Your View on President Bush

What do you think of President Bush?

  • Great President, Would vote for again.

    Votes: 92 17.5%
  • Great President, No freaking way.

    Votes: 76 14.5%
  • Horrible President, Thank god its over.

    Votes: 357 68.0%

  • Total voters
    525
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corporate capitalism
Problem with that?

peaceable kingdom of plantation capitalism
Problem with that? Whatever that is?

Missionary globalism
Doing it while being on top, all over the world?

He follows the cult of liberation theology
When I think of Bush, I don't think cult. I think of cult more when reading RP posts on this forum than I do when thinking of Bush.
 
Bush is a POS in my opinion. I voted for him in 2000, but Kerry in 2004 just because the thought of Bush makes me sick.

He has lied to the American People and is approval rating proves that he is disliked. The war in Iraq is a travesty to our fighting men and women. He allows torture, he allows illegal search and seizure and takes away from our freedoms with the patriot act.

With the threat of Iran still looming, he scares me even more. I am sure he will want to do something about it, militarily, before January 20th, 2009. I hope we can just ride this tidal wave until it ends and let him go milk cows on his ranch!

Honestly I do not think that I would even shake his hand if I was to meet him > I would rather vomit
 
Lets see what Bush has accomplished:

1. Shredded the Constitution, with the Patriot Act.

2. Abandoned an American City. (New Orleans.)

3. Got us into a disaster in Iraq.

4. Forgotten about Afghanistan, thus destabilizing it.

5. Lied to the American people about WMD's.

6. Destroyed our reputation abroad.

7. Condoned torture, thus making us lose much of our moral authority.

8. Destroyed our Military, by placing them in the middle of a Civil war.

9. Starting a Civil war in Iraq.

10. He has condoned warrant less spying on American Citizen's.

11. He has opened our border's to whoever wants to come.

12. He has spat in the face of millions of legal immigrants, by trying to offer amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.

13. He has destabilized the middle east.

14. By invading Iraq, he has empowered Iran.

15. He has gotten us into trillions of dollars of debt, much of it owed to the Chinese.


His presidency is a disaster, and he is a fool. I never voted for him, and I never would.
 
his support for the amnesty bill did it for me...

I already disliked the fact that he did not use his executive power to allow our troops to fight the war with all the strength (from using hollow point ammo in their service weapons, to allowing them to interrogate anyway they deem necessary, to allowing them go to the 'neighborhood's' they feel necessary to peruse the enemy)

I also disagreed strongly with Bush's policy relating to the quickness and carelessness with which the constitution and legislative power were turned over to corrupt, ideologically unprepared Iraqis

And fact that in Afghanistan they can still decide to put to death (by law apparently) anyone who is not a Muslim is appalling to me.

I do not think you can win the war with Islamofascism by not forcing the separation of Islamic religion from the state affairs of those countries. If we do not, they will still breed islamofascists
 
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corporate capitalism
Problem with that?
Free-market capitalism is the only way to go. Corporatism is not capitalism: it's using government power to secure your business goals. A business that uses government to advance its interests is no better than a Soviet bureaucrat who does the same.

Missionary globalism
Doing it while being on top...
You're thinking "missionary position." Interestingly, you're painting a fairly accurate picture. The problem is that its men he's screwing.

--Len.
 
In the long, terrible reign of King George, this is one of the days when I wish I was into boxing or MMA. A few hours on a speed bag would do me well.
 
The arrogance and hubris this man displays.
Bush has single handedly destroyed the GOP.
Pardoning Scooter...I'd better shut up.

Biker
 
Free-market capitalism is the only way to go. Corporatism is not capitalism: it's using government power to secure your business goals. A business that uses government to advance its interests is no better than a Soviet bureaucrat who does the same.


Corporate capitalism is a form of capitalism where all or most of the means of production are owned by corporations (where individuals own a means of production collectively in tradeable shares as stockholders). As opposed to unincorporated sole proprietorships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_capitalism
 
1. Shredded the Constitution, with the Patriot Act.
I agree, this is unreal that this thing passed. Not only did he sell us out, so did Congress.

2. Abandoned an American City. (New Orleans.)
Non-sense. That's a baseless left wing talking point. More money and federal support flowed into NOLA than ever before. The people who deserve to hang for the pitiful first response are the Gov and Mayor.

3. Got us into a disaster in Iraq.
Yup, agree with you there.

4. Forgotten about Afghanistan, thus destabilizing it.
Don't agree with you there.

5. Lied to the American people about WMD's.
Umm, those lies started in the 90's with Clinton and his cabal. Here's a good starting point for your research: http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml. The world believed they were there because, well, we game them to him and they were there post Gulf War 1.0.

6. Destroyed our reputation abroad.
Another baseless left wing talking point. Our "reputation" was destroyed long before Bush took office. Since when do we govern ourselves based about what the rest of the world wants? If it were up to the UN and the rest of the world, you wouldn't own a firearm.

7. Condoned torture, thus making us lose much of our moral authority.
We should never publicly admit to torture, you're right.

8. Destroyed our Military, by placing them in the middle of a Civil war.
You might want to ask the military how destroyed they feel. Re-enlistments are WAY up... you know, the "destroyed" troops that have been over there several tours.

9. Starting a Civil war in Iraq.
That we did do.

10. He has condoned warrant less spying on American Citizen's.
Yup, and he sucks for it. He's been pissing on the Constitution for years and I'm sick of it.

