You're a small business owner ...

[ShooterMcGavin]

Let say hypothetically you are a small business owner. Would you allow your employees to CCW on the job?

If it were legally done, and did not increase the liability in my insurer's eyes, then Yes.

Would you have any specific criteria outlined prior to carry?

Depends on the industry. If dangers were increased due to carrying (I can't think of any really), there might be some restriction there. If it was in retail, it would need to be concealed. If there were liberals shopping in my store, I don't want business to be driven away, even if they are anti-gun sheeple.

 

[skinnyguy]

I would look at all applicable laws, requirements of other businesses I'd have to be involved with (insurance, etc.), wisdom of my decision based on type of business, the intelligence of the potential CCW holder, and potential customers.

then YES, i would allow employees to carry, with a stipulation, abuse it and lose it, abuse it again and you're gone.

 

[Caimlas]

Personally? Just to stick my tongue out at all those 'no firearms allowed' companies, I'd require my employees to carry.

 

[Black Knight]

Considering that I have been thinking of starting my own Security business I would have to say absolutely yes. My officers would be allowed to carry concealed (with permit) and openly. They may even have access to shotguns and other longarms under certain conditions. I don't believe in placing a uniformed officer potentially in harms way and not be able to protect themselves. A security officer who can't protect himself may or may not be able to protect a client.

 

[thegriz]

range outing

More than that, I would fund a monthly range outing for the staff.

Semi-annual at my firm. It's called stress relief day. It's a paid holiday and attendance is voluntary at the range. It's a small firm so it works pretty good.

Next one is April. We'll be doing full-auto for the 1st time.

 

[aaronrkelly]

I really do own a small business.

I do NOT mind if anyone CCWs while working for me, in fact I encourage it.

 

[RustyShackelford]

CCW use on duty/small business

Depending on where and when the small business is and/or what the employees are doing would dictate if they would really need a concealed weapon(s). In my job I open carry my sidearm but if I was working the front office/counter I'd either carry concealed, use a small frame handgun/pocket carry or keep my .38spl GP-100 next to me by the desk.

I've seen gun shops/ranges where employees had open carry sidearms. In other places I think it depends on the employee. If they go through the proper training, maintain all legal permits/licenses/etc, carry well made weapons and/or act in a mature way then I'd allow them to carry in the business.

Rusty

 

[noops]

I would and do allow it. I would, however, _strongly_ ask that CCW carriers at my company have more than the 4 hour safety class. I'll have to think about that.

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[PointOneSeven]

It's been discussed at my shop. We allow carry but no shooting. We don't have insurance, so if anyone sues us, we're toast.

But when we leave for the day, we are armed in case of a problem dropping cash off in the night box and our trip home. I'm happy. Everyone working here is happy. It works out.

 

[rangermonroe]

I have encouraged employees to carry.

I even bought an employee a handgun for aChristmas bonus, then required him to carry at work. well, strongly encouraged...

 

[Correia]

I am a small business owner.

CCW is mandatory here. However we're a gunshop, so I don't really hire the kind of people who don't carry anyway.

 

[scurtis_34471]

I would allow it unless there was a compelling reason not to (i.e. insurance) that I could not avoid. Even then, I would certainly not ban them from having a gun in their locked car. If insurance required a policy against guns in locked cars, I put it on the books and give it the "don't ask, don't tell" treatment.

 

[General Geoff]

In PA, requiring employees to carry would be construed as a necessity for the job. As such the Lethal Weapons Training Act applies.

 

[FireArmFan]

I wish some of you guys owned the business I work for. We have a specific policy saying we can't carry "weapons or explosives" even if we have a permit for it. And I don't see that policy ever changing.

 

[Plink]

I'd let them carry. My only requirements would be that they keep it to themselves and don't unholster at work. People do stupid things sometimes and I don't want their stupidity injuring someone else. If they shoot themselves at home, well that's their business.

 

[JesseL]

The owner of one of the local car dealerships paid for his employees to go to Gunsite for ccw training after an incident with a nutjob leaping over the service counter and attacking employees.

I found out about this when discussing CCW with one of my coworkers, who's husband works for the dealership.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

. . . And Rifle Academy

In an earlier post I mentioned that it would be tempting to add the words "and Rifle Academy" to any business I founded:

Greebly's Knife & Tool and Rifle Academy

I still kind of like that idea.

 

[glummer]

‘Card

If my insurance carrier specified (and many of them do) that as a condition of my policy, that my employees couldn't carry firearms while on my dime, and that requirement was spelled out in a legally-binding contract which I signed? Then no. No shootin' irons at work.

Do you know what the legal effect would be of ignoring that particular restriction? Would it invalidate ALL your coverage, or only incidents involving employees carrying? I’m thinking of the way car (& other) warranties used to be presented – “if you don’t use our (oil, plugs, whatever) you invalidate the warranty.” When, at least nowadays, it only invalidates coverage for damage resulting from the specific item.

… General Duty Clause. Basically it says that if the employer is aware of a recognized hazard, and does nothing to eliminate that hazard, …

That seems more like urban myth to me. Particularly in a CCW permit state, they would be claiming that the state was licensing “recognized hazards.” And if anyone did that, they would be open to a class-action libel suit. There is also the liability problem in the other direction - if an employee going postal is a "recognized hazard", then restricting carry of defensive weapons is INCREASING the hazard for all the other employees - unless you have elaborate security in place.

 

[Tokugawa]

Are you kidding? I would buy them guns for bonuses!

 

[nramember2]

I am a small business owner. I have actually paid for a couple of employees to attend the CCW class.

 

[Hogfan1911]

I am a small business owner. I do allow my employees (me!) to carry. Some of the businesses I contract out to might not like it, but what they don't know won't hurt 'em. It's already saved my butt once, as I think I described in one of the "have u ever had to draw for real" threads. Oh, yeah, my wife's also an employee, officially my secretary (I'm sleeping with my secretary! ). Guess she can carry around the office/house if she wants.....