

That's why the New Deal dealt a serious blow to Bolshevik recruitment of the era.

Yeah, except for all the Bolsheviks within FDR's administration.



Y'know, anyone who starts prattling on about what "the masses" wanted has already lost the argument.

 

[JP1954]

Wooderson.....I do not appreciate being FALSELY accused of purposely misreporting what you said. You should read what you have posted before you make baseless accusations. To PROVE your accusation is baseless, the following are posts that YOU posted. The only editing I have done is to show some words of your posts in bold type. I have also included posts of mine which are underlined.

WOODERSON

This is not the party of JFK. This is the party of Teddy K. and company

. This implies a great deal of misunderstanding about JFK, Ted Kennedy and the Democratic Party as a whole. From Reconstruction onward, the Democrats have been an uneasy coalition - progressives and reactionaries, civil rights and Dixiecrats, today unions and free-traders. When he was President, they were never "the party of JFK."
I mean, honestly, you realize that the Democrats were electing folks like Ralph Yarborough and Fred Harris in Oklahoma and Texas 35 years ago? Both men make Ted Kennedy look like a weak-willed neo-con schoolgirl. Whereas the comparatively mild Kennedy (who was in the solid middle of the non-southern Party in JFK's time) is considered a 'radical' in today's Congressional ranks.

The Democrats are undoubtedly still the party of John Kennedy - probably moreso now than in the past, as it has shed the racist Dixiecrats who opposed and feared him, moved right fiscally and continues to be hawkish but restrained in terms of the military budget and usage.

JP

The Democrats are undoubtedly still the party of John Kennedy .............moved right fiscally.

You should warn people before you associate Democrats with fiscal conservatism. If someone is eating when they read it they may likely choke! Unless you consider raising taxes fiscal conservatism, I cannot possibly imagine what you are talking about. Fiscal conservatism in politics means minimizing government spending.
It means smaller government. This is not what the Democratic party represents...

WOODERSON

You should warn people before you associate Democrats with fiscal conservatism.

Um, did you read what I wrote? I never said they were, as a party, 'fiscal conservatives' - I said they had, as a party, moved 'right.'

Note the difference.

JP

Um, did you read what I wrote? I never said they were, as a party, 'fiscal conservatives' - I said they had, as a party, moved 'right.'

Note the difference

I did read what you wrote. That is why I QUOTED YOU.

WOODERSON

I did read what you wrote. That is why I QUOTED YOU.

So you purposely mis-reported what I said? You claimed I had called the Democrats "fiscal conservatives" when what I said was "they moved right."

Again, not a difficult thought process

JP

So you purposely mis-reported what I said? You claimed I had called the Democrats "fiscal conservatives" when what I said was "they moved right."

Again, not a difficult thought process

You are really something else......I would and did give the balance of your last "rebuttal" a pass because your points are not worth my time but I couldn't let you slide on your accusation." Moved right fiscally" is what you said and is what I quoted......Let the readers decide this one.

 

[mike101]

In order to elect a pro-gun candidate, about half of us are going to have to cross the aisle. I think the best we can hope for is a pro 2A moderate, from whichever party.