yer thawts on the .270win
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rkh
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check out the 6.8 SPC.
It's another .270, but it also works in certain properly chambered ARs.
It's another .270, but it also works in certain properly chambered ARs.
trueblue1776
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.270 is an excellent rifle round, just remember she is meant for a long barrel, otherwise you are wasting a lot of powder.
R.W.Dale
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About the only thing that you could say bad about the 270 win is it really doesn't do anything you couldn't do better with the original case (30-06). In a blind test of two Identical but diffrently chambered rifles 270 and 30-06 I doubt anyone could reliably tell the difference by recoil alone.
rkh
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Agreed. The SPC is less powerful, but for hogs and deer I think it's adequate. If the OP is an AR enthusiast, the caliber would doubly interesting due its applications in semiautos.
Just a thought.
fordman650
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Love my 270 ok and my 06 been using an 06 up until i went to a pawn shop gun sale and had to have this rem 760 pump took it out and at 100 yards with factory ammo 5 shots in a three inch group ,my brrother got his first elk with a 270
good luck
Larry
good luck
Larry
The only thing wrong with a .270 Winchester is....
It's not a .280 Remington!
Seriously, a .270 Win. will handle any deer or hogs out there. I know several people here in Idaho and one in Colorado, who kill bull elk every year with theirs.
Have fun.
L.W.
It's not a .280 Remington!
Seriously, a .270 Win. will handle any deer or hogs out there. I know several people here in Idaho and one in Colorado, who kill bull elk every year with theirs.
Have fun.
L.W.
Gordon
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Chet Brown used to push this caliber in his mountain rifles he built in the 70's because you don't lose much in a 22" barrel , or even a bit shorter. All though the .270 caliber is not a ballistic 'sweet spot' like 7mm, or 6.5mm (or .30!!!) it is plenty good with 120-140 grain bullets. The internal case ballistics for the .270 are exceptional, for still unknown reasons, and the ability to achieve 3100fps with 130 grain bullets within normal pressures and less than 60 grain of powder is unmatched by anything else to come down the pike; ie .284Winchester, .270SSM ect.
The terminal effects of a .270 130 grain bullet is sufficient for game to 400 pounds and the 150 grains take it to 600 pounds with only a slight trajectory loss. All with 20-30% less recoil than .30 class cartridges, whats not to like?
I must admit I use alot of other cartridges for big game, but for longer shots at medium(caribou) and smaller deer the .270 with a good bullet is about perfect! I only have 2 .270 guns: a 1953 Winchester model 70 with a 4x Unertl and a Brown Precision High Country with a model 70 classic action that weighs a pound and a half less with a 2.5-8x36 Leupold than the earlier 70 does. My favorite load is -by far- a Nosler 130 grain Partition on top of 54.5 grains of H414 , which gives 3130 fps in the old model 70's 24" barrel with 1.5moa and 3070fps in the Brown Precision's 22" barrel with 3/4MOA accuracy. Nothing has ever lived long after being hit with that load including an antelope at 280 yards and a mountain goat at 400+ yards. A perfect 2 gun battery for hunting big game is a .270 and a .375 H&H IMHO.
The terminal effects of a .270 130 grain bullet is sufficient for game to 400 pounds and the 150 grains take it to 600 pounds with only a slight trajectory loss. All with 20-30% less recoil than .30 class cartridges, whats not to like?
I must admit I use alot of other cartridges for big game, but for longer shots at medium(caribou) and smaller deer the .270 with a good bullet is about perfect! I only have 2 .270 guns: a 1953 Winchester model 70 with a 4x Unertl and a Brown Precision High Country with a model 70 classic action that weighs a pound and a half less with a 2.5-8x36 Leupold than the earlier 70 does. My favorite load is -by far- a Nosler 130 grain Partition on top of 54.5 grains of H414 , which gives 3130 fps in the old model 70's 24" barrel with 1.5moa and 3070fps in the Brown Precision's 22" barrel with 3/4MOA accuracy. Nothing has ever lived long after being hit with that load including an antelope at 280 yards and a mountain goat at 400+ yards. A perfect 2 gun battery for hunting big game is a .270 and a .375 H&H IMHO.
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I've deer hunted exclusively with a .270 for 10+ years and never had a problem. My rifle has dropped many a deer and never had one run off more than 15 or so yards. No misses, no injuries that didn't immediately show results. Prolly why I never changed anything about my rig seeing as how it would be really complicated to make an improvement. Not a lot to improve.
270Win
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.270 is a fantastic platform, and would be great for long-range target shooting as well as everything else mentioned already, if only better bullets were made for it. A good high-BC high-weight bullet would just hit the spot...
A .270 was my first rifle, and still my favorite.
A .270 was my first rifle, and still my favorite.
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It's a long lived classic for good reason.
You can't go to any walmart of hunting supply store and buy 6.8 ammo. You can get 270 Win anywhere.
You can't go to any walmart of hunting supply store and buy 6.8 ammo. You can get 270 Win anywhere.
