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Your View on President Bush

Discussion in 'Legal' started by GotGlock, Jun 29, 2007.

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What do you think of President Bush?

  1. Great President, Would vote for again.

    92 vote(s)
    17.5%
  2. Great President, No freaking way.

    76 vote(s)
    14.5%
  3. Horrible President, Thank god its over.

    357 vote(s)
    68.0%
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  1. tinygnat219

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    The ONLY reason I voted for him in '04 was that he had a clue, granted not much of one, regarding Islamic fundamentalism/terrorism (it's one and the same). He understands that they want to crush western society and convert everyone to Islam by the sword.

    The Democrats simply don't get it. They don't get it at all. They're entire mantra has been "anti-Bush" and only "anti-Bush". We don't see any spine. All we see is monthlong debates about non-binding resolutions that don't mean or do a thing. Reid has lost every vote that he's tried to bring up on Bush. It's also not like the Bush camp is exactly smart at politics either, so the Democrats to me are a dead, spineless camp with the exception of some of the "Blue Doggies", but even they are turning into a disappointment. Jim Webb foremost among them.
     
  2. Erebus

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    And how many terror attacks did Clinton stop? Oh yea that's right when Clinton was offered Osama on a platter he turned them down more than once knowing full well he was already responsible for terror attacks in the US and on it's interests over seas. I don't think that I want to return to a pre-9/11 mentality. I lost friends that day. I don't miss Clinton at all.
     
  3. aspade

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    You had me at 'Horrible President', but 'Thank God it's over? When it's over in all likelyhood the gungrabbing urban pervert party will be running things again because Jorge splintered our party and I'm not very thankful for that.
     
  4. budney

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    As many as Bush: none.

    --Len.
     
  5. jselvy

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    When will we wake up and realize that Weasel R and Weasel D are identical twins?

    Jefferson
     
  6. Erebus

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    Ok how many attacks occured under Clinton v Bush?
     
  7. Mazeman

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    Although he's done plenty wrong, there are two things he did that are hard to criticize:

    1) Lowered taxes, thereby stimulating the economy and resulting in record tax REVENUES. (And I don't want to hear the BS about him favoring the rich- who actually now pay a greater percent of the total tax burden than under Clinton).

    2) Excellent Supreme Court picks. We may be thanking him if Parker is granted cert.

    These two items are nothing to sneeze at.
     
  8. jkingrph

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    I really did not like the choices. I voted for him twice for President and for gov of Texas. In all cases he was the better choice at the time.

    My problem is that he comes across as to condesending. He has the attitude that the rest of us are incapable of thought and know nothing.

    That said, would I vote for him again if I could? Most likely not, but if he were the only choice against hillary or obama, yes!
     
  9. budney

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    Depends whether you count flight 800, etc. But the obvious reply to that is: how many Americans died in terrorist attacks under Clinton v Bush?

    The point is that both have proven to be completely useless--but Bush is the bigger spender, his foreign policy has been a bigger disaster, his attacks on our liberties have been more severe... Clinton, who is absolute pure evil, turns out, astonishingly, to be the lesser evil.

    --Len
     
  10. RealGun

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    That's over the top, especially on a gun forum. We've done okay actually, thanks to the GOP.
     
  11. Erebus

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    Depends on your point of view. I disagree with you. The only reason that Clinton couldn't assault our civil rights as much as Bush has is that he didn't have a compliant congress. Inability to implement his agenda doesn't mean he was a better president. I shudder to think where we would be if he had a Dem controlled congress on his side.
     
  12. Erebus

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    Do you think, if it was shot down at all, that it was shot down on purpose?
     
  13. budney

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    I agree with you completely. Clinton would have loved to set up socialized medicine, take all our guns, and declare himself emperor. The only thing that stopped him is fear that congress would impeach him and citizens would start rioting in the streets. In fact, I'm sure Clinton thinks to himself, "Dayum--that George W gets all the breaks!" If he'd had a 9/11 to work with, the 2A might be history by now.

    --Len.
     
  14. harbinger_j

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    He is doing poorly now (amnesty)
    But if you look at all of his presidency I think it is short sighted to call him horrible.
    With out the judges and tax cuts our country would be light years closer to being in the crapper.
    Look at your alternatives....
    If we get screwed with one of the Democrats running now you'll all be crying for W back.
     
  15. Baba Louie

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    While it's awfully popular to voice displeasure at any administration, depending upon which side of the fence one stands, it gives one pause to wonder how this (or any) poll would look were we answering the same questions about President Gore or President Kerry. ;)

    The Republican Party as a whole, those who came charging in to office clamoring for change after the 94 elections, with their Contract For America, proved to be as inept as those they replaced with perhaps one notable exception... Gun Owners and those firearms we so seem to enjoy, were not AS villified as in earlier administrations. The Gov'ts actions in Sept/Oct of 01, both parties were commendable notwithstanding the exception of the immediately offered, unread and enacted PATRIOT ACT (how long DOES it take to craft that much amended law anyway? Overnight?).

