Wow...talk about a sad story..

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Nice rifle ...













... NOT!

What the heck is that bolt handle? Looks like the shifter handle from a 1947 Nash.
 
Yea, more like Spackle I think.

Buyer- beware shouldn't cover flagrant lies, and sneakily-concealed defects. Take the cheat to court, and sue. If that was a car, and it said, "Brand new transmission", when the transmission was an old piece of junk with rust on it and no fluid because 2 holes were drilled through it, then no-one would expect the buyer to suck it up.

"Do not always rely on the description to be accurate. I’m not trying to blast the seller of this gun all his other feedback is positive, I don’t know what happened here, but please take note and learn from my mistake. If you have any questions or would like any other pictures please email me. Thank You for your time and happy bidding!"

I just finished 3 months shopping for a used car, and this guy needs to Suck It Up and damned well blast that seller, or he doesn't understand what 'feedback' means. He should simply go to a gunsmith, have the gunsmith write up an inspection explaining the rifle is unsafe, ask for his money back, and explain that lawyers are coming, along with possible charges, if money doesn't trade hands soon. In Canada people have gotten $7-9000 for emotional distress from horribly bad cars, misrepresented as spanking new. In the US it would probably be closer to $70-90,000!

Just so frustrating the sap is apologizing for the ass who ripped him off, and afraid to slander the crook's 'good name'.
 
Never buy used unless the seller is willing to go with you
to the range and let you test fire it.
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I have only ever bought myself one new firearm. All the rest have been used from over the internet. In 9 years of buying used firearms over the internet, I have gotten one bad one. It was a "Pre-ban" AR-15, which, based on the serial number, might have missed the cut off date by a couple of months. To the dealer's credit, he switched the lower reciever for me with one of a company that went out of business before the ban. No problem.

Yes there are people out there that are trying to just take you for a ride, but the majority, in my experience are honest enough that receving what you thought you were getting is more the norm than the exception.
 
On a random bout of curiosity I went and checked the feedback of both the buyer and the seller. It was odd because they both had A+ ratings and the only negative feedback was from each other.

Feedback for the seller
D: JUNK!None of the listed work was done.It will not chamber a round!The bolt is so bad you have to force it closed.Some of the rifling was damaged from crowning.After contacting him I was hung up on!
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Feedback for the buyer
Lies, Feedback Threats, Bullies, and Late Payment... Block this bidder more trouble than he is worth.
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If the pictures on the buyer's auction are unmodified, I think he is the more believable. It is odd, however, that the seller has such a high rating and would then do something like this out of the blue. Even making claims false about late payment (if the buyer is to be believed).
 
A couple of things:

1.I think the buyer is much more believable since he has physical prrof of his claims. The seller's pictures do not show the araes in question, so they are of no use in his defense.

2. I don't think this is caveat emptor at all if the buyers version is the complete truth. When the seller outright lies about what he is selling, the faults of the rifle and resultant trouble can hardly be put at the feet of buyer.

The case in this dispute seems to be a clear case of fraud. The buyer represents his item as something it isnot. Odds are he knew this and knew the rifle was a POS. He still presented it as a new.If someone tells you a rifle will fire and you buy and find out it doesn't even chamber a round, the guy who sold it clearly lied.
 
Sometimes used guns are good. Go to www.benchrest.com, and look for Shooter's Corner under the "complete rifles" section. The guy who runs it is named Bob White, and what he sells you will be exactly like he describes it.

Or better.

These are mostly varmint/competition rifles, but he probably occasionally gets a deer rifle in...
 
Wow. That is bad!
I'm pretty lucky. I bought a S&W 4566 .45 out of CDNN without seeing or getting to test fire it. And when it came in, it was in very good shape.
Also Kramer Krazy bought me a S&W 686-6 .357 off Gun Broker for our anniversary. (I know, aaawww how romantic! hee hee:neener:)
When it arrived, it looked very close to brand new. So I guess we have been very fortunate.
I hope the buyer gets some sort of satisfaction out of this. That was just plain wrong!:mad:
 
One of the issues peripheral to this story is that GunBroker has a documented history of allowing sellers to rip people off, and of actively punishing buyers (including account deactivation and account blacklisting) if they try to pursue claims against fraudulant sellers. It's happened to me, and it's happened to lots of folks that I know. I can only conclude it to be indicative of a systemic decision by GunBroker's management to value commission profits over the integrity of the auction process. I have completed at least fifty (50) transactions via AuctionArms with nary a problem, and I vastly prefer them to the folks at GunBroker.

I do not do business through GunBroker - period.
 
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