Zeke Menuar
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I love my 270. Lightweight, accurate and very easy to handload. I even found some Matchkings for it for punching paper.
Recoil is non-existant.
Enough for anything I'm likely to run into here in Monsoon Central
ZM
Recoil is non-existant.
Enough for anything I'm likely to run into here in Monsoon Central
ZM
db_tanker
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My 270 was a very nice addition to my battery of rifles.
Easy to reload for as well...my only complaint is that there aren't many heavy bullets like there used to be for the caliber.
Ceiling is 160 grains but I have looked in the old manuals and seen 180's.
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Easy to reload for as well...my only complaint is that there aren't many heavy bullets like there used to be for the caliber.
Ceiling is 160 grains but I have looked in the old manuals and seen 180's.
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270 n such
I pretty much know what the 270 is capable of I am just at a time where it may be practical for me to purchase a bolt action in a flat shooting round that can be bought at any gunshop or Walmart/Big 5 type store. I just ran into a few nice .270's and wanted some input from others. I now use a Marlin 35rem and also have a G2 in 358JDJ. In CA they most likely will pass a " liberal tree huggin" bill to make it illegal to use lead ammo for hunting big game, ya know incase one of the 3 condors that exsist may land and eat a dead pig or deer shot with lead ammo and die. NO 35rem Barns X and SSK warns of usung them in the Contender/G2 due to pressure problems. So I own 2 guns that may be usless to me for hunting this state(dont say just move...long story) and was thing of something like a 7mm mag, .270, 30-06, 308 or something else where ammo is easy to find and cheap. I know in those cal. there is solid copper boolits available. So... the idea thats been in my head this week is get rid of the TC G2 and replace with a bolt gun. Kinda a bummer as I have some $ put into the G2 but my rule is if a gun is gonna be in my safe it must earn a place ans at this point that is the one that would not be used, at least not in the near future.
I pretty much know what the 270 is capable of I am just at a time where it may be practical for me to purchase a bolt action in a flat shooting round that can be bought at any gunshop or Walmart/Big 5 type store. I just ran into a few nice .270's and wanted some input from others. I now use a Marlin 35rem and also have a G2 in 358JDJ. In CA they most likely will pass a " liberal tree huggin" bill to make it illegal to use lead ammo for hunting big game, ya know incase one of the 3 condors that exsist may land and eat a dead pig or deer shot with lead ammo and die. NO 35rem Barns X and SSK warns of usung them in the Contender/G2 due to pressure problems. So I own 2 guns that may be usless to me for hunting this state(dont say just move...long story) and was thing of something like a 7mm mag, .270, 30-06, 308 or something else where ammo is easy to find and cheap. I know in those cal. there is solid copper boolits available. So... the idea thats been in my head this week is get rid of the TC G2 and replace with a bolt gun. Kinda a bummer as I have some $ put into the G2 but my rule is if a gun is gonna be in my safe it must earn a place ans at this point that is the one that would not be used, at least not in the near future.
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I've been up and down the caliber road myself the past few years; tried several platforms for .30-06, .30-30, and .270; I don't like the recoil of .30-06 (2 bolt action rifles and 1 slide action rifle); I like the practicality and recoil of .30-30 in Marlin lever guns...but I wanted some more snot for my primary hunting rifle; tried .270 in a slide action which turned out to be a troublesome plaform...liked the recoil and accuracy enough to get a bolt action; liked the combo of .270 and Winchester M70 Black Shadow that I have had a thumbhole stock fitted and a very good quality Sightron scope mounted...
back to the caliber...lighter loads good for larger varmints (coyotes, foxes, other scroungers); medium loads good for whitetail deer and smaller bears; heavy loads, expecially those that are bonded, partitioned, or solid copper, are good for larger deer, bear, and even elk; the recoil with factory 150's is very managable...not nearly as bad as .30-06...not nearly as light as .243;
as a compromise between the 'brushbuster' .30-30 round nose and the higher velocity of the .270, I found Federal Power-Shok 150 gr round nose (similar profile to a 150 gr .30-30 round nose, but with more snot); I hope to make this my deer/bear load for this year while I save the brass and reload a good ballistic tip load for next year
back to the caliber...lighter loads good for larger varmints (coyotes, foxes, other scroungers); medium loads good for whitetail deer and smaller bears; heavy loads, expecially those that are bonded, partitioned, or solid copper, are good for larger deer, bear, and even elk; the recoil with factory 150's is very managable...not nearly as bad as .30-06...not nearly as light as .243;
as a compromise between the 'brushbuster' .30-30 round nose and the higher velocity of the .270, I found Federal Power-Shok 150 gr round nose (similar profile to a 150 gr .30-30 round nose, but with more snot); I hope to make this my deer/bear load for this year while I save the brass and reload a good ballistic tip load for next year
xring44
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Ya gotta love the .270 Winchester, I have a couple, have owned many, excelent shooters, kill well, and the recoil is modest, here's a favorite built on a pre 64 Model 70 Winchester action, Lilja barrel,,,,,,exhibition grade claro walnut........and it shoots as good as it looks.