11. He has opened our border's to whoever wants to come.
Actually, no he hasn't. I don't know where you're getting this stuff...

12. He has spat in the face of millions of legal immigrants, by trying to offer amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.
Yup, I'm glad his immigration reform bill went down the crapper.

13. He has destabilized the middle east.
Not yet, but potentially.

14. By invading Iraq, he has empowered Iran.
Yup, that will happen when you knock out one side in a decades old feud.

15. He has gotten us into trillions of dollars of debt, much of it owed to the Chinese.
That started long before his administration. I would rather owe them money than arm them with miniaturized nukes like Clinton did though.
 
Umm, those lies started in the 90's with Clinton and his cabal.
A rather convenient re-writing of history. "Clinton and his cabal" weren't around for the 2002 inspections, which (correctly) found no WMDs or meaningful WMD developments in Iraq.

But, hey, when in doubt, blame Bill!
 
It helps to read links.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

I said he was spreading lies as well, and he was.

...next.
 
I dislike this administration just as much as the next guy, but I refuse to pin all of our problems on him or excuse Congress. I think we need to kick all of those bums out and place term limits on the House and Senate. We don't need Kennedy's infesting the halls of Congress for decades upon decades.
 
No, he wasn't. By all accounts, everyone did believe that Saddam had some form of weaponry in the mid-to-late '90s. It's also generally accepted that Clinton's air attacks on those facilities destroyed them and effectively ended Saddam's WMD program.

Hence, as I said, the 2002 inspections, which were (you might notice) four years after those quotes, and which found there to be no WMD threat in Iraq.

Now, when did Dubya make WMD claims? Was it before or after the 2002 inspections? Hmmm?
 
Corporate capitalism is a form of capitalism where all or most of the means of production are owned by corporations (where individuals own a means of production collectively in tradeable shares as stockholders). As opposed to unincorporated sole proprietorships.
Correct, but the OP misspoke. Bush supports corporatism, not corporate capitalism.

--Len.
 
In all honesty, a lot of grief and heartaches have happened during his
tenure; other than the Wars in Iraq and Afaganistan. Come on people,
he had to endure the World Trade Center fiasco, a space shuttle crash,
two major hurricanes along the gulf coast. My GOD, what do you expect?
Mr. and Mrs. Bush are honorable people, who have tried to restore some
diginity to the Office Of The President; as well as to The White House.

Its just too bad that we don't have a stong "back-boned" candidate
runn'in in '08.

see hears the thing. If Bush really was a conservative(I know this is saying a lot) The base would not be split and outcomes would have been better.
But being Ted Kennedy's little %$#@% is NOT being Conservative.

No matter the grief and heartaches, consevatives would have follwed him into the gates of hell if it meant sticking up for gun Rights, limited Govt, low spending(if he would have vetoed anything) We even would have follow him to the gates of hell on real Conservatives on the bench (hell they would have earned it...they take the bow and arrows daily being conservative)....but he wanted Meirs....

And this Immigtration thing......My God he is just not on the same planet.
 
You gotta admire a Republican who thinks committing obstruction of justice isn't worth doing any prison time over.

At least Libby wasn't DWI in LA County, he'd do at least 20 days.

I'm proud to never have cast a vote for George Bush, and I can't wait till he is taken far away from the levers of power.
 
I can't help but laught at some of the commentary. I said more than once, and way long back, that Dubya is nowhere near being a conservative. I guess I'll accept "Neo Con", but still...

Look: He's statist. So is Pelosi; so is Obama. He looks to government as the first place to try to solve problems. That's understandable; he's the son of a life-long government employee and was raised under LBJ's Great Society aegis. So he comes up with "No Child Left Behind", and is right in there with Algore for "Free Pills for Old Pharts". And the ideas of the Patriot Act don't disturb him.

I see Dubya as different from the front-running liberals as being a person who truly likes people. He's never come across as somebody who gets mad if others disagree with him. He's not shown that he loves power for power's sake.

I think his border/immigration views are tragically mistaken, but when I look at the people likely to have control over our government during these next several years, Dubya looks pretty harmless.

Art
 
I said more than once, and way long back, that Dubya is nowhere near being a conservative. I guess I'll accept "Neo Con", but still...

Look: He's statist. So is Pelosi; so is Obama. He looks to government as the first place to try to solve problems. That's understandable; he's the son of a life-long government employee and was raised under LBJ's Great Society aegis. So he comes up with "No Child Left Behind", and is right in there with Algore for "Free Pills for Old Pharts". And the ideas of the Patriot Act don't disturb him.

I see Dubya as different from the front-running liberals as being a person who truly likes people. He's never come across as somebody who gets mad if others disagree with him. He's not shown that he loves power for power's sake.

I think his border/immigration views are tragically mistaken, but when I look at the people likely to have control over our government during these next several years, Dubya looks pretty harmless.

Art
 
Bush a statist. Right on. A corporatist. Right on.

Likes people? Well, he likes his own kind, that's indisputable, and those he can proffer "compassion" for. And he seems to have an inordinate and inexplicable fondness for folks like Vicente Fox, Prince Bandar, and Vladimir Putin.

I didn't see much "liking" for the American citizen and taxpayer recently.

Would he be a good guy to live next door to? Maybe, but that doesn't mean I want him anywhere near power.
 
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