    But on the whole, the American people (and perhaps the rest of the world) have been stuck between the proverbial Rock / Hard Place, once again. Or so it would seem. We certainly do not appear to have the "legs" to sustain a long term "jihad" if it interferes with our watching American Idol.

    C'est la Vie. For all the good we're doing worldwide in the PR department, we might as well be offering amnesty to undocumented... nevermind.

    It's so fashionable (and easy) to put down the United States of America while seated at the keyboard, when we provide ample ammunition for that type of conversation, in lieu of actively helping produce worthwhile change... many of whom are doing just that, but remain un-noticed and un-sung.

    Is it true that we get the type of government we deserve? I wonder.
     
  16. Prince Yamato

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    I like the guy. He's a poor public speaker, but I always remind myself that Moses spoke with a stutter.
     
  17. pcosmar

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    I will believe he is gone after the Election, If we get there. I stillexpect an end run around it.
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    And tripled the cost of fuel, negating any gain to the middle or poor classes.
    More businesses moving off shore, good jobs lost. The SPP.
    The plans for world domination are progressing.
     
  18. cbsbyte

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    You can thank Bush for killing the Republican party's chance of holding at least one branch of the Government in 2008. Expect at least four years of Hilllary. Thanks Bush.
     
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  19. pcosmar

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    cbsbyte, It is not dead yet (badly wounded) weak.
    In the words of Yoda, "There is another".
     
  20. Smokewagon45

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    Voted for him twice. Thought he did great except the last couple of years. Given the current group of idiots running for president both Democrat and republican, I'd have to vote for him again if he could run.:uhoh:
     
  21. GTSteve03

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    Option #3 for me.

    Voted for him in '00 cause I was young, naive, and it was my first Presidential election I could vote in.

    Realized what a big mistake it was shortly thereafter, voted third-party in '04 and will be voting for Ron Paul in '08.

    I refuse to vote for anyone who refuses to follow the Constitution. :fire:
     
  22. ozwyn

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    the victory of bush in '04 was letting the Democrats know that putting upt he worst snake oil selling scumbag up as a candidate will not win an election.

    I mean, how can the political parties think they are giving us anything even remotely resembling credible leaders?

    the current crop isn't looking too hot either. I think we may have to mulch what we got a hope a better field grows from it.
     
  23. Master Blaster

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    Sound like a good poll for DU

    This has what to do with guns???

    PS

    Scrape the Kerry Edwards Bumper sticker off of your SUV now, your gonna need that spot for the Hillary Obama sticker real soon.
     
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  24. grampster

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    Not enough categories to vote reasonably. President Bush has accomplished several things. Lowered taxes which is helping the economy. SCOTUS appointments which will tend to drag it back toward the center from the left. He, or those around him, understand that apostate Islamic Fundamentalism has been slowly resurging over the last couple of decades and that represents a major problem for Western civilization, especially since the world economy runs on oil. Between Communists like Chavez, a 3rd world morass like Mexico and the middle east, the worlds energy needs happen to originate from those places. Not good. The conduct of the WoT (badly named) has not been handled very well, imho. We need to pull back, not out of Iraq. We have (up to a point) a moral obligation to those innocents that we leave behind.

    On the other hand the president has been a major disappointment in failing to rally support for SS reform, opening up America's vast oil and coal resources. There are 2 trillion barrels of oil in the Green River watershed out West. We have vast resources of oil and gas offshore and under the Great Lakes, to say nothing of Alaska. He signed McCain/Feingold. His position on immigration borders on insanity. The Patriot Act (Dems loved this one too) Our borders and ports need to be secure in a manner that we Americans are satisfied with. Only then should we attend to who comes and goes and how. Those illegals that are here need to be sorted out and invite those who would wish to assimilate in order to make our Country stronger and better. Ship the worthless gang bangers, criminals and those who are here for free social benefits back to their country or origin. What happened to compassionate conservatism? All I see is another Progressive. I don't guess the President can be blamed that most elected Republicans don't have any spine. Federal interference in education is absolutely wrong. Schools should be run at the local level and providing what tools are necessary as they see it in the community. No Federal interference.

    Say what you will, both parties are in control of Statists. That is a fact. The danger is that the Democrats are not only Statists but they are Socialists as well.

    The country rejected the Republicans in the off year election and look what a situation we have. If we elect a Democrat and the Dems control the legislature, kiss your guns goodbye and turn your check over to Washington so that they might fully implement "From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs."
     
  25. orionengnr

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    Great? No.

    Best choice at the time? Yes.

    Disappointment? Yes.

    Do it again? Given the same choices, yes.

    I am officially sick and tired of voting for "the lesser of two evils", though...
     
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