TCB in TN
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Hunted with a Ruger 77 .270 for many years. It was a very accurate gun, and very versitle one as well. We hunted where you might get a 25 yard shot in the brush or a 400 yard shot hill top to hill top. I hunted white tail with 130 grain Winchester Silver Tips and had excellent success. My Father-in-Law and BiL both had Rem 700s in 270 and used the same loads. No complaints at all. Used them to hunt hogs and coyotes as well. They did the job just fine. The only reason I got rid of it was that I have my Grandpa's old 1903 and will never get rid of it, settled on the 30-06 so that I only have fewer caliburs and can share ammo between guns.
atblis
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My Thoughts
It works
There's really no discussion/argument about it.
There's no such thing as a ballistic sweet spot, it only depends on what manufacturers happen to make in that caliber (basically what's become popular). This is influenced by what twist rates are common, the intended use of the cartridge, etc. etc.
For pigs, I'd probably get a 30-06 just to have some heavier bullets (180 gr).
However, if you've found a gun you like at a good price in 270 Win, absolutely no reason not to get it. It'll work.
130-150 gr for Bambi (pick one)
Maybe 150gr Nosler Partitions for Porky
My Tikka likes the 135gr Sierra Match Kings for target stuff.
The nice things about 270, and 30-06, is that you don't need premium high dollar bullets for them to work great on deer. Corelokts, Silver Tips, etc. work great.
It works
There's really no discussion/argument about it.
There's no such thing as a ballistic sweet spot, it only depends on what manufacturers happen to make in that caliber (basically what's become popular). This is influenced by what twist rates are common, the intended use of the cartridge, etc. etc.
For pigs, I'd probably get a 30-06 just to have some heavier bullets (180 gr).
However, if you've found a gun you like at a good price in 270 Win, absolutely no reason not to get it. It'll work.
130-150 gr for Bambi (pick one)
Maybe 150gr Nosler Partitions for Porky
My Tikka likes the 135gr Sierra Match Kings for target stuff.
The nice things about 270, and 30-06, is that you don't need premium high dollar bullets for them to work great on deer. Corelokts, Silver Tips, etc. work great.
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I have killed a dozen elk with a 270 and I have no idea how many mule deer. It is a great all around performer. If you listen to a lot of "experts" who have never even seen an elk, they will tell you you need at least a 33 cal magnum.
That is Horsecrap. I seen truckloads of deer elk and antelope killed with 270s.
It is a great all around round.
That is Horsecrap. I seen truckloads of deer elk and antelope killed with 270s.
It is a great all around round.
salthouse
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The .270 is a terrific round IMO. Mine is very accurate and I have complete confidence in it. I have an SHR 970 with a .270 and a .280 barrel, I interchange them on a regular basis I can shoot up to 175gr with the .280 so I carried it last year in Moose season.
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So my curiosity has been piqued. Why isn't the .270 a target round? Until the advent of the PPC and BR cartridges I'd never gotten a straight answer about what case design features make one cartridge a target worthy platform or not.
I do feel compelled to point out that the "lower recoil" comments are striking me as over stated. Just looking at the math, the 150 grain in both the 30-06 and the .270, the .270 has a higher velocity than the 30-06 which would mean recoil would be HIGHER in the .270 than the 30-06. Comparing a 130 grain load to a 180 grain load is likely where the majority of these comments originate. Even then, the kinetic energy figures would put them pretty doggone close. As sad as it is to say, the nastiest recoiling gun I've ever fired was a Ruger 77 in .270 with one of those horrible Zytel stocks. There is something about that stocks geometry that disagrees with my frame which generally leaves me hurting. In comparison, shooting 150 grain 30-06 ammo through a steel butt plated 1905 Springfield is nowhere near as uncomfortable.
I do feel compelled to point out that the "lower recoil" comments are striking me as over stated. Just looking at the math, the 150 grain in both the 30-06 and the .270, the .270 has a higher velocity than the 30-06 which would mean recoil would be HIGHER in the .270 than the 30-06. Comparing a 130 grain load to a 180 grain load is likely where the majority of these comments originate. Even then, the kinetic energy figures would put them pretty doggone close. As sad as it is to say, the nastiest recoiling gun I've ever fired was a Ruger 77 in .270 with one of those horrible Zytel stocks. There is something about that stocks geometry that disagrees with my frame which generally leaves me hurting. In comparison, shooting 150 grain 30-06 ammo through a steel butt plated 1905 Springfield is nowhere near as uncomfortable.
Oohrah
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Don't own one. Would I buy one, you bet. Don't think a matter
of performance, as it is accuracy. Anything you hunt won't know
the difference between it and an 06 with proper bullets put into
a terminal place!
of performance, as it is accuracy. Anything you hunt won't know
the difference between it and an 06 with proper bullets put into
a terminal place!
R.W.Dale
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That makes two of us then, even my currenty 22-250 M77 with the boat paddle stock has a small bite. My old 270 like you mention was terrible
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